Friends with a dark past
In this thread, we will talk about the benefits / harms of friends and acquaintances with a dark past, as well as the advisability of establishing such acquaintances. Let's talk about people connected in one way or another with the criminal world: thieves in law, criminals, criminals, leaning back and other people with sins behind their backs.It's not a secret for anyone that now there are practically no people with a wide circle of acquaintances, among whom (among friends) there would be no people who were not sitting or clean before the law. Almost everyone has at least one friend or just an acquaintance who has committed crimes in the past or was imprisoned in high security colonies. Friend-ex-prisoner - now you will see so few people. Vice versa.
It is very annoying to hear when some moralist speaks badly of people who were sitting just because they were sitting. Or about thieves in law. The only reason for hatred towards such a person is that he has committed a crime, he achieves goals by illegal means, and so on. Everything. At the same time, he does not care at all what kind of person he is, as a person and what is on his mind. Judging a person by a couple of actions is a delusion if you are not personally familiar with him. Many people make mistakes and change, this is not at all a reason to offend a person just because of any one mistake. You can end up badly if you allow yourself to say this in the wrong place at the wrong time.
I believe that any kind of acquaintance is needed. Acquaintances among criminals and those who were in prison in some way can be useful to an ordinary person, since they imply very useful connections that can be used (provided that they are friendly or friendly). So I do not advise putting an end to a person right away just because of his dark past (or even the present). All sin.
For example, in our company we have a moored Zinovy, an adult man over thirty years ago, he leaned back 4.5 years ago, went to the zone, for murder, an attack on garbage, all the cases. The man is very serious and dangerous, in the zone the roof has completely moved down, if you look at him crookedly, he can kill in no time, I guarantee. Nevertheless, you ask, why the hell did such friends or acquaintances surrender? Stupid question. Different acquaintances are needed, this is their benefit. The power of dating is in diversity and reliable dating should be in different areas, even in crime. If you have any problems in this area, who will help you out? Do you know a doctor? Or a physicist you know? I doubt.
Returning to the moose. Despite all of the above, all my sidekicks respect him and always support him. A really cool guy, very reliable in himself, will always help out, always advise and help. If there is some kind of fight or problem, he will definitely intervene and help. It is always more fun and interesting with him in the company, he tells life stories, the man went through the school of life, albeit severe, knows a lot, has seen a lot. By the way, he also has a family, quite normal, except that his wife hangs on him because of alcohol, that he drinks every day, but he loves her, he never said a crooked word to her, did not hit her. But strangers should be careful with him.
Why am I? I mean that dating should be whatever you want, if it is useful. You should not disown a person just because he is a former criminal. Indeed, in life, he can turn out to be a very reliable and cool friend, whom you can rely on in case of trouble. Do not think narrow-mindedly, comrade moralists. No one is immune from crime and prison. I do not encourage crime and going to the zone, as a school of life, but I do not condemn it either, since everything happens in life.
I have a few questions for you, dear forum users.
1. Are there such people in your circle of acquaintances?
2. If so, how many and how close are your relationships (purely friends, or close friends, or maybe relatives)? What do you do with them?
3. If not, why not? Do you deliberately avoid such people, or do you have one intelligentsia in your circle?
4. What are the pros and cons of meeting similar people and maintaining friendly relations with them?
Gomon the Elder, but what if the one who served in the zone was a rooster down? He won't confess.
Did you think with your box for a long time before asking such questions? Wipe the question and do not disgrace yourself, petty one.
I do not judge people only by the labels "imprisoned", "criminal", etc. ...
There are no prisoners in my circle, but the truth is that people go to jail, mostly out of stupidity. For example, he had a fight with someone drunk and accidentally killed him. Or your company decided to rob a taxi driver, and you were there and did nothing, and you are attracted for complicity. Nafig then go there? Some deliberately want to get there again and again - even more stupid.
So, if a seated person appears in my circle, it is a sign for me that he is of a narrow mind. However, he has every chance to change this opinion.
If a person was imprisoned for the fact that a sidekick was framed well, or stole that thread, or maybe he killed someone out of revenge for loved ones, then I normally treat him as an ordinary person. If a person was imprisoned for pedophilia, rape, the sale of child porn and other similar cases, then he personally would shoot them.
Gomon the Elder
1. No.
2. See the 1st point.
3. We did not meet so simply.
4. They can solve or help solve certain problems that our "valiant" police refuses to solve, although they are obliged to. You need to hammer the thought into their heads that they owe you, then they will be more useful. And, as a rule, many of these people "with a dark past" have good connections that can come in handy.
I’m such a cynic.
Tell me who your friends are, and I'll tell you who you are.
I have a natural aversion to such people, and I will never have thieves, murderers and rapists as my friends.
The theme is filled with the harshness of life and tough guys. Local intellectuals don't like this.
1. I sat myself. Only for a long time.
2. I don’t know any more.
3.Rukalitso. I have different friends. A little but
real.
4. None.
I've had enough jail time, and I'm not going to get into it anymore.
Funny topic, I had to laugh out loud. "I tell you, you need any acquaintances!" xD
Speak up. Do you, Gaumont, do not know that thieves on the righteous path, in principle, will not. And here it is not a matter of the stamps that are put on them, but in themselves. They deliberately choose the path of criminal life and do not provide for other ways of existence. In the zone, you can calmly sit in the peasants and leave only with a mark on a piece of paper.
At the same time, I agree that a thief's career is not an obstacle for sincere friendship, and if a spiritual prisoner turned up for me or my old friend served time, the very fact of a criminal record would not play any role. But I suppose this option only if I saw in him a real comrade, and in this case it is inappropriate to think about his connections and other selfish goals.
But I, nevertheless, have no idea where and how I can make friends with an authoritative prisoner (I will not count the usual one who has reeled off like that) ...
1. Are there such people in your circle of acquaintances? If not, why not? Do you deliberately avoid such people, or do you have one intelligentsia in your circle?
I do not specifically avoid it. I consider only repeat offenders finished, I would vote with both hands "for", for the death penalty for repeat offenders of any medium-grave crime. As for the people who served there for the economy, or something else easy, then if I have something to talk about with them, and they behave not like "boys from the district", but like adults, sniffing culture, then there is no negative sides.
4. What are the pros and cons of meeting similar people and maintaining friendly relations with them?
A rhetorical question. If I meet someone who is very useful, then I will unsubscribe))) :)
I know such, but I do not conduct business or anything else. I also know the exact opposite of such. We must have neutrality with all strata of society.
Gomon the Elder
1 - there are a couple of people
3 - does not impose in any way
4 - I did not receive any dividends from this, as well as problems,
unless a couple of times the wife of one of them asked to bring the parcels to the pre-trial detention center by car.
I have no acquaintances of repeat offenders. People - my acquaintances, who have served time, sincerely do not want to go there anymore, let's say - "tied up".
In my life, I crossed paths with men with a serious criminal past a couple of times, talked about life. People are like people. They have peculiar manners and speech, a vision of life. I will not say that I am delighted with communicating with them, but in general they are normal people.
According to SABZHU:
1) And who does not have them in the vastness of our glorious Motherland?
2) People are different, you can't describe all of them with one phrase. In any case, I will not refuse to help a friend, no matter how much he has a walker.
3) I doubt that someone with a clear conscience will give an affirmative answer to this question.
4) The pros and cons are the same as from all other friends. Walking does not affect this.
In general, gentlemen, I would like to remind you of a good Russian proverb - one doesn’t exclude money from a bag and a prison. And by the way, how many of those present here use Linux? Well, in general, you understand me ...
Actually, you wrote everything correctly. You should not judge a person for their actions. Perhaps he simply had no choice, and he himself is a good person
. 1. Yes, I have one friend. He went to jail for a thief. But I do not blame him, everyone lives as they can. Moreover, he is a very strong and reliable person. His friends are the same.
2. The relationship is pretty good, friendly. If we help each other. He has a very broad outlook, and he is not afraid to tell anyone what he thinks about this person.
3. I do not avoid people who have been in prison or are involved in crime. She can give useful advice on life and help in a difficult situation. But still I try to stay away from strangers.
4. Of course there are pluses, as I said, this is a help. It doesn't matter what you got into, they can help you, for you, without selfishness. I see only good in my friends, especially those who have opened up to me, which means that he trusts me, and I will use it, never. And whether they were sitting or not, this is all the past. Of course, some of the prisoners do not change and the majority again pushes on crimes, but still gives them some lessons.
Moreover, many were sitting just like that. The confession was knocked out with torture.