Question to the end. Spoilers! (Final Fantasy 15)

Play other versions of "final fantasy" ... 10 or 12... there is also the Crystal has the power not only to revive but also to reconstruct the events up to a certain point... In Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: The Crystal Bearers and Dissidia Final Fantasy all these are all... So nonsense to discuss dead or alive... We are given to understand that this is not the end :)

Hmm, the ending, of course, just a gesture, I Ask for what ran as many hours, if still all die in the end?
Actually questions about Ardina:
1) Ardin in the late 13th Chapter says he was a Healer,healing people by taking to itself of impurity. Also was the Crystal King. Crystal apparently chose not the King , and healer, what envious King was offended and drove the Healer, making him a real monster. While Ardin says that his real name is Ardin of Lucis Kalum.
2)However, in the archives at the description Ardina slightly different infa
They write that the King had to be Ardin, but he never received the blessing of the Crystal due to the fact that healing the people brought upon themselves the filth. and decided to take revenge kind of Lucis.
Duck who he really is, a healer or a king? in the story it seems like no one except the king can not become the protector of the crystal.
Or maybe there were 2 of the king's brother? if offended should not the king and not the kind of Lucis, and crystal.
In General it is not clear how 1) and 2) is connected, and where more accurate information. Hopefully someone will explain :)

macsim702
For me,the game this particular time to adequately chew) At the end of Chapter 13, Ardin himself says,and I quote in order to save thousands of people,gathered into his body the myriad demons because of this has become so impure body and soul that the light of the crystal rejected him and not made the ascension,and this took a jealous king who was not chosen by the crystal, branded him a demon and banished from Lucia. On this basis,we can understand that Teinowitz and Ardin were brothers. This is confirmed by the phrase and after the victory over Teinowitz,in the 14th Chapter,before the battle with Ardina where he says that we release his brother.

DarkTM
Clear. Apparently I somehow missed a side conversation between the seer after the battle. But I was close , which was 2 brothers :)
In General, at the end of Chapter 13 I have another translation to Windows edition. Because of this misunderstand

DarkTM
I would also like to ask you about friends...
Do you think they survived?
After all, before the battle with ardina , he cut down some magic. BUT after the battle with him, they are all three alive and well there and escorted Nokta supposedly on his last journey to the throne room. Further, Noct rises, and friends prepare for battle against the advancing demons. It is possible to assume that Friends still survived
If not..
the conversation around the campfire at the end and 4 empty chairs at dawn, clearly implying that no one survived..

macsim702
Friends,most likely, survived. Hints at this stage,after the victory over Ardina in Insomnia,where Noctis says goodbye to his friends and sends them and talk throughout its 14 chapters, according to type,whether Ignis feel the dawn, etc. the conversation around the campfire in the credits suggests that this is the last camp of friends and it hurts to say goodbye. More questions is the post-credits scene,but finalka always ambiguous in such things) maybe future updates finished,as it was with the extension 14 of the head in the royal edition.

DarkTM
DarkTM wrote:
More questions and causes a scene after the credits
and about what scene you mean, a wedding in Paradise?) duck is in order to brighten up the ending. All in bright colours shinning, everyone is happy, happy, victory, voice background. This clearly gives to understand that it's not reality ) I understand that this scene was not at all informed (here I could be wrong)
DarkTM wrote:
maybe future updates finished,as it was with the extension 14 of the head in the royal edition
and you can see how there used to be? I just only played the Windows edition and have nothing to compare :)

macsim702
The size of Insomnia was significantly reduced,approximately from 1 end of the street to another 2 minutes to run to the gate. Cerberus and epic cutscenes of the destruction of the barrier was not. The battle with the kings was not there. If you really really want to see the cropped version,view the passage 14 of the head 16 when the game just came out on consoles.
About the wedding,maybe so,maybe not,the game unfortunately does not give any facts as to confirm this,and refutation. A very open ending was)

Don't know about you, but I understood the ending as follows:
A movie by the fire is parting Noctis, before the fight with Ardina, as all the attacks and spend the night at the tents was always serious and all that, but here Nackt understood that this is the end.
The scene with the dawn and empty chairs - this means that Nact were lost, and about friends - it is not known whether they survived after the fight with the demons or not. But I first thought came the one that through death Noctis, they are not going in the tent, as it has no meaning, because the center was just Noct. And each went his way.
The scene with the wedding - this is the world of illusion/Paradise/what could happen if everything was okay and things like that, that somewhere out there all happy and all have a high CP...
If we make a verdict, it is in every sense of the sad ending of that kick. Oh, and in the throne room before the battle with Ardina, where hung the body of the father, of the moon, you fags in white(the old man who wanted to possess the crystal), also hung Niks from the cartoon Kingsley

Keny555
Understood everything correctly. Nect the plot was supposed to give life, the Moon could have survived if she hadn't stabbed Ardin.
Just as Ardin could kill Nokta with ease at any point in the game. Why did he pull? it is not clear
Friends most likely survived.
About the corpses hanging in the throne room. Regis and Knicks for sure. Also 2 body in white is unclear. To the moon is not very similar (too mutilated corpse). The Emperor is also unlikely, because the Emperor is turned into a demon and his body was just a white robe on a throne in the Fort, in Chapter 13.
Another interesting point , associated with corpses. As soon as Noct ascends to the throne, the corpses disappear immediately, all 4. That is the impression that this is not real corpses , but merely an illusion.

macsim702
Pulled time probably because of the fact that he is immortal and very powerful, I have not yet met a strong enemy, etc.
About the moon and Emperor sizing with zoom(photo shooting), then the Moon(100%) and the Emperor. The moon with the color of the skin, if only from a coffin got, but the cut and the blood on the side of the dress gave me to understand that it's really her, and that's why the Emperor is there, he's a demon has become - is not clear. About illusions - Yes. Maybe Ardin wanted to show those that ring destroyed his power and influence thus on the psyche? If this is he good for Easter eggs, but no more. For the average player, just run past it. Well hang some body, well gone, well and figs with them)

Keny555
revised scene, really the Moon...horror of course)
Keny555 wrote:
Maybe Ardin wanted to show those that ring destroyed his power and influence thus on the psyche?
maybe so, and maybe Ardin hung them as trophies, to cause anger and catch up on horror Nokta and friends)
But the whole scene fit out and added to the atmosphere. As Ardin. It Persian like more than others, a kind of controversial, charismatic villain with unusual motives Ala to conquer the world blah blah. However, it is felt that as Persian Ardina not revealed until the end, something did not finish. TABATA is wasted Ardina (like the moon actually), cut out from the game many of the facts that were present in the original version.

macsim702
Yes,Ardin came out of the charismatic type, and scene rules, if he had the same power, etc., that may like that would lead, but the fact that it is not revealed, like other Persians, is Yes. Still gash 3 DLS, and in the Chapter about the Ignis, there is generally the ending is different if you make the appropriate selection)

1. Friends understand most likely to survive is not the first time against hordes of demons were(remember the time when Noct escaped with the crystal and threw them against the mob of demons) plus they are ten years in apocalypticism the world lived. Will last until Noct sitting on the throne could.
2. The hanging corpses is clearly another illusion was. Wherever he is these corpses would be looking for(especially nicks and Lonetree). Plus it has been 10 years, all the skeletons were to become.
3. the scene in the camp is most likely the same consistency overnight before the fight.as wrote above.
4. the moment with the wedding so did not understand what was it? Completely meaningless point. They are both definitely dead.
5. About Ardin at the end, only after the death Nokta I realized they supposedly there finished off, or Vice versa healed from the contamination and he joined them? For when Noct pulled his hand I thought he wanted to save, and in a second on him the ghosts attacked.

Анжелика04
5. Finished off, as he is immortal and sooner or later back to back.

In General, this is not the end of history, in 2019 will be 4 DLS about Ardina, Araneo, Lanfrey and Noctis.
Noctis is an alternative last Chapter and therefore the finale. I hope at least there he would survive. Episode Ignis doesn't count, he's kind of freaky. While DLS makes Terada, and that means addiction is not going anywhere.

Much has already been chewed, will add a couple of comments from myself.
1. The scene with the guys in the tent.
This was discussed back when Noct returned to the hammer and said that we have much to discuss and Ignis offered to go into the tent. We do not show immediately, only the end, when they wore the uniform and went to town.
2. On the basis of the heavy scene in the tent(which is on a tear breaks), most likely the guys preferred to die in the final battle protecting the king. So, in my opinion they got in to crystal and helped to clear Ardina. As it cleared, acknowledged and pierced as a Martyr.
3. Reunion Nokta and the moon, it's nothing like final Fantasy.

piss. right now would be the story to do so myself I think I invented a couple.

I understand that it may be too late of course, and already irrelevant.But I will share my opinion about the finale.Maybe someone at the moment only passed, and still goes in search of answers to questions that will arise after the passage.So as you can see that there is contentious issues in the review and a clear opinion in the end, no.My version of course is not true,since we can't know what's in the mind of developers.But in my opinion will be the closest to her.

The fact that Lunaria and Noctis died,it is absolutely accurate and the game is shown,it kills Ardin,the same predetermined Noctis to sacrifice themselves for the common good.In this I think all will agree.

As regards disputes about what became friends.They died with Nection,most likely,although this is at first sight absolutely not obvious.The above was also a screenshot where they are all together, Regis,Ignis,Noctis,Prompto,gladiolus,and in front of them Ardin.As we know from the story,Regis, died after the attack of the Empire on Insomnia almost at the beginning of the game,Ardin was defeated by Nection in battle,Noctis offered himself as a sacrifice for the salvation of mankind.Judging by this factor,then the logical conclusion that since there are our friends,they too are no longer alive.

Now about the scene in the camp.This scene takes place,again,nothing here exactly to say,before the final battle.Not after,and there Noctis aware of the fact that he died and his friends also,as written above,and the fact that he condemns them to death along with him.I do not remember what is literally said Nocht,but remember the phrase in which he said he was unbearableunbearable most likely it is because of this.And it was then that the scene with empty chairs,and an extinguished bonfire at dawn,explains everything,because if no one survived,no one to sit in chairs and watch the fire.Another argument in favor of the death of the entire company.

Then,as for the final scene,with Nachison and Lunaria,here I think all is clear.In the background we hear the voice of victory, that clearly tells us that all this is happening in the other world,in heaven or wherever they were,and thus found each other.

As for who is Ardin.If I remember correctly,when he reveals as the villain,speaks his real name.The friends asking him who he is,I do not remember how was called the first king of their kind of Lucis,but something like You're the king-founder?,to which he replied that he was his brother.

I hope not forgot to mention anything.