Raising the retirement age

Masha wrote:
Just do not give, if not to ask?
you are going to work - all machine will be.

very sorry for the generation of the 70s and 80s, in the mill were, well, 90 survived, and worked as best he could, gave birth... they would allowances for survival, but in the end they had degenerated generation of consumers that no study/no work or do not want.

WanRoi wrote:
Because what grandmother 50 years occupies the vacant place,
you have the vacant seat? and from the bottom to start the bad?
the horror that all just want heights. But it does not happen! it is better to a certain grandmother on your site than you are undecided

WanRoi
well, do you have a diploma, what are you the grandma from their homes survive? you go to the village, work there as she is in her years in the direction of plowed 10 years and then just moved to the city, weak? in rural areas, in rubber boots?

no, of course

PS I have two diplomas :)

and PS you myself when the thread will be one of the grandmother, who for a place to grab for the earnings of your bread.

WanRoi wrote:
receive a stipend finished studying
scholarship what to do - learn!

WanRoi wrote:
we see an army of educated people
I'm sorry, but I do not believe that you have a top, it's a horror of dumb illiterate

WanRoi wrote:
Because to the question: where are free places come from?under the current pension reform - you didn't answer.
and the need to respond? I? crazy, I will say one thing: become a Professor - fuck you its young you give, will plow to the stroke

first education - health, simply could not practice to master, fainted together with the parents of crippled children, crawled and howled. XS why do I have it all finished.
a second degree along the way, mastered, managed like

Right here am interested, and is there now in schools, offices of employment, if shorter, the heads of the practice - there! from the first course to gouge such offices should give the work, want to work but I doubt that students at breakneck speed to run for any seat enough. It is a pity that in the village no one does not want to go, specialists are needed there. Difficult course and ZAR.the Board is tiny, but for a couple of years why not, practice and experience to gain? The difficulties they temper =)

The advantages of rural life for the young person invisible, but the cons, in the face of the vipers on the porch, flies matchbox and inability to quickly deflate the now fashionable patches more than 30 gigs to a new toy quite noticeable. That with age comes an understanding of how all the same great that over you and under you do not live all sorts of morons, and in the yard you can do what I want and send all the discontented, of whom there are very few, because they too can do anything you want in your backyard. Most conflicts are still crowded. Again, professionals picking your nose never needed, its enough. How many of the graduates can work in the specialty? Education struck the bottom and for us all safer if all the flock sells phones in Euroset.
Told relatives both in the hospital corridor I heard the chatter of two doctors, one boasted that his son was attached to Oncology, let the type of training, those patients with a figure nobody believes...let them sell phones, so it will be better for all.

WanRoi wrote:
The younger generation spends 6 years for diploma(good if free) to start from the bottom? He then did that?
Heh, logical 8) Spent 6 years training professionally in all, a good teacher (probably) and all that. Moreover, if you have paid for it (private University, but not necessarily). It is easy to understand the sorrow of these people, because from their point of view is completely unfair to start from bottom, when behind years of hard work.
WanRoi wrote:
And now we see an army of educated people who work anyone, but not in their specialty. The plan of the king - into action.
Since the nineties it became a norm in the post-scoop &)
S wrote:
will become a Professor - fuck you its young you give, will plow to the stroke
The fact is, by the way. All right.)
requiemmm wrote:
Told relatives both in the hospital corridor I heard the chatter of two doctors, one boasted that his son was attached to Oncology, let the type of training, those patients with a figure nobody believes...let them sell phones, so it will be better for all.
What caring doctors )) Here are treat people and... shock...

A. Soldier of Light
A. Soldier of Light wrote:
The fact is, by the way.
it whole life has been like)), few people from their homes voluntarily left in good health.
Now of course the tin occurs with the increase in the retirement age. But the curse and survive the old one last case, where would they go? They are not guilty of the way things turned out. And we? when you reach the XS what's up, maybe Mars sent to settle in, fields to plow, water from a stone squeeze)))
The aunt should be in the next year to retire, now howled. A person really hard to work, physicians disability is not put, and her blood pressure through the roof and a heap of other sores, it's just physically difficult to get to and from work became. Medicine - Oh, how probably will be to cash in on the references :).
I canceled the reform of the pension over time.
For me it would be better if the Soviet education back - the coolest thing in the world and in time, it was now one carelessness in this area.

You just don't spawn those you retire will earn when they get old. You are irresponsible and lazy. Therefore, work to the grave.

requiemmm
requiemmm wrote:
professionals picking your nose never needed, its enough.
specialists in the village is needed! but experts of course, but not just that. Veterinarians, for example.
that summer in the village dog local cat broke up, guts, package wrapped and run to the local Dolittle ... so reluctantly examined her and..: wait on the Internet will see what can be done
A specialist is a veterinarian? this jerk in his place sits and someone else gets paid. let and scanty. come on people someone in his position would do for zhivotinok.

robespier26
robespier26 wrote:
You just don't spawn those who retire you will earn when you are old
I will die young (with)
=D

And I don't care about the retirement age, even though 100 years is up, I'm not mean, I will get my royalties to someone or not, don't care, I'm here and now I live, not where the horizon I am already 65 years old, and I will not live to this age, health is not enough. I doubt that will make it to 60.
I have gray SN, so that if what are the deductions, they are purely symbolic. Of course if it is possible to obtain white SN, please, but if the work is satisfied, then change it for the sake of a pension is nonsense. We have to live while you're young, yet full of energy, interested in everything health and missing out on all sorts of adventures and other things, and then when you're 60 years old you are, there it is all wrong, and health is not what interests blunted, and generally people want to retire. I'm not going to rip farts for the sake of what old age was all the buzz, I'm better now I'm in a rush to live, and in old age you can at least lie down and die, life is lived, all the cool already, do not mind.
And so cool of course, I'm 29, prior to retirement I used to be 31 years, and now I'm up to it 36 years, because I will go to 65 and not 60. Thank you, the state has made me five years younger, even if only on paper)))

Podvipodvertov
like all right, we have to live now for myself... but... do you have children? Yes? grandchildren then will heart them more carefully will start to fight, people are usually sentimental now out with age only in this way, you are no exception. If stale, hard and lonely, then of course the FIC is useless, but if the love and family she needs, then wait to bury myself in 60, you and 75 teacher and mentor is quite amiss.

Everything is fine, raising the retirement age and VAT, cheese made from palm oil and fake vodka it was all good for the Russians. For those who profit of course.

F..K admin
why Palenque to eat? can no longer earn?
your mash or not to drive? the legal sort of. well, it's healthier and cleaner that ... laziness, Oh laziness city

WanRoi
The younger generation spends 6 years for diploma(good if free) to start from the bottom? He then did that?
Let's say you have a degree with a tower.You came to production,you set a master.You don't know really any kind of production,no machines,no work.Material properties is known to you from books.Further your actions?How do you organize the production of one plot?
Not long ago I saw a picture like:

Watched 5 heads of cattle turnip scratched over how to conduct the wiring to the new machines.Thought week.And spent one skinny little boy.We have a master electrician young,but stupid,him 4 more heads need to address the issue transaction.But with higher education.

And all this obscurantism is covered by a fine world Cup, with a well drained playing Saudi Arabia for our bow-legged, hip, hurray

WanRoi
First,in your address, it was not an insult,of course,if you didn't take into the account the expression large-horned cattle.Second,we employ two individuals:one is our leader,the second – on the neighbouring property.Our started work as a mechanic,while talking with him,never call him an illiterate redneck,though he is 61.The second young master,in the work of zero,except fetch.He even drove Sperm, as it runs here and there+ he laid the paper work.To lead properly,you need to work in all universal machines,to feel the material.And then think for yourself,what do you do with your diploma or a competent leader,or personal dog higher management and you have to cover the bone.I described the overall picture.Our leader after the issuance of the work ooh knows when he must return it in finished form.Each and every employee sees right through you.And in fact for the transaction to two machines quite a competent leader.Instead of 5-ryh muddle
In theory it is always one thing and practice quite another.

[Denis]
all right, can't be youth chief. we also have a Director of his 25th son in the heads promoted, and is a hard worker? stumbles at times blunt, as much sobbed the poor girl in the toilets. So sorry for the jerk, folder, listened to, decided to command, but broken off about seasoned)) went to clubs to hang out in the end - and the road is weak.
The chief must be from experience, including life, it needs young people to lead , not she