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CheBurashka-mih 01.02.20 03:26 pm

The best weapon (Fallout 4)

Noticed that many people use shotguns, 10 and 38, and then complain that they can not complete quests or kill a monster, the most effective weapon in the game is automatic 5.56 caliber + at Cricket expensive to buy gun machine gun 45 caliber (Click and pray-explosive munitions area of effect damage) render times on any enemy on any difficulty level (Push and go) especially effective against ghouls, robots and power armor. If you have problems with ammunition to watch the topic (Easy cover)
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Atay Wolverine 01.02.20

One of the best weapons - hammer, normal, or reactive, if the pump power and stealth, the rare enemy you can't lay with the first blow.

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BlackTigerTK 01.02.20

Devastatorrr
Actually the theme is Best weapon, while not the most powerful, no? IMHO not powerful knows best. And I would like to note, the question itself is not correct. Because the best weapon strongly depends on the chosen manner of combat. Many, including myself, prefer to play stealth with a sniper weapon. There are heavy weapons as it were, and is not listed. Although there are different situations. The lair of the Mechanist in his time were cleaned just using missile launcher'and legendary effect Troubleshooter's. And, by the way, the missile launcher is otnyut not a grenade launcher. And continuing the theme of choice of weapon for the situation - to protect the settlements from missile launcher to put it mildly, fraught. And again. The video is certainly interesting... for HS 50th dropping will do. By the way, what level were gunnery in the ruins of the Quincy? However, in the later stages of the game when the SG level reaches a certain threshold, it will become just boring. Killing the enemies can be any neprikajannoi pukalki. In the same the ruins of the maximum level prescribed for this zone is 99. I have by the time you complete the main quest was level 138. But it was still the DLS... so the level grew and grew... and sooner or later the question arises - what dealt? You can, of course, concentrate solely on construction sites, the benefit is where to turn. And one more remark. IMHO, of course. BUT! The video once again demonstrates the shortcomings of the vanilla system damage. In the result we come to having to use mods that change first, the levels of the NPCs in accordance with the level of HS, second system damage. I use a combination of the two mods - LEVEL ENEMIES now SCALE in all zone (early-late game) by xcloudx and NPC Level Scaling by Genamine. So. With his sword the Ura will not. Very quickly, the game over will come. The result is that steers stealth and silent weapons. To kill the enemy before he finds you and opens fire. So the best weapon is one that can survive in the Badlands of Boston:-)
Athy Wolverine
If enemies one, two maybe. But if five or six? The same Rust Devils a random encounter is often the big companies hanging around. And if you change the damage system? The levels and enemies previsani to drop GG?

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Devastatorrr 01.02.20

BlackTigerTK

>>>>For the best weapon strongly depends on the chosen manner of combat. Many, including myself, prefer to play stealth with a sniper weapon<<<<

1. There is not going to even argue. Of course, everyone plays as he likes. And if you play from the stealth, the gun shot is not needed. In principle, when fully pumped the perks in stealth, and with a perk for the damage of the weapon (rifles or pistols), and even that the weapon itself was to the property produces additional cartridge (or double damage on targets with full health) - this style of game also will make you feel like death machine.
But personally, I don't really like to crawl in stealth. I've always loved (in all of RPG-shooters) to play the role of assault. That is, when the forward and with a song and who is not hidden, I am not guilty. Here for this style of game - gun Salvo (and Cryostor) - just out of competition. None of the other weapons in the game (suitable for short-medium distance) is not to be a mad DPS as Volley and Cryostor.
Still good, I guess, a shotgun or a minigun with explosive effect. But first, they still need to find - and it is as lucky. And secondly, I think they are very dangerous to use at close range. Perhaps even more dangerous than Fire. And about CRYOSTAR in this regard and say nothing - he is practically safe (to kill himself from cryostore is a lot of hard work).

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Devastatorrr 01.02.20

BlackTigerTK
>>>>continuing the theme of choice of weapon for the situation - to protect the settlements from missile launcher to put it mildly, fraught<<<<

But why defend the settlement using the missile launcher ? I already wrote above - a weapon that is long range, and because of the fact that its use at close range is fraught with extremely own death.
What's stopping You to protect the settlement with the Volley and/or Cryostor? Moreover, the game with these guns - gives a lot of fun. Especially the Volley gun (very fun to play).

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Devastatorrr 01.02.20

BlackTigerTK
>>>By the way, what level were gunnery in the ruins of the Quincy?<<<<

I don't know. But what is shown on my videos is my first visit to this location. And I went there about 53 level. So (if I understand the mechanics of leveling this game) - the arrow was there, too, about level 53.

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Devastatorrr 01.02.20

BlackTigerTK
>>>>However, in the later stages of the game when the SG level reaches a certain threshold, it will become just boring<<<<

I also will not impose their opinions. But personally I in such cases - just put the hero on the shelf. And start a new game, a new character, but with a different style of play, or even another game start playing. That is, if the hero has already pumped, and if you are already interested, it just means that I have enough of (this character, or even in this game). Of course, you can periodically return to the hero if leaped nostalgia.

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Devastatorrr 01.02.20

BlackTigerTK
>>>>Video once again demonstrates the shortcomings of the vanilla system damage<<<<

I think in the case of Salvo - there are no disadvantages. Gun Salvo, in my opinion, this is another (and very successful) implementation of the concept - Supersatan. That is a very powerful gun melee, with limited ammunition, which must often (and quite long) to recharge, but it's - as embed so embed. Weapons with this concept in General is very popular with huge number of players, for many years (since the era of Doom). And I too am one of these players. And so, in this sense - weapon Volley, in my opinion, a very lucky find developers of Fallout. Indeed, we have long been accustomed to hitting enemies at close range with powerful shotguns (in different games). And then we were asked generally from the gun point-blank to shoot :)

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Devastatorrr 01.02.20

BlackTigerTK
>>>>In the result we come to having to use mods that change first, the levels of the NPCs in accordance with the level of HS, second system damage. I use a combination of the two mods - LEVEL ENEMIES now SCALE in all zone (early-late game) by xcloudx and NPC Level Scaling by Genamine<<<<

Here, too, I will not argue, because it is a private matter - how to play a particular game.
But I about it do other solutions:

1. I believe that in these games where the character gradually develops - to make his life harder at high levels - do not. Because in this case no incentive to develop character. Indeed, why is it to cruciate if he is farther away - the worse it gets? That is, in fact, he is becoming weaker and weaker (relative to surrounding enemies).
I remember in oblivion, where it was first applied the principle of"avtolevelinga - people pinned, accompanying this game such review:
- I have a feeling that to save the world here could well without me...
Yes. And it could make any city guard

2. In short, I believe that in these games - the main character is at high levels - should be very cool. But at the same time - and NOT immortal. In this sense, the vanilla version of Fallout 4 - I was quite happy. Indeed, the hero gradually becomes very steep. But the game still may occasionally be a situation that is deadly, even for him (I mean the mode of Survival).

3. This does not mean that I am against mods in any occasions. For example, the game Skyrim, I personally fully rebalance (for themselves) in such a way that the combat system was just perfect - now just get a lot of pleasure from the game. And Fallout New Vegas - also very much prebalanced (much tougher strapped the effectiveness of combat options Special).
But specifically in Fallout 4 - I have, in principle, balance satisfied. If I would change anything here, only some things. So do not even want to bother.

4. However, there is one but. I play until the first death - that is, if I died in the game at all (!) the reason I start a new game. So I have ENOUGH adrenaline without any additional mods, making GG weakling. If you play until first death, then starts a dive in this game that it's just not to repeat. Get a lot of pleasure - is the fact that over and over again to successfully survive. In short, I don't know how to convey that feeling - but you can - emotions from the game are amplified 10 times. Moreover, both positive and negative - if you at some point die. And die in Fallout 4 - possible very easily. And it happens to be usually sudden. Died so - many times. The laser turret will not notice the ceiling, then at the mutant kamikaze will suddenly run up. On high-level enemy will cut. And then just jump in the wrong direction. And that's all. Game over.
So when the game to death - I do not need to use additional fashion crippling the main character, and so everything is pretty extreme (and in the initial stages of the game is generally very extreme).

At the same time, I understand that if the play is NOT until the first death, but once dead, then reborn (in the same place)... in such conditions: 1) the death of the protagonist is barely upset, 2) it is indeed possible to get bored, and start to put mods for additional complications of your own life.

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BlackTigerTK 01.02.20

Devastatorrr
I have the feeling that we speak different languages. I was talking about fashion, calocasia GG? Maybe it makes sense to carefully re-read what I wrote? Until the first death it is good to play shooting games. And if ФО4 actively doing construction, the case quickly get bored. Every time you start a build? Yes, and how many at this time of need? And about to put on the shelf - you'll go back to what I already wrote above. By the end of the main quest my HS was 138 level. Then there was another DLS. Why should shelve? And the construction is slowly working. Not all suits me at the moment. Again, there is a great quest mods. So if one has a desire to play for ФО4.
And fundamentally disagree about the Broadsider. Well does not pull the weapon no matter what! And to illustrate my words, here are a few just made videos. Mods to increase the difficulty I have already given. Plus a long time already there is a mod Re-Ballistic - Realistic Weapons and Ammo Overhaul - ReBallistic 0.63. It increases the damage of all vanilla weapons and renames some of the guns and boepripasy. However it is so to say the cosmetic effect (renaming).
Here Broadsider:
Spoiler
Clean up Quincy ruins failed. Damage maximum. PA is totally damaged. GG killed. Time is a little over 8 min.
Assault rifle (mod Re-Ballistic renames it to Lewis MKII):
Spoiler
Forgotten with the passage from skaterny points to remove the effect of Focus Enhancer:-) the Replay is not, with other weapons it will be gone.
The sweep is completed. There is no damage. Time is a little over 8 min.
Overseer's Guardian:
Spoiler
Focus Enhancer removed. More difficult with the commander in PA, had a bit of a different tactic to use. Zachitka managed. There is no damage. Time is a little over 8 min.
Hunting rifle:
Spoiler
Also Focus Enhancer removed. Commander killed before classes PA. You just have to wait a bit when the commander will appear on an inclined ramp:-) Zachitka managed. There is no damage. Time - 11 min. But the commander is killed before class PA:-)
Aeternus:
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The cleanup was a success. The damage is minimal. Time - a little over 8.5 min.
The conclusions are obvious.
And again I note that the topic is Best weapon and not mosinee. Although this category, alas, openly Broadsider merges:-)

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BlackTigerTK 01.02.20

After - Cryolator
Not immediately seized, had to be done separately.
Spoiler
Zachitka failed. Damage PA heavy. GG died. Time slightly less than 6 min.

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Devastatorrr 01.02.20

BlackTigerTK
>>>>Until the first death well play shooting games<<<<

No. Just shooting games to play - it makes no sense. Because sooner or later all the same will kill. But in games with character development - so to play for (first death) - is the most interesting. For example, so I passed: Skyrim (on master), Fallout 4 (survival), Mass Effect (all), Dragon Age - all. Mount&Blade (with the condition that if captured, then instead of captivity - game over). And many other games.

>>>>And if ФО4 actively doing construction, the case quickly get bored. Every time you start a build? And as for this time you need?<<<<

The recipe here is simple - don'T DIE. Moreover, it's not even a recipe. And that's the trick. Me personally by far the more interesting (ten times, approximately). As something different to play - I have (after that) does not want to.

>>>>By completion of the main quest my HS was 138 level<<<<

Well, who do You blame, You to myself - evil Pinocchio :) I Have a son who was in Fallout 4, only the storyline. And completed the campaign mode, when its hero 30 level passed. So a lot of hard work in order to 138 levels in the game to stay :)

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Devastatorrr 01.02.20

BlackTigerTK
Now, regarding Your video - are You kidding me?
Here's what you can say on Your videos:

1. You have the original game literally CRIPPLED by the mod, which generally DESTROYED the whole (source) balance of the weapon. In this regard, I want to ask You, why is this video posted? To show me what You have here are cheat mods? :) Well, there You have it.
But then I'm not wrote about You, and about the original game. Let me now in the Creator of the mods will change the vanilla damage of the shot per 100,000. And I will run with it. That's the same You're running with mods that break the entire balance of weapons, and something for me to prove.

2. On Your video the level of the hero (and enemies) - under 600. This is how you have to be a nerd to play almost to level 600. I have a son about this at all says that is the only cheat (trainer) can be done.
And how You got +46 by the characteristics of the Special? :) Don't know, maybe in some addition such a feature is. I in addition have not played, so I don't know. But in the original game - high Special - it's 11 (plus a few more units from chemistry, armor, or alcohol). But not 40-plus :) in Short, some cheating miracle 587 level perekoshennyy (probably a mod) the balance of the weapon :)
Look. I have (in the game) cannon Volley deals almost 500 damage. While the assault carbine (also with extra projectile) - 202 (all pumped almost to the max, just without the perks of one - level main character is not enough (43 level). Well, let it be 250 the maximum. But it is still 2 times less than that of the Volley. And in Your video all the way around. Assault carbine 600++ damage, while Salvo and up to 500 does not hold. The delusion of some kind. I'm telling you - curves modders there is something nakosyachili. And You on the basis of these curves the mods (like) - I here something trying to prove.

3. Finally, judging by the video You posted - You in assault style game - do not play. Tomorrow if I get time, I'll post a video so You can see how clean this location.

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BlackTigerTK 01.02.20

Devastatorrr
Mutilated? Fixed a balance of damage and protection is shattered? Need to play longer. The question will be. Cheat? I gave the names - can be found on the nexus and read what they cheat. In addition to re-ballistics - author of buried it a long time. But I can share the files - you can download FO4Edit and see all the changes. Plus the author in the archive, made the description of the mod.
Initially, the theme was the Best weapon. My thought is the best weapon depends on playing styles and situations in the game. There is no universal 100500 all cases option. Which is better running a good sniper, somewhere assault rifle and a grenade not too much to throw.
And again - the people who were doing fashion, checking the balance. Checked for yourself. checked on other players. Balance would be when the weapon he has damadzh has significantly more than NPCs.
Creator mods ha three times... yeah... whip marks are directly over the edge......
How to achieve a high level? See above. Need to play more. And not run every time in the beginning, but slowly and steadily develop your GG. I started as soon as the game is free to access. To recall the release date?
How to get more points special? Very simple! But not in PA. I have many items of equipment. Besides just armor torso. Each of legendary. One or the other. The more elements, the higher the characteristics of the HS... one of the reasons for the rare use of the PA.
And, in the end, the level of damadzh has for the assault rifle from special independent. And depends on perks - see here http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Assault_rifle_(Fallout_4)
The fact that my HS all the perks pumped to the max, I don't need to explain.
Once again on the cheat chyuda... show how much time spent with this hero in the game? Maybe my head will think and don't beat yourself a heel in a forehead? In recent times about the curves mods. The authors, to spread fashion in public, trying to gather user reviews. We immediately see that the modes are not used, then it would be the replicas about the curves mods arose. Yes, there are bugs, Yes there are incompatibilities. As a rule, the authors try to track down and fix the problem. So to falsely accuse mododelov probably not worth it? no? And I recommend to see all the pages of the wiki as for the assault rifle and broadsides. And to compare the number of perks that affect the damadzh has.

Devastatorrr wrote:
The recipe here is simple - don'T DIE. Moreover, it's not even a recipe. And that's the trick.
Devastatorrr wrote:
And die in Fallout 4 - possible very easily. And it happens to be usually sudden. Died so - many times. The laser turret will not notice the ceiling, then at the mutant kamikaze will suddenly run up. On high-level enemy will cut. And then just jump in the wrong direction. And that's all. Game over.
See no contradiction in their own words?
Devastatorrr wrote:
Well, who do You blame, You to myself - evil Pinocchio :) I Have a son who was in Fallout 4, only the storyline. And completed the campaign mode, when its hero 30 level passed. So a lot of hard work in order to 138 levels in the game to stay :)
Yeah... sure... go ФО4 in half a day (roughly) - a remarkable achievement. Actually, further to talk about... this is the passage through suterski... without diving in the world, without research, without a lot of side quests. In General the diagnosis is clear.
In conclusion - I have to prove nothing to anybody I want. The only thing I wanted to show, and as has been said many times - the choice of weapons depends primarily on their styles of play and paths to victory. On the SIM debate is considered closed.

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Devastatorrr 01.02.20

BlackTigerTK
Again. Damage assault rifle with an additional projectile - IN FACT (in the original game) is TWO times less than the Volley damage on a FULLY pumped perk on the weapon in question (I will come to work, show the video).
In Your same fashion - damage assault rifle - HIGHER than that of the Volley. Thus, You can, of course, in THIS play. But this is NOT the original Fallout 4 (which I discussed), and some sort of Your personal creature, which is played only by You. With a warped balance of weapons, which only You have. Discuss what You are there for yourself (on Your personal computer) was necesaarily (pulled from the original game) - I'm not very interesting. I was interested in which weapon is the best in the original game.

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Devastatorrr 01.02.20

BlackTigerTK
>>>>How to achieve a high level? See above. Need to play more<<<<

Yes, I have and he can tell you, You have reached a level of 587. You just NECICARILY a huge SPECIAL indicators. Which in the game - it is simply impossible to achieve. Specifically, You have the intelligence (in the video) = 51. Of course, with SUCH intelligence, to finish the storyline, in fact, have somewhere in the 130 level :)
While all the NORMAL people (who don't use cheats) - having intellect within 7 - finish the game (with all side quests) - approximately 50-60 levels (depending on how many extra quests they passed). Well, unless someone is very carefully scrubbed, then maybe to 70 levels reach. But 130 ?! :))) Oh, those cheaters. They are cheaters...

One thing I don't understand. WHY are you showing me Your cheat character, and even in the game, warped Amateur mod? What you want to prove something? What light weapons, more powerful Salvo and Cryostor? Well, calm down already - they are not powerful. But much weaker. And You can verify this yourself if you throw fuck all Your mods and try to play, in fact, in the game Fallout 4.

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Devastatorrr 01.02.20

BlackTigerTK
>>>Initially, the topic was is the Best weapon. My thought is the best weapon depends on playing styles and situations in the game<<<<

Your thought - from the field - CAPTAIN OBVIOUS. That is, it's all so clear. I personally, for example, if you play in stealth (the ninja girl), you also use light weapons. But this style of game - is no more effective than the game attack with heavy weapons.
If You play an attack with heavy weapons, then there is NOTHING stopping You from close to mid distance - to use (freakishly powerful) Volley and Cryostor. And in the far distance - not less than monstrously powerful rocket launcher. And she avtopritselivanie. That is, even to aim it. With such tactics - all Your light weapons is just useless scrap metal.
Only when small arms and light weapons comes in handy - it's (again) - stealth. Only in this situation - light weapons can come close to heavy for its effectiveness.

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Devastatorrr 01.02.20

>>>How to get more points special? Very simple! But not in PA. I have a lot of items of equipment<<<<

Cheater!
Actually, the outfit gives +1-2 to one of the SPECIAL characteristics. Therefore, even if each part of your armor - will be unique (and thus add the characteristics, and not any other bonuses) - that you can only get +12 to one of the characteristics, or ONLY 1 or 2 different.
And you have features: 46; 46; 46; 54; 54;51;29.
Well, you fucking cheater!!!

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Devastatorrr 01.02.20

BlackTigerTK
>>>>See no contradiction in their own words?<<<<

There is no contradiction. On the contrary, this is the whole point - when you can die easily, and your task - to survive, evolve, and turn into a uber-hero. It's really interesting. Much more interesting than cheating.

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Devastatorrr 01.02.20

BlackTigerTK
Oh, I forgot. You have a Gatling-laser - also cheat. You have a video of Volley damage = 570, and the damage of Gatling laser (in the modification of Charging trunks) = 877 !
While in the original game, when fully pumped perk - damage Volley = 469, while the damage of Gatling laser (in the modification of charging trunks) = 181.
Thus, in the original game - the Volley damage is 2.5 times MORE than the Gatling laser. While in Your (twisted mod) the game - damage Volley at 1.5 times LESS than the Gatling laser.

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Devastatorrr 01.02.20

Here is the video here, I cleaned Your location using your cannon Volley (hero level 53):


Note: at the Beginning of this video I specifically show the SPECIAL settings that You understand what parameters are normal for this game (not cheat).