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D_M 04.11.19 03:19 am

Reflections on pvp necromancer (Diablo 2)

Good day to all! Decided to swing a bone necromancer, but had questions. A few years ago inspired by this guide bd_sm[TDPG]: http://www.rubattle.net/diablo2/guides/2953/. Immediately say, that NCR will marouelli and therefore require adjustments. So, questions:
1. To download under the 75% block or not? In fact, the unit only needed against the AIOC and the barbarians, well, maybe even assasine. Isn't it better to restrict ourselves only others, but to throw the stats in Vita? Dial %dr with eni+coa(ber ber) or eni+ss (again, without block, but then the question set by FCR). Or any unit with the Homa and the head of SOA. Indeed, in addition to others, will still Beaune armor.
2. When the unit it is advisable to insert shael in the SS (in the unit)?
3. Figure 56 FHR (which gives us 7 of the frames, as 86 sorci at it) enough or should I get the 6 frames (86 FHR)?
4. Throw whether units in Golem mastery and the away team resist?
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bd_sm[TDPG] 04.11.19

D_M
1. To download under the 75% block or not?
Completely depends on your purposes. If you want to make necro against all that lives in the mud and the meat — rock. If you want to play at the foreign rules from which the heat of the young blood in this thread — not to download but not to play PG then: there hardly gather like-minded people with this approach and be the black sheep like mentioned Nobatia. If you want some serious duels, the MB makes sense to shake a few necro under different opponents who block someone without.
The unit generally imbaba topic, so the limit in all sorts of funny foreign leagues, but in reality local pvp balance it is very useful against classes with isdamaged.
If the goal is tournaments, you can't say anything specific: the outcome of the tournament depends heavily on the classes involved, and even more from Rucastle participants. If there is some sorce, then Dex for the block would be an anchor, if more pizzamakers, it will be the decisive feature.
2. When the unit it is advisable to insert shael in the SS (in the unit)?
block rate is a very important thing. Appropriate.
3. Figure 56 FHR (which gives us 7 of the frames, as 86 sorci at it) enough or should I get the 6 frames (86 FHR)?
The feasibility depends on the enemy as expected and the threat from him stunlock. Against druid it is vital, against the beaver - it is very important against the hammer - it depends on whether the character is experiencing one hammer, and so on.
4. Throw whether units in Golem mastery and the away team resist?
For necro every day — to throw, as with all summoned by the unit. The rest - depends on the purpose. In Golem mastery can not throw, because mastery depends on the speed of the Golem. Quick Golem - is not always helpful.

If the goal is to throw chotko show-off, to be toxic polcom, and to teach all to live — you can listen to the sour cream, he understands this.

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D_M 04.11.19

bd_sm[TDPG]
On the block liked the response of sour cream for Firka, will with belongings to gain about 50% block, but will full Vita. About FHR asked as Sorka normal lives with 86 FHR and following the threshold she doesn't usually take, I thought necro is also 7 frames ride).
add: necr only for pvp, swinging with andala in the throne of another character)

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bd_sm[TDPG] 04.11.19

D_M
Though it depends heavily on taste preferences, but for me, as some opponents easier to disassemble a close, and there's all these subtle frames becomes critical. If you play from spam, it is best to consider options for increased pools of mana/HP.

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Smetanka dlya firka 04.11.19

bd_sm[TDPG]
the last time you pvp on ng played? To show how killing anyone without a block?
bd_sm[TDPG] wrote:
If you play from spam
The question above is removed.
bd_sm[TDPG] wrote:
4. Throw whether units in Golem mastery and the away team resist?
For necro every day — to throw, as with all summoned by the unit. The rest - depends on the purpose. In Golem mastery can not throw, because mastery depends on the speed of the Golem. Quick Golem - is not always helpful.
That is, the amount of HP and robust from the ESTs that can be pumped for free with nothing to lose is not important?
How do you against traps, bow AMCI and all the other characters except Golem can eat a bunch of damage playing against spam?

You are there in 2010 Nuba mV not yuzali and MB do not know, but they give 20 free skill. Although probably played against spam, there is no FHR is not needed, not resist anything, fly hedgehogs are spam with insight on the swap - the opponent he will die once. The same hammer and marathons to spam hammers.

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firkax 04.11.19

D_M wrote:
On the block liked the response of sour cream for Firka, will with belongings to collect about 50% of the block
don't do this nonsense
75 unit 2 times better than 50 of the block and HP you will save at least 20%

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T-Fox 04.11.19

The unit is a good topic, but 2200 HP at the fair too. 2K need to withstand powerful blizz, 2200 preferably against fire 95 EU(case in FHR), 2100 - to hold a hammer. etc

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Smetanka dlya firka 04.11.19

D_M
In order to decide how much FHR you need, you need to clearly understand the mechanics and what the FHR rate does really. But in the case of Bonera it doesn't matter, because he has very low HP and it always breaks extremely low speed, so there always needs to maximize the value.

For example, in some duels where the big damage which is 100% drives FHR you even 86фхр going to rarely get out of the FHR animation and will die with high probability if the first word damage, in the same NVN.

With great damage dealt, there max FHR life is necessary just to even come out of the animation. Let's deal with a little damage on the example of some EU corki.
Yes, she has small damage and to drive in FHR it will be rare, but in the moment when you will go into FHR you can't attack, therefore the size it in you will release more spells as paruelo 2-3 with 86, if Bray as a couple to add.

What we have in the end we saved FHR on this duel and got the profit in the condition that there kaki-UTB 50-100 HP, but instead lost two volleys from SPIRA in exchange, it's about 2K for Eske cf bug. A very significant loss.

Think insights is obvious that profit in a small HP generally doesn't, unless you the most HP not enough to survive the extra hammer from the hammer, but such situations are one in a million.

With Bonera all just wear 86 and receive the maximum profit from all the duels where you do not use the unit.
With the Persians where 5-8K HP more and more difficult, there is the ideal for every duel, even for each opponent you can choose the desired FHR. And in some cases there are tricks when you can wear at all 0фхр because the animations from attacks from the enemy will not do.

It's all by the way it relates to the mechanics of GHGs on foreign servers all namogo easier in mind imbovosti wsg.


I hope you have no more questions on FHR.

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Smetanka dlya firka 04.11.19

firkax wrote:
don't do this nonsense
75 unit 2 times better than 50 of the block and HP you will save at least 20%
Two trillion is also two times better than one trillion, but a trillion is still a trillion times more than 1.

It is such odds in the match Bonera with a block and BA subagency marvalee against the physical damageof.

But the profit of the saving of stats which go into HP is much more useful, silly firk.

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Smetanka dlya firka 04.11.19

T-Fox
2500 need to survive 1 without Bo hammer, any hammer. That's how much I gathered on your boner, and would never have collected if rocked useless Dex. But firk thinks otherwise, the best thing for him to kill even if AIOC head-on, and drain all the rest, than win all.

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bd_sm[TDPG] 04.11.19

Sour cream for Firka
Dear, you're talking about stuff that you know, and the part about what is simply not aware. For this reason, the discussion with you would be extremely difficult, if not impossible. In particular I would like to start with raised voices. I suggest you comment on the build and tactics targeted and essentially, not to get personal, and not to make assumptions about other people's play styles, you will be wrong and will continue to be wrong, simply because they do not know.

D_M
50% of the unit have the right to life, but pirk right that 75% against the physicists is another story

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Smetanka dlya firka 04.11.19

bd_sm[TDPG]
bd_sm[TDPG] wrote:
Dear, you're talking about stuff that you know, and the part about what is simply not aware
I will be glad to hear more about it, if it's not the secrets of universal scale.

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bd_sm[TDPG] 04.11.19

Sour cream for Firka
for example, a heated debate about marowak will bring a huge smile from those who know about the state of things over time

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Smetanka dlya firka 04.11.19

bd_sm[TDPG] wrote:
for example, a heated debate about marowak will bring a huge smile from those who know about the state of things over time
Still it would be interesting to hear something on the case, and not this.
What is there is it? All the fathers were aware of the mV but kept a closely guarded secret? I personally do not recall any other situation.

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bd_sm[TDPG] 04.11.19

Sour cream for Firka
about the other situation you don't know, that's the point, which is so fun FIRC in your dispute

Yes, it's not fair that there are things that have not been for some time known publicly that there are those that are not known so far. Yes, it's not fair that the one who believes that the smartest and knows everything will look funny. Yes, it's not fair that some of these things you can not say.

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Smetanka dlya firka 04.11.19

bd_sm[TDPG] wrote:
about the other situation you don't know, that's the point, which is so fun FIRC in your dispute
Probably still is some kind of gem, times fact, no one wrote.

bd_sm[TDPG] wrote:
Yes, it's not fair that there are things that have not been for some time known publicly that there are those that are not known until now
Yes, everything is much easier. There is no things. There is a well known bug with charges which big successful parikshan developer, but unfortunately that patch is very unfortunate that the admin denies and says that everything in it was made for simplification.
And he just ignored it and innovations and bugfixes. And ignored bugs with incorrect display of numbers in the stats, which I can fix in the alternative client.

Simply put - there is no admin conspiracy against players with endless secrets is simply laziness something to fix.

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bd_sm[TDPG] 04.11.19

Sour cream for Firka
Interesting hypothesis, it is a pity that wrong. I think I'll stop there. Good luck in your endeavors :)

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Smetanka dlya firka 04.11.19

bd_sm[TDPG]
As there is the youth currently adopted?
Merged? clear.

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firkax 04.11.19

Sour cream for Firka wrote:
Merged? clear.
you merged with my consent to conduct pvp with you:

Sour cream for Firka wrote:
Show me a pvp skill FERC
firkax wrote:
go pvp in fornication Moore no cans but you always merge.
then you pretended that nothing happened



Separately comment it times Dober so impudent your peek-Ponty
Sour cream for Firka wrote:
in 2010, the Nuba mV not yuzali
Dober himself about mV learned only 2 years ago, paying a lot of runes for it. Prior to that, he also didn't use them. In this context, his boast about do not know newbies look especially fun.

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Sweety_Mustard 04.11.19

In the spring of ' 18 by the way asked on the forum about the charges - has answered not at once and uncertainly. And that is the example marrowalk - what about the other charges knowledge was not at all. Most importantly, why asked - this topic is flashed then or in the forum or in chat. That is, 17-18 year - ' s, around the time this pgny bug became known to some players.

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minovalo 04.11.19

Sweety_Mustard wrote:
And that is the example marrowalk - what about the other charges knowledge was not at all.
Here's how. After reading and considering patchnotes PG more or less conserved in the 1.12 area (with some innovation), most believed this bagovic long povyshennoi (or sanifinas to whatever you like). But the secrecy of the administrator associates have prompted some not to trust, but verify. Moreover, it is desirable to do this before creating each changesavannah build BGG. And live.