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Vinni-Pukh 11.11.21 10:24 pm

Lady of Time and Space (The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt)

Hello to all fans and just fans of The Witcher. During the game, I had 1 question. During the campaign of Geralt from Rivia and Avallak'ha, Avallak'ha told the Witcher that he moves between worlds only through portals, he does not have such a gift as Ciri, for only the elder blood possesses such a gift. But during the game, it was clear that not only she has such a gift. For example, Caranthir, but this is understandable, Avallak'ha crossed him from many elves who ruled over time and space. But for example, in battle, Imlerich moved just as quickly. + Eredin. So they also have older blood? Or how do they move quickly there?
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Mantykora 11.11.21

Vinni-Pukh The
Riders of the Wild Hunt moved in battle - in the same time and space. And Ciri, for example, fled from Novigrad in front of the guards to another space - Skellige. Estimate the distances.

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Ivanych 11.11.21

Vinni-Pukh
Uh-uh .... Can you read Sapkovsky's books, or what? Too tricky topic for a gaming forum.

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Albert De Hunter 11.11.21

Vinni-Pukh
Well, how can I tell you ... they float over small distances ... and only in one space ... and only themselves ... But Tsirla ... She can both in space and in time ... plus at any distance ...
So somehow) plus take others with you)

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Lyakseich 11.11.21

the elder blood is undoubtedly, but Ciri is the most powerful of all because she is the ancestor of Falka, well, her genetics developed like that)) she can move in space and time without portals, and the rest only through open portals

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Albert De Hunter 11.11.21

Ivanych
Agree)))

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Vinni-Pukh 11.11.21

Albert Shcherbakov,
they are hovering over short distances ...
And how do they sharply make raids then?
Mantykora
This is understandable, if Avallac'h crossed exactly those elves who were the lords of time and space, as a result he received Caranthira. It turns out that the elder blood flows in him, right? Why did you have to wet Ciri there, if there is an elf at hand in which this senior blood flows?

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Angelica04 11.11.21

For that matter, Alvin (the master) had senior blood. He could have been used. Plus, in one of the endings, Geralt allowed the Hunt to take him. In general, playing the witcher gives the impression that the first part was made by another company with a different plot. For the second and even more so for the third part, it has very little in common, both in terms of plot and characters.

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killerBD1 11.11.21

Vinni-Pukh
Caranthir has no elder blood, Avallac'h was looking for something very close to the gene of the elder blood in elves and if he found it, he crossed them, plus the gene of older blood only works in women along the line of Lara Doren. They did their raids mainly not physically, but at the expense of avatars, i.e. instead of themselves, they sent their avatars, which is less costly and much more feasible, in the 3rd part they appeared in person only because Ciri appeared.

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killerBD1 11.11.21

Angelica04
Alvin did not have senior blood, he was the Source, which is a little different, plus for the whole game they never said that he had senior blood.

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DrMors 11.11.21

Vinni-Pukh
Caranthir could not bear all the people of Aen Elle, unlike Ciri

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Vinni-Pukh 11.11.21

killerBD1
Guys can't control time and space, it's clear.

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Vinni-Pukh 11.11.21

[aVm] Mors
Caranthir could not bear all the people of Aen Elle, unlike Ciri.
So they wanted to kill her, don't they need her alive for that?

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killerBD1 11.11.21

Vinni-Pukh
To be honest, read the books, everything is described there why everyone needs Ciri

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Dr.Zoomer 11.11.21

I read the comments and concluded: "The overwhelming majority did not read the saga." And if you have read, milsdari, then obviously without delving into it. Alvin is just a source, he did not have the power of Ciri. Ciri is the child of Lara Doren, just the same elder blood that inherited the gene of Lara, which manifested itself through generations only in women of the Rhianon clan, first in Paveta (mother of Cyril), then it increased in Cyril, the further generations there are, the stronger the manifestations of this gene. Caranthir is simply a product of selection in which talented elves were mixed, he cannot, like Ciri, calmly fly between worlds while carrying huge detachments with him, he is weaker. Ciri, in the final of the Witcher 3, made the pairing of the spheres. So instead of just accusing the game of being illogical, it would be better to try to READ.

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Dr.Zoomer 11.11.21

Vinni-Pukh
You can't even play carefully, sir. They did not want to kill her, but to use her. The warlike race Aen Elle used to move around the worlds and conquer them, and then they lost this opportunity. To resume the process of conquering worlds, you need Ciri, which can send not small detachments, but armies.

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JOKERIVAN 11.11.21

Lyakseich
Firstly, she is not an ancestor, but a descendant
Secondly, not Falki, but Larra Dorren
Dr. Zoomer
You yourself probably did not read carefully, they did not need Ciri to open portals, they needed her child (he would probably also open the notorious portals , but that's another story), whom she was to conceive from King Auberon. After giving birth, Ciri should have been released on all four sides, but the king was killed by Eredin, who was not going to let anyone go ...

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Vinni-Pukh 11.11.21

Dr. Zoomer
You can't even play carefully, sir.
First, with the fight between Geralt and Eredin, Eredin said that he wanted to kill her painlessly, and now he would kill Geralt and torture her. Secondly, during the quarrel between Ciri and (I do not remember Eridan's right hand), they say he himself advised how best to kill Ciri.

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Marksman1231 11.11.21

Vinni-Pukh
Well, it is clear that he was not going to let her go. Eredin would use Ciri to take over other worlds and then kill her.

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Vinni-Pukh 11.11.21

Thanks for explaining

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Wild rider 11.11.21

killerBD1
Alvin has elder blood. In his letter he says about this (in the bookstore of Novigrad you can find)

Vinni-Pukh
"Men cannot rule over time and space, it is clear."
In the book, Ciri, too, could control teleportation only within the same world. Jumping through time and into parallel worlds she obtained randomly, i.e. the jumps themselves, of course, she controlled, but where she would get - she did not know.
Alvin reliably moved once to the past, but it happened to him by accident.

Dr. Zoomer
"Lara's gene, which manifested itself through generations only in women of the Rhianon clan"
If this is so, then the game developers either changed the concept of the Elder Blood, or simply did not care about the difference between the Source and the carrier of the gene.
However, Alvin could very well have been a descendant of Ciri. Yes, and could not be, and it is, if he has the Elder Blood.

"Ciri, on the other hand, in the Witcher 3 finale, paired the spheres."
That's right, it ties in well with the book. And all the elves left through the portal.

"Caranthir is just a work of selection in which talented elves were mixed, he cannot, like Ciri, calmly fly between worlds while carrying huge detachments with him, he is weaker."
Well, he could not constantly move between worlds, of course. Especially through time. But he moved large detachments and a drakkar. (Kaer Morhen, Undvik)

JOKERIVAN
"You yourself probably didn't read carefully, they didn't need Ciri to open portals, they needed her child."
By the way, yes. Someone wanted to get only Ciri, someone her child, and someone even her placenta instead of a child.

Anyone who is in the subject
An interesting situation turns out. If you still try to logically connect the book series and the game, then the prophecy about the Destroyer and the White Cold becomes ambiguous due to the variability of the future. Those. the savior could be Alvin - a descendant of Ciri, but he used not the best methods to save the dying world, for which he paid. Or maybe Ciri. And so it happened: she stopped the rapidly advancing White Cold. What would not have changed in any case: White Cold will still destroy the world inhabited by people. The book tells about a gradual cooling, i.e. Ciri only delayed the Hour of the End (it is not told how exactly) by 400-500 years.
Why am I talking about the variability of the future? This moment is perfectly described in the book: if anyone remembers, Ciri saw a frozen Geralt in visions, but with her actions and actions Nimue (who lived in the future, ~ 150 years after Geralt's death) changed the fate of the witcher. That's how interesting it turned out in the plot.

Now about the prophecy. There is such a moment: Only those who follow the Swallow will survive. The swallow is a symbol of spring, a deliverer. She will open forbidden doors, show the way of salvation. ...
And here is some infa slipped in a conversation between Nimue and Kondwiramursa:
"- And the portrait of Francesca Findabair written by the elves, which is exhibited in the Hungarian Pinakothek?
- Fake. When the Doors were opened and the elves left, they took with them or destroyed all the works of art and did not leave a single picture "
Such things! That is, in the game, Ciri opened the portal between the worlds on Undvik. And for a hundred years, the oppressed elves left the dying world of people through this portal. And already in the days of Nimue they are gone.

Angelica04
There is such, 1 part stands a little apart. For example, it is logically difficult to explain the demand of the Wild Hunt to give Alvin's soul, and kill him. Well, connect it with the plot. Parts 2 and 3.