The ending. (Mass Effect 3)
The game ends with only one choice we seems to be alive ? And all? Will not show/tell what happened next? As he lived to old age and so on.Oh APNU, perhaps this theme. Still sad to see that the forum, once a great trilogy, as well as the game goes into stasis. Immediately warn will be a very long post.
At the time, when I was M3, the ending I have caused a lot of resentment, and my claim was not so much to the delusional concepts of the endings, much to the disregard for characters. The concept of the endings I'll be back, before to talk about the characters.
Mass Effect...how many hours are spent in this universe. Over 100 hours (with all DLC) is very, very much. Plus ME it's not just RPGs and party RPGs, this means that the study of the characters are given much more time than in single RPG (like the Witcher). Biovars truly masterpiece in his sadism over the players so brilliantly to develop the characters, so in the end we saw patsantre and full of Achtung. But also brilliant DLTS Citadel which is, as said Primarch Viktus about Rex icing on the cake, the climax in relation with your party members. ME 3 you can much to blame, but not for the study of our associates. They were dragging the whole the M3, but then went nuts after ray, but what is really there, he would be the Harbinger ofigel from what he saw, and given the fact that the most likely Catalyst is the Harbinger, he probably thought damn, what am I saying, who me such dialogues prescribed?Yes, by now, returning to the characters. They worked much better than in the previous parts put together. With them just a lot of interaction, a lot of good humor, and if you have a novel for example with the Penny/Tali, you actually feel like the characters developed, invested his last remaining soul, before they completely drugged EA..
And now communication with the endings...but the when and no no. When there was still extended endings, then do virtually nothing was known about the characters. Seriously? You spend with the members a lot of time, migrate to them, and you in the final show of a huge bolt. Yes, they sneeze just these pixels all efforts went in that truly show all originality ending. Exactly because of this I am more and bombed. For my colleagues this is the first in a trilogy of ME that deserves attention and in detail to tell about what happened to them, it's a shame. The"extended endings at least added slides, deigned, as they say, a little to edit his awesome ending and at the same time and changed the destruction of the repeaters (what a genius that I can think of) in just their breakage.
I final imagined (I will give a small example) so if Shepard survived, and he's having an affair with the Penny for example, we show how they raise children, plus VoiceOver will be two (Shep and Penny) and the entire epilogue they broadcast all events, if Shepard dead, Liara is sad story, and tells of the love of the shepherd, and then again on all the events. If the romance with Tali, then (again, two voice over, if Shep is alive, Tali and Shep) are shown as Ranke they build a house and spend their evenings together, and , inviting his companions (Garrus, Rex, the Penny, Avika, Ashley/Kaidan, etc.) and much more drag. I just wanted to make the epilogue was so emotional for all the players roared as children. But the epilogue and should be, no need to throw hints that Shepard is alive or not, had to do this epilogue to dedicate 20 minutes to every detail to tell. To consecrate each of our party members and not just show a slide, they say there, have you seen Samara with Phaleras together, that's what you done, had saved her from death, the hero is you, not otherwise. That's only one slide is negligible, in fact it can be considered as disrespect to the players, they say, and forget about it.
Now go to the actual endings. I do not know what guided Biovars, although they had finished the theory of intoxication under the nose, do not want, but left them, what happened. In detail for each solution.
Control.. From a logical question arises, why Shepard to trust the Catalyst that Shepard can control the Reapers, we have in the trilogy were striking examples (Saren, Amanda Kenson, a Ghost) and each of them was sure that it is protected from the influence of the Reapers, but the result you know. And then despite all that the shepherd can accept the control, despite its expertise. The question is not a narcotic? Not trying is the Precursor to through patsantre to seize control of Shepard, suggesting to him that he is able to control the Reapers? From the point of view of the theory of intoxication, it is quite logical, in the real ending, comes a fierce delirium. Why is Shepard suddenly will control the Reapers, and the Catalyst AI because he is looking for a solution to actually stop the harvest, and to make no war between derivatives and organically. Yes, tell me, how to control Shepard, solve the problem of Catalyst? No way. This ends the review of the decision.
Synthesis. You know...here Biovars surpassed everything that can be beat. Let's start with the fact that they are the synthesis of physically implemented poorly. But the very essence of synthesis again goes into the hands of the Reapers, as in the case of control. In General, from the point of view of the theory of the intoxication Control and Synthesis, is the victory of the Reapers. What is bad about synthesis? Synthesis we have it the final product of evolution, ie organic matter absorbs the technology of synthetics (I understand that to think organics will be as fast as synthetics, and therefore process the information they will be able at times more) synthetics will gain an understanding of the organic. Here is the same incident. The catalyst is an AI, and has no understanding of what organic matter is quite often at war with each other, but he speaks of peace. But there is a simple question, and that actually after synthesis, prevents the same Reapers to found an Empire (koi and were the ancestors of the Catalyst - Leviathan) and install the slave system? The question is, why is it impossible? It's very possible. And anyway, when I heard about the synthesis, before my eyes appeared exactly Saren, because he was for him. And probably in the synthesis of all become slaves of the Reapers, but now they will understand why they do it. From the point of view of the theory of intoxication, synthesis is a more sophisticated form of attack of the Reapers in Shepard's brain, showing the idyll, and from the point of view of developers, it's seriously fucking idyllic. The catalyst said that they had tried to realize the synthesis but did not work, again the same Saren, but after 3 years suddenly all become ready for synthesis, due to the fact that Shepard was able to unite them. Then there is the even simpler question, and, in fact, to understand how ready people are for it or not? And in any way. Developed themselves are unable to explain it, because if it's to explain, they would understand the delusional of this decision. As a result of this decision, the Reapers are not destroyed, Yes, you can even just imagine how people really would be if the creature that just 5 minutes ago, killed the entire family, suddenly offering to help...WHAT? Okay this concludes the review of the decision.
Destruction.The ending is correct in the sense that the Reapers still die, and from the point of view of the theory odurmanivaya, the Reapers lose the struggle for the mind of the shepherd, but the Catalyst here is in believing that this is wrong, because there will be Chaos. Only now apparently he was not know commercials the last 50K years, and does not know that those same geta were not turned against the boats, and they are to blame and have begun to exterminate them, moreover geta not to pursue them, respectively, and the real goal was not the destruction of the organic. The mission of the Legion (which occurs on the server) completely proves it. The same SUZY, if we accept the fact of rebellion against the owner of the Ghost, it has risen only because the Ghost was drugged by the Reapers, and it says in the mission to attack Cerberus headquarters, where on the terminal, it is recognized that from the very beginning defended Normandy against virus attacks of the Ghost, because he was already intoxicated. Accordingly SUZIE rose up against the Reapers, against those who want to destroy everyone and everything. Yes to what he is here for the Chaos between derivatives and organically says? Between organically and organically more Chaos. Accordingly, in this cycle the concept of chaos voiced by the Catalyst, not applicable, and therefore the Reapers are creating Havoc, forcing the Geth beyond the Perseus Veil and fight with organically. Again, it is not clear how the horn is configured so that it is destroys all synthetics and all the technology, because the Reapers semi organics and synthetics, why does not die of organic matter, or everything? And why is there not just to destroy the Reapers? Again, nifiga not clear. BUT I'm already used to the endings and treat them neutrally, because I bombed nothing will change, and even can calm be trilogy till the cows come home (yeah yeah, I'll be the first asari guy xD). Therefore, despite the ending, I will never forget this universe, and I'll always replay. In General, I have a pretty wild imagination so I can imagine the finale as a narcotic, and ending the destruction leads only to destruction of the reapers. And finally (Shep and Garrus) events occur after the impact's beam:
(D) Shepard where are you?
( Shepard groans)
(D) the shepherd needs to move faster to the beam, until it came a Harbinger
- (W) can't...must synthesize...
(D) WHAT?
- (W) Joker...and SUZIE SHOULD SLEEP. It is necessary to synthesize ORGANICA and synthetics
- (G) Um...Shepard, you didn't think after synthesis, the Precursor can easily lead SUZIE the Joker
- (W) ...NEEDS....SLEEP. Curtain
After the credits EA: we are tolerant even to robots.
ps. No other justification for synthesis, I found
pps. And even Biovars I must have missed the moment when it would be possible to produce a video similar video for the decade of the Witcher, where it would be possible to once again thank the players and *salute* to the whole team for the time spent together, but with a bad ending and terrible failure of the MEA is everything for them now it is impossible...sorry.
Garrus-1994
I was not lucky, and I passed the game where the ending was, without explanation.
In General, written in solidarity.
I no longer believe that "video ten years later" would look like this :
All who took part, or all existing employees, in turn, would spit at the camera. For the ending, and so shows their attitude.
Fayrus wrote:
I was not lucky, and I passed the game where the ending was, without explanation.
Yes, there are explanations with gulkin nose, but still it's better than nothing. What shows that the developers themselves probably do not fully understand themselves what they wanted, they partially did the groundwork for the theory of intoxication, and thus dashed the original gag. The same refusal to use horn, and the moment when the Catalyst speaks the voice of the Harbinger very bold alludes to the narcotic. And the survival of the shepherd hints at this. Well, could not just Harbinger, not deliberately to kill Shepard. Rays incinerate the whole Reapers dreadnoughts, and here survived one man, while Shepard burned, but survived, and this means that Harbinger wanted Shepard survived and then begins the struggle for the mind of Shepard. But most likely, this is where all the prosaic, from the point of view of developers, the Harbinger of a simple curve.And it's actually sad. In the finals, many players had hoped, the conversation with the Harbinger, not with some sort of jaded kid. In General, personally I imagined the conversation of the Precursor through our, or if not, via the same Anderson, of course, some points ought to alter, such as after a beam when Harbinger flies away, then we can live together with the members, and sent to the Citadel, simultaneously calling on the radio the Normandy and leave companions waiting for her and they go back, and then when we were talking with the Harbinger through our LEE, LEE said/reported that just decided to go after Shepard. If your say Miranda/Jack ie those characters that are not near you, I would say that was nearby and heard on the radio as a Harbinger destroyed the entire squad and instantly rushed to the line to verify that Shepard survived or not. Well, in General it was possible to make a logical and emotional progress, but...cheap move with the kid, of course more important.
Even if the developers wanted to keep the innuendo the motives of the Reapers, and to say what they say, through the next series we will continue to unveil our ending, but with the members themselves and the shepherd is what? Their time is coming to an end, the story ended, respectively, in the plan need no innuendo here was necessary, all is clear, detailed and consistently to tell.
Fayrus wrote:
I no longer believe that "video ten years later" would have looked like.
I would if the ending is successful, then the video where the same Shepard and the squad members thank the player for time spent together has had much greater would the success than the same video on the Witcher. Because again, I repeat, ME is an RPG party, and accordingly the characters there much more more developed, those same novels with the Penny/Tali look much more spectacular than the side slice with Triss/, Jennifer, because with them we passed 3 parts (well with the Penny, okay a little less), and the novel our developed, so all that time spent with these characters (and not only those with whom had an affair) would have a much stronger emotional response from the players, the fans ME so accurately. But...ME frozen and its future is as dark as the darkness in which they lived Reapers.
Garrus-1994 wrote:
the developers apparently do not fully understand what he wanted
The problem in mass effect drew Carshine. As you know he resigned as writer approximately in the middle of ME2 development. The writer always has a lot of ideas, some exist at the level of intuition. In mass effect 1 and 2 there are many ideas and hints, details. Some have developed and others are not. On some, many knew about the others only guessed.
The most famous of them:
1. The Identity Of The Shepherd. The word Leviathan your victory is not accidental. Why not random? This story line was lost. Although Karpin said in an interview that he had the idea to make it a storyline like KOTOR, when gg is suddenly Darth Ravana. But in the end they decided to leave Shepard ordinary man. But this I am glad.
2. The corpse cannot be revived. On the basis of all knowledge of science is impossible. The problem is in the brain, an irreversible tissue damage. Information about consciousness, the memory is lost forever. And damn it, it's not just in a coma the man was resuscitated. Shepard was a real necrosis, i.e. all lekti dead, their gut leaked and rotted. Okay you can replace all organi implants or from a clone donor, but the information about consciousness, memory, lost forever. In ME3 Shepard jokingly admits synthetics don't do it. In common with the previous line of the plot.
3. Biotika. If you throw her out, nothing will change for the plot. Fuck Yes, half played for the Soldiers or Scouts. But Karpshyn thought to weave it in the end. This could be due to the relays and the reapers. In fact, the biotics stuck not even being sure that it is needed.
Milking Karpshyn not played mass effect. It wasn't burn this project,his words cannot be concluded that he did want to come back.
The game was built that more than a few parts to do. To defeat the reapers is impossible, it is not logical. So the game universe is about to come to an end.
Garrus-1994
Mass Effect should be out after Dragon Age. And this years 5 - 8. My children probably will be. XD
Fayrus
I think 8 years is a lot taken. The new dragon age is not determined from scratch. A lot of content not included in realiz such as fans dug up in the distribution model pirates (those with Isabela), they never entered the game. In fact to make only maps and voice acting. Everything else is already there. Functionally, the gameplay is the same, only the world needs to be more filled and the game interesting. So the game may come out for Christmas 19 years. I expect a trailer in the spring.
To create the next part of mass effect can take 1-2 years. MEA has been, at least to draw thousands of textures for frostbyte don't have to. And that's about what it will be...
Hope restarting or trilogy in one game with a normal install a plot without holes.
Fayrus
Greetings, Fayrus. I was glad to help you. And minusovku do not pay attention. And developed third part just stupidly did the good ending and still disagree in that their fans were accused of not understanding. And in the end there was one fan who made a mod with a good ending. And recently, it again improved.
Leshich
Shalom. Zaminusili you again :-D
Yes, it's just some kind of sadist did that like Game of Thrones. There are always quite a few people for the good ending.
Fayrus
Greetings,Fayrus. Let minus. Don't pay any attention to them - we know their opinion is taken note of, but do not agree with them. I was always for the good ending and not against were not very good. I know agree with me very many Mass Effect fans. It's a shame that developers did not admit his error. But it is in the past, so how come a mod that fixes the missing ending. Pay attention to the way in advanced mod called Mass Effect 3 JAM - JohnP's Alternate MEHEM. I mentioned it in a previous response to you, but did not name him. I think you will like it too. I passed the third part of the first modded Mass Effect 3 - MEHEM v0.5 and then Mass Effect 3 JAM - JohnP's Alternate MEHEM. I both liked it. And the second very cool part of the game. You very aptly said: As always the best there is in games have to finish fans. So we waited for mods with a good ending for the third part. I suggest you re-take a third of these mod - you will not regret.