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Samyy krutanskiy krutan 04.02.20 12:43 pm

Rejuvenating apples?

Suppose that at the moment the average age of PG people around 20 years. Time goes on, they get older, grow wiser, grow up, become wiser... and unfortunately, finally getting old.
And here after half a century, the best scientists of the world finally cracked the secret of immortality, invented a means of giving mankind eternal life.
And it is free and accessible to all.
But... there are a couple of unpleasant moments with using this tool:
First - it keeps the age and physical condition have accepted of his person indefinitely, but not rejuvenate this man and not heal him from all his sores.
Twenty-year-old diabetic will remain forever twenty-year diabetic (yet, of course, will not come up with a cure for diabetes), and seventy-year-old big man, respectively, a seventy-year big man.
Second - the speed of production of this means is that for the year it may be enough for adoption, only two percent of the population.
That is, if according to the logic of the first to accept it will start the oldest inhabitants of the planet, assuming the average seventy-year-old (for once, this still includes our decrepit PG people), then at that time twenty years will be able to make it only 50 years later...
For simplicity, let's assume that by the time the Earth will be peace, no wars, full democracy, equality of all before the law, absence of corruption... and other benefits of a civilized society.
And, of course, making all important decisions by the General voting of the entire population of the Earth.
I think she is with the order-making elixir, you may experience disagreements And differences can cause problems, big problems among a friendly and democratic community of the Earth...
So that's... a hell of a situation.

Cho think :) the boys?
How will you vote, or rather, that invite to vote :( old fart?
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MesyacMay 04.02.20

[Denis] wrote:

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MesyacMay 04.02.20

all the scary scribe sho into Loboda a homeless person lips pounded with one processor))

your eyes...

and freak with Jolie lips necessarily frame it is necessary to drive, ugh fuck!

here!

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ColonelJason 04.02.20

[Denis]
[Denis] wrote:
Work experience the relevance of not losing.
Of course losing. Profession sought after and prestigious 40 years ago, now or even outdated, or become the prerogative of the lower strata of the population. You know a lot of the elderly IT specialists? Nowadays the production technology and demand of the sector has changed dramatically in a relatively short period of time.
blackadder111111 wrote:
Contrary to statistics
Yes, I incorrectly expressed. With the level of violence in human history, everything is pretty smooth, meant that the wars of the twentieth century failed gloriously in absolute values.
blackadder111111 wrote:
Since the 60s there is a widespread drop in the level of violence and crime.
I'm no expert in this matter, but the graphics in Yandex on request the crime rate from the 1960s at the USA, USSR, and Britain show the opposite pattern.
blackadder111111 wrote:
So the thesis about the inevitability of wars is highly controversial.
I'm not saying that war is inevitable in the future ( by the way, in 2017 in the world were 36 wars), I talked about the fact that the Institute of respect for older people in no way detract from the militancy of the people.
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well, what fool on the game online paint the crap? only a moron goner))
Never, perhaps, will never cease to amaze with what zeal and eagerly you seek to demonstrate to others how disgusting you are normal human speech, what uncontrolled seizures miserable, helpless anger is causing you any hint of erudition in the words of the interlocutor, as you unrestrained tears by insults from any attempts of constructive reasoning. However, believe me: the fact that you personally have received education and training in the barn, and the Internet is the place to podkidyvat tail, in order to fill the inner vacuum formed by the lack of attention the opposite sex, does not mean that everything needs to support your trampled into the mud bar for the level of communication. Moreover, I think that most people, even with great efforts will not be able to portray the full degree of degradation that demonstrate you exactly as you are, even at all desire cannot squeeze out anything even remotely resembling human speech.

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MesyacMay 04.02.20

ColonelJason wrote:
Never, perhaps, will never cease to amaze with what zeal and eagerly you seek to demonstrate to others how disgusting you are normal human speech, what uncontrolled seizures miserable, helpless anger is causing you any hint of erudition in the words of the interlocutor, as you unrestrained tears by insults from any attempts of constructive reasoning. However, believe me: the fact that you personally have received education and training in the barn, and the Internet is the place to podkidyvat tail, in order to fill the inner vacuum formed by the lack of attention the opposite sex, does not mean that everything needs to support your trampled into the mud bar for the level of communication. Moreover, I think that most people, even with great efforts will not be able to portray the full degree of degradation that demonstrate you exactly as you are, even at all desire cannot squeeze out anything even remotely resembling human speech.
you were able to pick up and to remain silent, but alas,..
where are you up to the village? but where have you to my dialect Pomeranian-Vologda? you're like a hysterical woman on the whole forum shouting))

the ugliness of your that are you searching through my answers around the forum, so basically a damn smart and not saying. There snatched, snatched here is a good guy? and to hell with you)

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ColonelJason 04.02.20

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The problem of the Internet is that it makes it difficult for the empathic perception, and interfere to determine the feelings of the interlocutor: for example now you are confused hysteria with disgust and disbelief.

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MunchkiN 616 04.02.20

immediately felt znachitsya household ages pitch thinking
what is of man and all DNA-synthesis it is possible to preserve and it will in a sense live
but let's say it is so
further, therefore, submitted that the benefit available to all but only by 2%.
well, in this case, will work limit is a sign of the allocation of scarce resources. if we live in a capitalist society, therefore the resources will be fairly distributed to the distinguished people on the basis of capital possibilities. in this case, likely several generations of common people preserved among them Vemma young, appears. if we have a Communist society with a vote then the need is multiplied by the value of society is a requirement of the resource. however, Ms. since we am a nationwide vote that will mean the PR company and media line will be on people famous and otherwise Mature age significantly. because mankind is difficult to say to assess the potential benefit to me in the pending future.
otherwise, everything boils down to some mathematical problem with floating numbers, where the number of medications to share with people then the progression of the growth rate of the population until the moment when each person get cure. the task can be complicated by factors that Nada not a one-time make rejuvenating apples, the limited resources of irreplaceable? the increase in production rates due to different factors and of other resource factors limiting the maximum number of population growth ATO edokov years from now 160 so when it seems everything will have to obtain immortality Apple will be nowhere to fall.
well to users Pesach then I think about half of the 20 year old 50 back already and the rest will sobut, lose your account and ITP and extrapolation will remain a little people is that they are unearthly, and dwell somewhere in Skyrim so people still all everywhere are young, here.

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MesyacMay 04.02.20

ColonelJason
ColonelJason wrote:
The problem of the Internet is that it makes it difficult for the empathic perception
this is not a problem of the Internet is purely your problem
well nah you're on the Internet like this? no humor, nothing

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Samyy krutanskiy krutan 04.02.20

ColonelJason wrote:
Profession sought after and prestigious 40 years ago, now or even outdated, or become the prerogative of the lower strata of the population.
the lower strata of the population....
ColonelJason wrote:
Most people are stupid and useless, they will remain the same for life
stupid and useless....

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ColonelJason 04.02.20

Krucinski the quiet badass
Well, you, you - we are all equal and equally useful. Because God loves us all, and each has created for some very important business.

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Denis Kyokushin 04.02.20

ColonelJason
Of course losing. Profession sought after and prestigious 40 years ago, now or even outdated, or become the prerogative of the lower classes
Not consider themselves inferior stratum of the population,not everyone is an IT specialist can earn,how much I earn on 1K62 1965 issue).Come, young professionals,arranged for the CNC,but many of them need time to get used to).And grandfather know a lot about the profession,demanded 40 years ago.And it would be sad if their experience dies with them.The more young people refuses this profession,the less competition for me).

Nowadays the production technology and demand of the sector has changed dramatically in a relatively short period of time.
It all depends on production. We do not dispense generic stanochki)

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ColonelJason 04.02.20

[Denis] wrote:
Not consider themselves inferior stratum of the population,not everyone is an IT specialist can earn,how much I earn on 1K62 1965 issue).
Oh,well, I, of course, not asserted that all the professions to lose one relevant in 40 years. Well, specifically what is your to avoid it.
[Denis] wrote:
We do not dispense generic stanochki)
That's true, but stanochki will soon do without people.Well, within reasonable limits, of course.

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Gauguin 04.02.20

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Wikipedia - now the dictionary and index? the horror!
pity the young, who in this crap looks))
I appreciate your sarcasm, but still...if Wikipedia is written that the Earth is a sphere, you also do not believe it, because it's Wikipedia?
ColonelJason
I see you seriously aim to become a champion of talk at the level of banal nonsense per square meter. Apparently, someone needs to replace Stalker, I understand.
ColonelJason wrote:
An essential benefit of wisdom of the elderly is another social myth, the failure of which is easy to detect, thoughtfully considered the question.
Strange what you say, and I am ashamed of you. Your mind, only the expose social myths.
ColonelJason wrote:
the cult of respect for the elderly has existed throughout the history of human civilization
Not quite. Will not go deep into History and remember the grandparents left in the cold. Let's just say, the problem of fathers and children has always stood. Or rather the problem of the wise old men and young degenerates, if in the forehead. And unfortunately, not always with the advantage in favor of the first.
ColonelJason wrote:
no particular shifts in"mudrenee humanity as such is not observed. We see a widespread decline of morality, rise in crime
This is just a consequence of the fact that in modern times the average age to which people remain infantile idiots (to immaturity, incidentally, is the exposure social myths and the fight against the generation of his nurse, but it is, for reference...) is quite increased. It is not necessary substitutions.
ColonelJason wrote:
and so what war in the last century went - pleasure to watch
In fact, the same as were if to speak about the level of hatred. Technology just allowed to kill far more people than before.

PS by the Way, any liberal will tell you that compared to the terrible and bloody middle ages (which you mention in this way) these times are very good morally, because there is the so-called progress (whatever that means). Isn't that a contradiction on your part?
ColonelJason wrote:
The only important, useful and significant step, perfect humanity in the last century, it is a victory over the rule of religious institutions
You often make statements that are deployed away from the truth is exactly 180 degrees. Is that some sort of Orwellian Olympics?
And in fact, just the degeneration of humanity in the care of the religion.
ColonelJason wrote:
sow the darkness of ignorance
But with this point in detail...
ColonelJason wrote:
chauvinism
Healthy chauvinism is acceptable.
ColonelJason wrote:
in General, all possible forms of hate and homicide
How terrible life was then, uzhos, uzhos.
ColonelJason wrote:
The fresh minds of scientists in the Prime of life
You are too naive, like a 13-year-old boy who read the book Docenza.
ColonelJason wrote:
and not senile wisdom, which, in contrast, often goes towards scientific progress, highly spiritual and the esoteric
And this is understandable. After all, about progress - it's hard to meet that which simply does not exist, and that for him to accept no more than skatinami cheap analgesic for humanity. And by the way, you should not oppose the progress the esoteric. After all, the idea of progress is the idea of the esoteric, not even religious, but rather protochelydra, on the level of magic.
And about science - it's just a good tool and assistant, is aimed at solving more important tasks (although in the wrong hands, it could cause harm, obviously). But not a panacea and is not a value in itself.
ColonelJason wrote:
Why is this happening to explain is also not difficult. First, about is the premise that wisdom comes with age. In fact, as a rule, come some years. If the person is smart and useful, it will be all my life,but in his old age, in the best case, not much will pass. Most people are stupid and useless, they will remain the same for life, but old age is likely to make some and even dementia. Secondly, aren't much use in their experience. Working experience of older people has long lost its relevance, and everyday experience all prefer to obtain themselves
And again, it's not quite true, but rather saying not so. Old people are smarter at least because much less susceptible to degenerative values and ideologies of degenerates, like liberalism, communism, of scientism and others like them, are less prone to sin, they have a much deeper understanding of morality, and that the ideals who profess the young Imbeciles actually not worth a penny. And then the experience and wisdom play a big role, because many of the elderly in his youth was such. But there comes a time when spermotoksikoz ends and are left with nothing but reason and experience. And then an old sage comes to the truth, sometimes eternal, sometimes relevant. There are certainly cases when people are so smart that spermotoksikoznye winning youth gets a wise old man in his younger years, without years of bitter experience. Well or on the contrary - remains a young idiot in his old age. But on average, everything is stable and the elderly do smarter. Total, most smart people, people with the original instincts of the intellect in adulthood, even wise and experience. Such people, as you might imagine, is rather conservative.
ColonelJason wrote:
Working experience of older people has long lost its relevance, and everyday experience all prefer to obtain themselves
Not quite. A smart man would prefer not to poke fingers in the socket by looking at the experience of another. Of course if he is not mentally retarded.
ColonelJason wrote:
imposed by society installations
How lame this sentence sounds, sorry. Directly see in front of you pimply bortsuny system.
Krucinski the quiet badass
Krucinski the quiet badass wrote:
useless
Actually, the practical use of this Philistine criterion. The most valuable things in the world is useless.

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Denis Kyokushin 04.02.20

ColonelJason
That's true, but stanochki will soon do without people.Well, within reasonable limits, of course.
It is not so simple.In past work,there is trash.The customer Manager.Payment of the award from public money.In fact, the Manager receives your order free of charge.Material and tools do not need to buy,electricity to pay (one can work hard to eat 10kW,and prices for electricity and other). While there are such orders (they are a sin not to use) will work universally stanochki.

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Kamred 04.02.20

ColonelJason wrote:
the fresh minds of scientists in the Prime of life
These do not exist (well it may have a few Oldtimers).

Gauguin wrote:
quasiclosed
Although it was not the sounds, but can be translated as reschedules (over humanity).

Gauguin wrote:
The basis of utilitarianism or hedonism are eudemonism
Here it is obvious that pleasure and happiness are two different concepts. Why would they identify? And oddly, there was a transition in philosophy from getting personal udolstvie and happiness for bringing the same to the society.

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Denis Kyokushin 04.02.20

In General,if b had the right to vote on the use of rejuvenating apples, I would have voted for their destruction.Let anyone not get it,give it time

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TheMorux1973 04.02.20

requiemmm
To live it anyway you want........

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ColonelJason 04.02.20

Kamred
Kamred wrote:
These do not exist (well it may have a few Oldtimers).
I mean? You think all scientists are old men? Werner Heisenberg - quantum mechanics, 26, of Anstey - OTO, 26, of James Watson - DNA helical structre, 25 years old, Isaac Newton laws of motion and gravity to 25 years. And so on, statistically the Golden age scientist - 25-45 years.
Man, who made a great contribution to science to 30 years, never gets to do anything important (C) Einstein.

[Denis]
[Denis] wrote:
give it time
That way and need penicillin to cancel - he is also your turn shes cheating on...

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Kamred 04.02.20

ColonelJason wrote:
I mean? You think all scientists are old men? Werner Heisenberg - quantum mechanics, 26, of Anstey - OTO, 26, of James Watson - DNA helical structre, 25 years old, Isaac Newton laws of motion and gravity to 25 years. And so on, statistically the Golden age scientist - 25-45 years.
I'm not saying that all scientists are old men. Scientist formed over time. Gradually accumulated knowledge, experience, understanding, performance, etc.. But not immediately. The ones you have listed, was a talented smart people. Geniuses. 1 to 100. Every scientist may not be so.

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Denis Kyokushin 04.02.20

ColonelJason
Why cling to the words?Understand about what speech

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ColonelJason 04.02.20

Kamred
Kamred wrote:
Geniuses.1 to 100. Every scientist may not be so.
And I'm not saying that first it is necessary to give immortality to every scientist, I said that to give him in the first place those who are in the Prime of life, but it has already achieved something in the field of scientific activities. Young geniuses, if you will.