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-SK.art- 21.11.21 10:37 pm

Assembling a computer from 40,000 v.4

In this thread, we select configurations of components in the price range of 40,000 rubles and above

Requirements:

1) We inform the available budget.
2) We indicate the link to the price list of the store, where we intend to make a purchase, indicate the city.
3) In your message, be sure to indicate what exactly you intend to buy (system unit, monitor, peripherals, etc.)

If the requirements are not met, the message will be ignored / deleted

ps: flood, offtopic and other violations will be punished in accordance with the Forum Rules

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hrdCore 21.11.21

Solovat
The minimum decent option for this configuration is the FSP 450PNR. I would not take the Q-Dion QD450.

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Solidar 21.11.21

hrdCore
and not decent? and what is the difference then?

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helio 21.11.21

Solovat
take it on skylake then

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hrdCore 21.11.21

Solovat
Compared to Q-Dion QD450, the FSP 450PNR has a higher level of circuitry and, accordingly, better electrical parameters. At what price is the FSP 450PNR available (and is it available)?
Since when choosing a power supply, the price / parameters ratio is also important.

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hrdCore 21.11.21

Solovat
As for the configuration itself, or rather about the optimality, it is difficult to suggest more concretely without seeing the assortment and prices of that store.
If so, in general, then it is quite normal. MP is an ordinary budget (but I would take it on the B85 chipset - but as I said - I don't know the assortment and prices of the store).
As for "the power supply unit did not burn out and, in principle, there were no problems with it",
then here it did not burn out, it didn’t burn out. More important are the components that are connected to the power supply unit.
For example, an
HDD crashed to the spoiler of one user. He replaced it and after a while (not several days) this HDD also fails.
After that, the user with the words "which hdd would you advise more reliable? And then two got figs" turned to me.
But the reason was not in the HDD, but in the power supply unit. Although initially the user had no complaints about the PSU. He just had complaints about the HDD.

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Solidar 21.11.21

In general, in the end I chose such a config, I already ordered it, I made an advance payment, I'm waiting for the salary and the delivery.
- i5 4460 Haswell refresh OEM (3.2GHz, 6MB, socket 1150) --- 16.200rub
- PALIT geforce GTX960 OC 2gb 128 bit --- 18.160rub
- qumo ddr3 dimm 8gb (pc3-12800) 1600mgz memory (2pcs) - - 6.900rub
- cooler intel original (al) (pwm) fan --- 450rub
- gigabyte ga-p85-d3 rtl --- 6300rub
- 1tb seagate barracuda 7200, 12 (serail ata III, 7200rpm, 64mb buffer) - -4500 rubles
- case miditower aerocool v3x advanced black edition, atx, 500w --- 5200 rubles
total: 57.5 thousand rubles. with a penny.

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hrdCore 21.11.21

A bit dull
case miditower aerocool v3x advanced black edition, atx, 500w - is it with a built-in power supply?

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Lisstoman 21.11.21

Solovat
7 pieces for 8GB ddr3?

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Solidar 21.11.21

hrdCore
yes
Lisstoman
for two 7 boards

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Anton Yanaev 21.11.21

Budget 50k.
matrix12.ru Yoshkar-ola is a
system unit for games, so that it is of good quality. I would like to play the battlefront and GTA. I don't understand computers (Help please

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Belomorkanal 21.11.21

Anton Yanaev
If there is another 10k, then you can assemble with the younger i5 4th generation and GTX970, such an assembly will justify itself better in terms of money. And the assembly for 50k will turn out to be much weaker, the performance will be end-to-end for modern games, and there is no talk of future games at all. You understand that the prices for iron are inadequate.
What do you think?

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Anton Yanaev 21.11.21

Belomorkanal
Why not ?!) I will consider all the options

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Belomorkanal 21.11.21

Anton Yanaev
In this store the prices are normal, but the assortment is disgusting. Since I did not find a normal video card, operatives and cases there, I will have to buy them in another store, for example, in the DNS, or in some other store if the prices are lower.
Don't forget to choose your city.
We buy in the Matrix
http://matrix12.ru/goods/item/55266/
http://matrix12.ru/goods/item/67903/ http://matrix12.ru/goods/item/70349/
http: // matrix12. ru / goods / item / 28910 /
http://matrix12.ru/goods/item/68569/
We buy in DNS http://www.dns-shop.ru/product/d1bafa1e81a63361/videokarta-inno3d-geforce-gtx-970- herculez-x2-n97v-1sdn-m5dsx /
http://www.dns-shop.ru/product/30dec636d8de3361/operativnaa-pamat-crucial-ballistix-sport-vlp-bls8g3d1609es2lx0ceu-8-gb/#description
http://www.dns-shop.ru/product/ 70c3cff9e8178499 / korpus-gigabyte-gz-g1 / # opinion
Why exactly one 8GB strip, and not two 4GB ones? Due to the fact that in the near future you will need to buy another one of the same and you will have 16GB in high-speed 2-channel mode.
The case does not have USB 3.0 connectors, only USB 2.0, but it is very well ventilated and, in general, is very well made for its 3K. If you don't like the design and / or need USB 3.0, then choose from the more expensive options yourself, preferably with 2 fans on the front panel.
As a result, we get a completely sane assembly for 60K, with the potential for an upgrade in the form of expanding RAM to dual-channel 16GB and installing an SSD under Windows.
And for 50k, the assembly will be pretty weak, the video card would most likely be a GTX 960 with 2GB of video memory, which is already close enough for high graphics settings without SSAA anti-aliasing, there is no talk about future games at all.

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MunchkiN 616 21.11.21

actually looked at this
matrix12.ru Yoshkar-ola
Spoiler Video card Asus GTX970-DCMoC-4GD5
Processor AMD FX-8350 X8
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3P

Cooler Zalman CNPS11X Performa
Power supply FSP SPI PRO 700W
RAM SO- DDR3 1600 DIMM 8Gb

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2 614 rubles 5 228 rubles
Case Zalman R1
Hard disk Western Digital WD10EZEX 1 TB
Cost excluding delivery: 65 675 rubles
neither 50 nor 60 mice did not fit and so ran past wax.
Moreover, I did not check whether the card will fit into the case and the pitch does not have a wildcard.
if there is an old pitch available, it is not worth upgrading from 0 now, especially with such a budget. how much better allows you to replace the video card and power supply platform if necessary.

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Belomorkanal 21.11.21

MunchkiN 616
Strange. I met exactly 60k and the assembly on four Intel cores. True, in two different stores. And you have 65k on AMD. Did you calculate something wrong? And yes, the only GTX970 in the store is a hot stump for mATX systems, so it's better to buy a normal one in another store. The operative is also the only one for 8GB / bar and also does not inspire confidence.

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MunchkiN 616 21.11.21

Belomorkanal
I have 2 memory and I was not mistaken that I collected it in a basket, and AMD and Intel processors cost the same plus for AMD with the prospect of a little overclocking, it turned out to be more expensive because of the rest of the kit. purely for the sake of the fact that in one store
and so the choice of course in the store is bad especially the video card.
and u5 without the possibility of overclocking, I would have thought about taking it or not, in any case, one-way pitch as my personal opinion.

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Belomorkanal 21.11.21

MunchkiN 616
I think that the 4460 will look more profitable in games than the slightly overclocked 8300. For games, the "size" (number of transistors / core) of cores is more important than their number, don't you agree? And the 4460 can also be overclocked a little on the bus, I'm sure that four phases are enough for this, since for the sake of sports interest I overclocked a friend's 3570 to 4.2 GHz on the bus on a cheap mATX mother with four phases, the power transistors of which are not even covered with radiators and everything worked stable for several days in a row.

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MunchkiN 616 21.11.21

The Belomorkanal
there is 8350 and there is no other, but this is 4 GHz (and not 3.3) with maneuvers for another half GHz and the actual torn acceleration of the beads and NT.
the principle of operation of fx is inherently closer to the trailer u7. performance only determines the performance of the cache and work with Intel instructions.
What is better for gambling, I don’t know, but the fact that I’m paying extra money for transistors in the graphics core, which will intercept the work of some programs, doesn’t give me peace of mind.
plus it has long been known that in a number of modern games there are few and 5, and in 4 fail, as it turned out, it does not reveal 970 at all.Therefore, I would seriously bet on multithread, especially as I found out, for example, ye4 is excellent in multithread,
but how many pitch is there and opinions
what is profitable what is not no difference, all the same, both processors are already pulling without a performance margin. I even think they will not master the next map of the level 980 ruler. Therefore, the pitch is now already for 60 pieces disposable. and who is right, time will tell.

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Belomorkanal 21.11.21

MunchkiN 616
As a person who has assembled two PCs to work with the premier (video editing and rendering), on 8 nuclear AMD, I assure you that they are better than Intel's i5 only in this matter, since such programs boldly use several threads. As for games, they run almost in single-threaded mode, which is why thick Intel cores are loaded with more processor time, since there is less "fiddling" with the cache and the bus. That is why in the overwhelming majority of games 8 small, not overclocked cores are much inferior to overclocked 4 larger cores, and all game tests confirm this.
And about the graphics core, I agree, in general - a useless overpayment, which cannot be avoided in any way, if only to buy a xeon ... but this is a completely different pitch story.
But, as for its work in ordinary PCs, when a video card is inserted into the PCI-E slot, the built-in core is completely disabled and all 16 PCI-E lines go to the video card, so it never "intercepts the work" of some programs, since they are not physically have access to it.
But in laptops it really happens and it can turn into a real crap.

The FX-83 ** was once an excellent choice for toys, when it cost exactly 2 times cheaper than the average i5. Now, giving 13-15k for it, for assembling a gaming PC, is extremely unprofitable in the sense that by adding 2-3k you can take an unlocked i5. All the more so as all commercially available FX are completely outdated and have no future.

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MunchkiN 616 21.11.21

Belomorkanal
All the more so as all the FX available for sale are completely outdated and they have no future.
like the 1150 socket. i5 4xxx K agree there is still some kind of performance cushion, but it is not in the assemblies and it will also need more expensive components.
and that for amd fx its purchase just a long time ago was not justified because the games worked poorly on it. justified, it became current recently when the ossossins and others learned to use it. and all sorts of i5 especially old models and i3 began to sink slowly.
and considering that there is nothing paradoxical in the fact that approximately one level of performance costs approximately the same - no matter what to take.