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Mayamenstate 25.12.21 09:41 pm

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GTAman 25.12.21

Mayamenstate
Who invented this division into Europeans and Slavs?
There is no division, the Slavs are Europeans.

Russia, Ukraine, Belarus should be called Eastern Europe
Already.

and Eastern Europe should be called Central Europe.
Why invent additional regions for no reason?

[Denis Aleksandrovich]
Do decaying people live in the Mos region?
It depends on what you compare it to. With the rest of Russia - yes, with some Norway - no.

In the provinces, two children are a luxury.
No. As a resident of the ZAMKADya I report.

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Denis Kyokushin 25.12.21

V-Nine
. With the rest of Russia - yes, with some.
What's the decay?

No. As a resident of the ZAMKADya I report.
You can have two. But it’s a problem to support them. Now everything is precious for children.

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RicoChico 25.12.21

where there
were simply no European goods on store shelves , but not on a mass scale.

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7Rain7 25.12.21

[Denis Aleksandrovich]
How wrong you are in your last posts. Even in our office, many will soon have a third birth. It seems that people do not strain, they even buy new apartments. Not selling old ones, but leaving them for rent.
Province, 800 km from Moscow))).

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Denis Kyokushin 25.12.21

7Rain7
My friends have one at a time. The province is 260 km from Moscow.

It seems that people do not strain, they even buy new apartments.
In a mortgage

Even in our office, many will soon have a third birth
Well, as I said: there is prosperity, people breed.
There are more cars on the roads in my city, but again, loans

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7Rain7 25.12.21

[Denis Aleksandrovich]
On a mortgage
No, not on a mortgage. I say, second, third apartments. I'm doing repairs in the third. In the new house, apartment, kopeck piece 64 squares living. Lyam on her loan, but because there will be a hut for change, it will extinguish itself + a little profit.

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Denis Kyokushin 25.12.21

7Rain7
I drove a request for vacancies in your city, I almost burst out laughing. I looked at the job openings as a turner, they offer 50-85 kilos per shift. And do you know where? In Moscow!
You see, for comparison, I took people who live in our Moscow region, but work in different places. I see mothers with 2 children in their family. And people who live in my city of Kovrov, but work in the same way, in different places. And they have 1 child. And the workers of our institute, where machine operators receive 120-160 kilos, did not touch.

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7Rain7 25.12.21

[Denis Alexandrovich]
You see, buddy. It makes no difference to me what you drove in and where. Someone has additional income in addition to work. Someone else just drips from a couple of surrendered huts, even if nothing is done. + work in a cozy office. On which, again, there is plenty of time left to hang around here. Another half. Not much, I don't argue. But we have already typed a hundred. Now calculate the costs of utilities in Moscow, for meals in a restaurant, in a cafe, going to the cinema, bowling, billiards, a gym. How much is coming out? For the same products, the price difference with Moscow is enormous. How much will be left of this hundred square meters in Moscow? I have a communal apartment in all 3 huts, 15 out of 85 remains. I have to drive 1.5 Km from home to work. Fuel and lubricants costs are generally zero. I spend a tank a month. The food and all the bullshit are cheaper here. Throwing 20-ku on little things for fun + 15-ku for lunch during work.
So you measure the costs with income. From 30 to 50 remains almost every month, if you do not make any special purchases.
PS: The child has nowhere to put his toys and things.
PPP: I wrote to you only 2 of my income, which do not cause stress at all. The wife is engaged in her business, and it has hired deputies. Her income is purely her pocket money. I'm not even interested in him.
I drove a request for vacancies in your city, I almost burst out laughing.
Well, now it's clear how you find a job))). I laugh at such people.
PPP: I don't think it makes sense to continue this conversation. Writing is not interesting, and it looks stupid here. I will only say what I have already said. You do not look specifically at income, but the ratio of income and expenses associated with the peculiarity of a particular region.
I will never move to Moscow for your 100k))). Yes, and you drove here a little on the average Moscow salaries.
Check it out, get lost. In Moscow

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Denis Kyokushin 25.12.21

7Rain7
You see, buddy. It makes no difference to me what you drove in and where.
You see, buddy, I found a job at VIAM via the Internet. I don’t think that the named amount of earnings in Yoshkar-Ola is a duck. True, for some reason it wasn’t registered for workers in offices. They offer 77 for work as a minister. 20-25. The cleaning lady at the airport 30-38. To the traffic police 35

Someone has additional income in addition to work.
Of course, there is, but not everyone

else just drips from a couple of huts, even if nothing is done. + work in a cozy office.
25 per hut is not sickly.

Now calculate the costs of utilities in Moscow, for meals in a restaurant, in a cafe, for going to the cinema, bowling, billiards, a gym. How much is coming out?
We have slightly different costs, but for a communal apartment he gives 10-ku, taking into account 5 registered people.

For the same products, the difference in price with Moscow is enormous.
Not at all. Some sausages in my city are more expensive than in Moscow.

How much will be left of this hundred square meters in Moscow? I have a communal apartment in all 3 huts, 15 out of 85 remains. I have to drive 1.5 Km from home to work. Fuel and lubricants costs are generally zero. I spend a tank a month. The food and all the bullshit are cheaper here. Throwing 20-ku on little things for fun + 15-ku for lunch during work.
You seem to have written about the child earlier. No? We have the main costs for children. I take food with me, sometimes I go to the dining room. I don’t dine in restaurants. We don’t have any nichrome left over from a hundred. We don’t buy used things for children. .We are trying to ensure that they have everything.

This is in Moscow for 5-7 hundred you really can't eat))).
In McDuck, 700 rubles is enough for two. If you want rolls, then for two about 2,000 rubles

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The same thing. They took a lot of them to the village. Only in addition to the toys they need to dress, put on shoes and feed them

Well, now it is clear how you find work))). I laugh at such people.
And where is there to laugh?

I don't think it makes sense to continue this conversation. Writing is not interesting, and it looks stupid here.
So I wrote, as if all Yoshkar-Ola lives the way you do.

You do not look specifically at income, but the ratio of income and expenses associated with the peculiarity of a particular region.
I don’t think that the 35-40k proposed in the ads will be enough in your city to support a family with 2 children. In the same way, 70k will not be enough in Moscow. I will

never move to Moscow for your 100k))). Yes, and you drove here a little on the average Moscow salaries.
I didn’t touch the Moscow statistics. The statistics are shnyaga shnyazhnaya. One has 160, the other has 30, 95 by sex. Here are the statistics.

The wife is engaged in her business, and it has hired deputies. Her income is purely her pocket money. I'm not even interested in him.
Too chocolate)

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GTAman 25.12.21

Mayamenstate
Spoiler

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7Rain7 25.12.21

[Denis Alexandrovich]
Sori, I was in the bathhouse, could not answer.
True, for some reason, it was not registered for employees in offices. For work as a minister, 77 are offered. For locksmiths, 20-25. An airport cleaner, 30-38. To a traffic policeman, 35
. sometimes quite sad with good specialists.
25 per hut is not sickly.
If I also looked at the maps, B. Uraeva, a new area, closer to the forest and the athletics center. Well, + a separate boulevard is being built through this new district. And the apartments are renovated.
We have slightly different costs, but for a communal apartment he gives 10-ku, taking into account 5 registered people.
1 in each is prescribed. In the one that we live, a wife with a baby.
Not at all. Some sausages in my city are more expensive than in Moscow.
We have a lot of meat processing plants around, a huge egg farm nearby. I honestly don't know how to do it right - an egg farm))). Yes, a bunch of food in the distance of no more than 200 km.
We don’t buy used things for children, we try to have them all.
I never take Second-hand, the child has everything, but the other day he was assigned to a private kindergarten. In a private clinic, we treat if that. Although if the little ones get sick, they can afford it right away))). But where can you get to from this.
In general, a baby is sacred and beloved, so I can't imagine how you can save on it, for my own sake. So it's better not to start a dispute here.
In McDuck, 700 rubles is enough for two. If you want rolls, then for two somewhere around 2000 rubles.
I take the sets here http://setsushi.ru/type_category/sets/ True, they have few sets on the site. At 2k. the two of us will not fit)))
Although I eat 20-25 pieces at a time easily.
The same thing. They took a lot of them to the village. Only in addition to the toys, they should be put on, put on and fed,
We should go to the garden, or give them away . Dressing, shoeing and feeding is indisputable. Moreover, it is good.
And where is there to laugh?
As if all interested people first consider the connections and relationships they have developed.
So I wrote, as if the whole Yoshkar-Ola lives as you do.
Everywhere they live and worse and better. There is no point in arguing here either. So we have in any city and region.
I do not think that the 35-40k offered in the ads will be enough in your city to support a family with 2 children. In the same way, 70k will not be enough in Moscow. It depends on
who is used to what. Who does what. No matter how sad it is, there are not a few families who have much less and live with 2 or more children.

It's true about my wife, we have a baby for almost 1.3 months. I had to go to the kindergarten, because her father is very sick, and I have work and other matters related to family income, so it is also not an option to stay at home. As I say, it strongly depends on the amount of expenses for the same things and needs. How many private kindergartens do you have? We have a private garden next to the house in a 3-room apartment, completely designed for kids. There are 2 educators, both with medical education. The kindergarten is licensed. He is in the kindergarten from 10 am to 4 pm. Designed for 6 kids, while there are 5. We pay 8.5 tr. Weekend kid at home. Additional food, in addition to cereals, etc. we buy ourselves. In the kindergarten, in all the rooms of the camera, from work I can remotely connect to any room and see what is there with the baby and how.

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Wing42 25.12.21

Mayamenstate
In the 90s, trams and buses had special ticket machines: you put a coin, turn the wheel, and a ticket pops out of the slot. Although, perhaps, you are a well-known rebel and cleverly deceived these machines, rolling a "hare". Most people then were honest and paid regularly.

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Wing42 25.12.21

Mayamenstate
It looks like we remember the 90s differently.