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ivan sytyh 11.01.20 11:18 pm

Percent for games.

Hi all. Need help. What percent of games better suited 8400 or i5 Ryzen 5 2600.
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Gans fon Friderman 11.01.20

Ivan fed
Both are good. We need to look at your budget.

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ivan sytyh 11.01.20

Hans von Federman
Allows you to buy one of them +a good mother. Z370 for Intel and for AMD Х470

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Luka_gg 11.01.20

Ivan fed
Same. well, if price is the issue only because Intel is in short supply, the purchase of a 2600 is obvious. Buy and overpay for Intel 10 thousand, I consider it a bad option. The same 10 thousand better to invest in a graphics card for example, or a good RAM 3200 DDR4 CL14.
The build is here: http://forums.playground.ru/hardware/pomosch_pri_sborke_pk-968132/#comment-17676962

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ivan sytyh 11.01.20

VOVAN WOLF
How 2600 will discover in the game where the load is on one core. In Stalker for example. Przadka will fps, the Fx 8320 is very strong given.

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Luka_gg 11.01.20

Ivan fed
Much better. Stupid comparison. Yes, they still attributed the weaker numbers on the core, but in parrots 2600 outputs the flow rate 4790k.
And what kind of play? For a long time on the yard 2018, the Ah is already the case goes to 2019.
Google your specific game. I think problems should not be.
With AMD work need to know, but actually as with Intel, but if the second is even something to forgive (although it sounds stupid, but it's easier), then AMD needs to revise their meager knowledge and abilities. Collect and correct issues/problems will not arise.
Well, the Stalker, as far as I know, single-threaded, is Yes:
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The trouble is, these video RAM are very low-cost, even ridiculous such to put. In General, gather correctly, you will get even greater numbers than in the video.
You have the choice is not great in General. Want to pay more? I doubt it. The same processor will get for less money (money that he was worth 8400).
Good RAM is essential to the success of health as Intel and AMD: http://forums.playground.ru/assassins_creed_origins/proizvoditelnost_fps_razgon_odissej-968144/
Don't like it, it's cheap, can always sell and buy Intel. DDR4 will move to Intel. I, as owner of the second PC from AMD happy.

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ivan sytyh 11.01.20

VOVAN WOLFу me the difference between the processors in a 4 cu rubles.

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Luka_gg 11.01.20

Ivan fed
Decide for yourself. Then you can change to 8700k (if we are talking about 8400).
I have more to persuade will not. All told and explained to, and not once. Take that to the heart lies, money, and even this difference is negligible.
If Intel will collect, yet don't skimp on a good Mat. fee (Pitalovo view and ohladu) and good operativni memory (for a maximum write - on Samsung with lower timings and a frequency of at least 3000/3200). Ie all the same conditions. And will You good PC.

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OkGo 11.01.20

Don't know why, so hunt ryzen 5 2600/2600x, when 13 thousand on the CU offer ryzen 7 1700.
In my opinion - much more elegant choice, assuming the choice of price/performance. Except that you will need to take a normal tower cooler.

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ivan sytyh 11.01.20

VOVAN WOLF
Hi, first time to go to Ryzen 5 2600 this RAM G. SKILL DDR4 8Gb (2x4Gb) 2800MHz pc 22400, TRIDENT Z ? That which you suggest to buy in my online shop yet.

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Luka_gg 11.01.20

Ivan fed
Welcome.
See You in Moscow, and was a little puzzled where You are there in the online shops buy so. There are regrad, CU is in Germany.
The fact that You take is not the best option.
I'll give You universal video on choosing RAM for any build:
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Leave yourself, you're a little more technically literate in PC building, there he has a very good channel, he has risen, will tell all will show, explain.
The choice of RAM, Your current option is not the best. Looking at the timings it becomes painful. She's probably on the chip Hynix. I see the price tag of 7500, add a little be better.
Once You are out of Russia, then are able to buy freely and in Germany:
Build:
Motherboard is there you can buy - B350 gaming f. But guarantee, see for yourself, if DDR4 and the CPU is not particularly in need of this, mate. card may in Your best interest. Personally, I bought in Russia.
24, 000 with delivery. Cooler good for overclocking, pull ohladu even 2700.
Think or look at regrade. Really better bother. A versatile option - Samsung (green strips), good looking, popular among collectors.
Write, though that there is a shop and think. Above is another interesting proposal came, 1700 to 8 cores / 16 threads instead of 2600. Listen to what they say.

OkGo
2600 refresh, with finished infinity factories + officially support DDR4 2993. Everything else, 6 cores / 12 threads today for the eyes. I here do I sit and think, I remember late at night - there is 1700, can it. I think it will be better? He is yet to pick up while Opera can not, and will work at better refresh rate, that's the trick and now the first revision (Yes, needs) the same good work. Please comment on the selection. I personally, still he inclined to 2700, I want to take, will net 8 cores, as well (I know the difference between the 1700 and 2700 - ZERO performance).
And, believe it or not, is the 1800S in 15 000. How hard they fell.

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ivan sytyh 11.01.20

VOVAN WOLF
I don't live in Moscow, is the site put in the course. And perefiriynogo town near Krasnodar. The percents and mother I already bought. X470 GIGABYTE AORUS GAMING 5 WIFI (AM4, ATX)mother well, and percents 2600 R5. And to disperse percents I do not see the point. So he died faster.

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legusor 11.01.20

there's even nothing to think about. take r5 2600x.

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Luka_gg 11.01.20

Ivan fed
Ivan fed wrote:
And to disperse percents I do not see the point. So he died faster.
Utter nonsense. Don't know what You have for a graphics card, but at least 2600Х is to tighten. Nothing die. The only thing you do not set the voltage over 1.4, previously AMD said that it is possible and more, but it was about the reduction of service life. 4 GHz take confidence, coupled with a good Opera, and moved the secondary timings will get good performance.
1600 + 1080 was one friend Assembly, so he complained about the drawdown. After overclocking the CPU and RAM (he is also the Opera was bad it was), the question was solved, everything became much better. Just make a note of this fact attention.
Ivan fed wrote:
GIGABYTE AORUS GAMING X470
It is very expensive You Mat. the charge was discharged. Good system food 10 + 2 phases (the main thing that was not virtual). But the cooling of this power supply system, earlier she did this, burned. Looks good, will see how actually. But really this whole set overpayment creepy, really need this? And chipset X470, a question is asked, why it generally take.
Well, okay, the question then RAM and you can start then. Where to buy? Store and what about regrade, in principle, the video clearly says that it is better to take. Rest on Your conscience so to speak, I couldn't be of more help. Bought an expensive Mat. cost, but with the RAM as it is not really. In the first 8 GB, while the 16 would be 100% better for a new build.
By the WAY! The easiest way to purchase RAM is to look at the motherboard, compatible RAM, pick something from the list with a frequency 3000/3200 timings and try to take as little as possible. In my example at 3200 CL16 16-18-18-38 (the same too much, they move down). Your offer is already at 2800 15-16-16-35 (here the same can be reviewed). Your suggestion is chips Samsung E-Die, they are dispersed extremely willing. B-die would be good to dig up.

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ivan sytyh 11.01.20

VOVAN WOLF wrote:
GIGABYTE AORUS GAMING X470
I do it because I was took.

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ivan sytyh 11.01.20

VOVAN WOLF
Your offer is already at 2800 15-16-16-35 (here the same can be reviewed) do not prompt as?

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Luka_gg 11.01.20

Ivan fed
What exactly is supporting? How to disperse or to sort out the timings / subtyping. I threw off the video, look at the choice of RAM and programs are needed.
That's what, advise easier: RAM Samsung [M378A1K43BB2-CRC] 8 GB two laths take, or if the money is not enough, the Samsung [M378A5244CB0-CRC] 4 GB. A versatile option in any case, cheap and cheerful. Chase 3000 / 3200. A lot of reviews and guides to overclocking it.
Ivan fed wrote:
I do it because I was took.
A separate module Fi Fi I bought for 800 rubles. To overpay for him, when all separately it's cheaper and more convenient.