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Mek Dermovyy 22.09.19 12:21 pm

When will there be cyberpunk?

When he comes, what generation it engraved, and come if he did. Let's powergem)
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zdrastE 22.09.19

CpaHblN 4onNk wrote:
...natural development of technologies that could provide a Foundation to support further growth of cultural optimism, the newly hatched monster potreblenia senseless and blind trust in the omnipotence of technology play in modern...

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CpaHblN 4onNk 22.09.19

hi, well I wrote, and it is necessary to have brains in your head, not in hand to understand so basic things. :p
But spasatelno for adherents of any cyberpulp explain at the level of the senior group of the Soviet kindergarten: Not a billion flies, two or even more will never convince me that shit is delicious © Joseph the Egyptian
So it is clear? ;)

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Syn Neba 22.09.19

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CpaHblN 4onNk 22.09.19

To understand the scale kirdyk:
In the fall of 2013 in Switzerland has started an ambitious the Human Brain Project, flagship of the European Commission, the center of which is the study of the human brain and create its computer model. The project survived the crisis, becoming the object of criticism from some scholars specializing in the field of neurobiology. <...> Was achieved 90% of targets for the first year and distributed over a 13-year special projects. Among these goals, especially highlighted the creation of a biologically realistic 3D model of the rat brain, the opening of the European Institute for theoretical neuroscience in Paris and the publication of a 3D Atlas of the characteristics of the brain, which is 50 times higher resolution than previous Atlas of this kind. In addition, the researchers of the project"Human Brain Project failed on four supercomputers — among them one of the Swiss national supercomputing centre in Lugano — start a large-scale simulation and test are created in the image and likeness of the human brain the so-called neuromorphic chips, which in future could compete with modern high-performance computers.
And yet, despite all largely justified enthusiasm, the horizon project HBP continues to overshadow the continuing dispute between scientists and neuroscientists. Recall that in the summer of 2014 a group of researchers sent an open letter to the European Commission to reconsider and to Refine the scientific goals for the HBP, and set tighter control on the project. Signatures for a petition delivered more than 700 scientists. Opposition was convinced that the project has opaque governance, and that the objectives which he really aims have nothing in common with those to which it was officially reported to the scientific community. According to them, from early on, neuroscientists were given to understand that in all these Grand computer simulations will have little meaning if they are backed by empirical data that would need to be to check the accuracy of the developed working hypotheses. And "NVR" just becomes a costly project on database management in pursuit of new computer architecture. In total, the project will involve 86 institutions across Europe, and the funding will amount to €1 billion over 10 years – so much time is planned to support the work of the model on a supercomputer.
It is assumed that mapping the brain will lead to the development of computer chips of the new generation and ultra-efficient technology for which the human brain is an example of an organization.
At the moment the project is fair compared with the Large hadron Collider, as the scale of research and technical equipment: the project involved 200,000 processors, and the total energy consumption of the project is comparable with an average European city.
The brain in numbers
— average weight: 1.36 kg;
— 85% of the brain is the ultimate brain (telencephalon) — the most anterior of the brain. Consists of two cerebral hemispheres (covered with cortex), corpus callosum, striped body, and the olfactory brain. Is the largest and most developed part of the brain responsible for intellectual function, emotion and traits of the individual;
— The brain is 75% water;
— 40% of the brain — cell processes of nerve endings that conduct impulses (dendrites and neurites), 60% of brain cells (neurons);
in the brain there are about 100 billion neurons;
— on a single neuron has from 1000 to 10 thousand synapses (connections of neurons);
— the brain stops growing around 18 years old;
— to function, the brain needs 20% of blood and 20% of the oxygen consumed by the body as a whole;
— in the brain are blood vessels with a total length of about 160 thousand km away.

Total, dear followers of cyberpunk, 200 thousand processors of Europe's largest supercomputers with the 2014 year trying to simulate the brain of a rat and have energy comparable with NT Lyon or Dresden. So cyberpunk for rats could theoretically occur after 2025 years, yeah.

Now about another aspect of cyberpunk:
In 2003-m to year in South Korea was founded the free economic zone of Incheon to create one of the three dominant economic areas in the world in the future. In the framework of this project was to built a smart city Songdo worth $40 billion, 106 buildings with an area of more than 22 million square meters, certified, environmentally friendly and smart. On the streets there are computers that control traffic and public lighting, the building Autonomous in the management of energy and waste, each apartment is equipped with screens and video chat to chat with your neighbors (how nice). You can remotely control your oven, washing machine and grocery deliveries. The population of cities of the future by 2020, the year was to reach 250 thousand people, and another 300-400 thousand, according to the authors of the project, every day would be to come here to work from Incheon and even Seoul.
Plot twist: only a third of the city populated. And that's in 2019! Managed to attract only about one hundred thousand inhabitants. What's to blame, guess what? The lack of soul and humanity. In these modern and technically advanced South Koreans suddenly became soul, the value to them, being able to play online for hours without sleep and food, had suddenly become humanity, and not the ergonomics of everyday life and not an apartment, stuffed with gadgets from floor to ceiling - isn't that incredible! What is waiting for smart city Songdo in the future? Who will live in it? And do not turn it into one of those Chinese Ghost cities - beautiful, comfortable and completely empty?

How do you like that, Zero Mosk?

So when will there be cyberpunk? ;)

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GTAman 22.09.19

CpaHblN 4onNk
The problem with this city is that it is built specifically with the specific and obvious purpose. People immediately were offered an unusual environment, which caused their something called futureshock. When the same thing in other places will gradually appear in a natural way, no one will even notice.

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masha 22.09.19

CpaHblN 4onNk
That's all you do, even in Russia.
Wireless technologies are developing all the world, and is the Foundation of the future society.

In fact, all computer technology, came from the same lab https://www.bell-labs.com

Here in English, because more complete information.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_Labs


Not so long ago were interested in the game industry of the past, read about the various game development company, and everything turned out so interrelated.

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CpaHblN 4onNk 22.09.19

GTAмaнъ wrote:
The problem with this city is that it is built specifically with the specific and obvious purpose. People immediately were offered an unusual environment, which caused their something called futureshock. When the same thing in other places will gradually appear in a natural way, no one will even notice.
GTAмaнъ, people are TECHNICALLY TRAINED, young and advanced, ready, allegedly, to change and looking to the future, raised on innovation and working in the field of high technologies were invited to move into the city or to come to work, but now the authorities of the free economic zone of Incheon forced to admit that even among these enlightened and innovative-minded, living in Songdo, the process is reversed, and the outflow of the population, even at the minimum turn Songdo into a Ghost town already by 2025-th year. So don't think that this kind of revolt a couple of PENSIONEROV is becoming a trend even among young people.

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CpaHblN 4onNk 22.09.19

Masha wrote:
In fact, all computer technology, came from the same lab www.bell-labs.com
Masha, do not tell my Slippers, and they again ussus words of one of the local zavsegdataem, and already kagbe not the month of may, to wet to walk. All the achievements of the bell amerskoy based on the law on non-recognition of foreign patent rights - that is not patented in the SGA, it is not protected by copyright law, and so they patented what he had learned through the channels of the CIA agents in the Soviet Union, but not all were able to recreate. To remind about Soviet portable telephone with a range of several tens of kilometers, and without any repeaters, which was created by Leonid Kupriyanovich in 1957, a year? How many years Amer managed to reproduce it and to patent? Martin Cooper in 1973, but its development has already required a fairly fine-meshed network of repeaters of a signal, causing a new relationship and got its name, ord. And it... © Hedgehog and Petruchio

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masha 22.09.19

CpaHblN 4onNk

Importantly, who is brought to life, for the service of man.
Why can't they?

To invent, you can, but that's all you need to be able to apply.

What is the meaning of the invention? To say that you invented? Well, you're cool, but what's next? Invented, I need it fast to apply and implement in daily life.

I like this position don't like it when I sit jerking off to your izobreteny who can't do for the service of man.


I wonder how many would have to wait for the smartphone or PC, made in the USSRRussia?

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masha 22.09.19

CpaHblN 4onNk
You yourself dig deeper and not just listen to Wasserman.

I have previously written about the Computer Entertainment Industry in the field of video games. There's not too clean and so clear, how it is presented.

And I just think that for all are British.

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zdrastE 22.09.19

Masha wrote:
I wonder how many would have to wait for the smartphone or PC, made in the USSRRussia?
why wait when you can already the day before yesterday to buy made in China brains made in USA?
but this does not mean that worry, cut down in the USSR/Russia grinder and refrigerators continue to work perfectly and surely will delight more than one generation of Russians to their trouble-free operation.
moreover, in the event of a nuclear Apocalypse, to whom, with different degrees of periodicity scare people domestic media, smartphone not very and then grind the roots of the pine for food. again the refrigerator case, as we well know from Hollywood movies is a great protective capsule in a nuclear explosion...
Masha wrote:
And I just think that for all are British.
Spoilercame up with it all Churchill in the eighteenth year 1.29 - 1.31.

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GTAman 22.09.19

CpaHblN 4onNk
people TECHNICALLY TRAINED
The fact that they believe themselves to be, does not mean that they are ready for instant change.

raised on innovation and working in the field of high technologies
"Brought up on innovation" should be understood as "accustomed to the high technology, which naturally introduced into life during the formation of their personality." We've also grew up in the era of rapid development of the Internet and mobile communications, with delight seeing all this, but it is not the fact that we like the way in which will this area further. For example, I feel myself a bit of a dinosaur when I see people at the checkout pay via NFC from a smartphone, while I'm on the old pay regular contact with a card I standards.

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masha 22.09.19

GTAмaнъ wrote:
but it is not the fact that we like the way in which will this area further
Artificial intelligence is developing. Maybe all the pieces of iron will via the Internet connected to it. Even if you create Autonomous robots, they need to connect to the mind, to develop communication 6G

6G, ipv6, WiFi6, around six :)

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CpaHblN 4onNk 22.09.19

Masha
Masha wrote:
I like this position don't like it when I sit jerking off to your izobreteny who can't do for the service of man.
Mary , what a kind of beautiful service to humanity what NT app megafonovsky lasim trysim your smartphone natasem a gift! and other Chronologie of googletlogo Stora? Aren't they doing their busywork neveroyatnyh innovatsii? Isn't that the same enthusiastically engaged in this Zero Mosk, Smoking marijuana in thinking about vacuum trains, and houses batteries that explode from the temperature difference in half a degree? But even You definitely sit back and masturbate to their so-called invention and without them do not think in my life! You, the present generation, already accustomed to, turned of Pavlov's dogs to hamsters Zero Mosca and rushing headlong you dutifully head off for all new products, relentless in its absolute meaninglessness, and didn't even stop to ask yourself a simple question Why is it me? Why is it even someone?. You became followers of this new religion potreblyatstva, along with some of the reviews, - obedient herd that lives from advertising to advertising, from shit to shit. The notorious cyberpunk is the same fad that everyone wants to get, not thinking about the consequences and certainly not a moment not thinking about feasibility.

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CpaHblN 4onNk 22.09.19

GTAмaнъ

GTAмaнъ wrote:
The fact that they believe themselves to be, does not mean that they are ready for instant change.

raised on innovation and working in the field of high technologies
"Brought up on innovation" should be understood as "accustomed to the high technology, which naturally introduced into life during the formation of their personality." We've also grew up in the era of rapid development of the Internet and mobile communications, with delight seeing all this, but it is not the fact that we like the way in which will this area further. For example, I feel myself a bit of a dinosaur when I see people at the checkout pay via NFC from a smartphone, while I'm on the old pay regular contact with a card I standards.
THEY do NOT CONSIDER themselves to be advanced - THEY are the experts say the same of Silicon Valley, certified smart city Songdo as one of the three dominant economic areas in the world in the future. Moreover, they are recognized as more advanced than the Japanese, because of the much greater involvement of new technologies in their daily life. Don't compare yourself to Asians, they have a different mentality, proof of which was Singapore. And with Asian companies copied the cities of the future shown in all sci-Fi movies, like utopias and dystopias, because there is, indeed, possible because that's where people die at work in any of the transcontinental global corporations, because that is where people dream of your life I think to learn to work in any of the corporations, and the meaning of life I believe the work of any Corporation, and not a house and a family, and as a result voluntarily live in a depersonalized, but interactive cubbyholes lonely and utterly devoted to his work and his Corporation - that's the whole point of cyberpunk as a genre, that's the final meaning of globalization as a world religion, isn't it? And if they fail, then obviously that will NOT WORK ANYWHERE else.

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GTAman 22.09.19

CpaHblN 4onNk
THEY do NOT CONSIDER themselves to be advanced - THEY are the experts say the same Silicon Valley
It doesn't matter, because it is important not only progress, but also a willingness to change as such. And Yes, high-tech environment also has certain properties that can make it as attractive and Vice versa. You can draw an analogy with smartphones and tablets, which once was a harsh device for geeks, and become common household appliances.

And with Asian companies copied the cities of the future shown in all sci-Fi movies, like utopias and dystopias
Nothing of the sort. In kosmopark, for example, in star Trek, a completely different setting. Cyberpunk is generally only a special case of fiction about the future.

Don't compare yourself to Asians, they have a different mentality
There are statistics on the countries about the attitude to progress? Asians, by the way, a lot different.

And if they fail, then obviously that will NOT WORK ANYWHERE else.
But it is not expected that somewhere in the world people will instantly move in ready condition. Not all technologies catch on, but some maximum level, beyond which people will refuse to accept the gifts of progress, however.

that's the meaning of cyberpunk as a genre, that's the final meaning of globalization as a world religion, isn't it?
Speaking of which, cyberpunk is not only high technologies, but their combination with low living standards and lack of freedom. In the high-tech developed democratic country full of cyberpunk, most likely, will not work. At risk are technically sufficiently developed and rather poor countries with authoritarian regimes such as China and Russia (especially, of course, China).

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masha 22.09.19

CpaHblN 4onNk wrote:
Mary , what a kind of beautiful service to humanity what-NT application
Most people don't have a great mind. Who makes it work?

But the software animates the piece of metal, anything you can do with this program. For example, using hardware, software, and microelectronics, can be returned to the disabled health.

My Google play is not working, because I'm from Crimea. I don't have a modern smartphone(there are cheap Chinese), no new computer, so I don't masturbate to graffoni.

I play the 80s :)

Your Zero Mosk, Smoking marijuana in thinking about vacuum trains
I don't really trust him.

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masha 22.09.19

CpaHblN 4onNk
It is interesting that they there are looking for in the LHC?

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GTAman 22.09.19

By the way, it is not clear negative relative to the Mask. Of course, in his company did not invent anything fundamentally new, but two things are important: 1) bringing old concepts to usable condition; 2) what used to be available only to States reached by a private company (it's about the space program).

CpaHblN 4onNk
what a such nice service to humanity what NT app megafonovsky lasim trysim your smartphone natasem a gift! and other Chronologie of googletlogo Stora?
At the heart of this lies a fierce amount once a purely fundamental science.

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[Denis Aleksandrovich] 22.09.19

CpaHblN 4onNk
CpaHblN 4onNk wrote:
and don't even stop to ask yourself a simple question Why is it me? Why is it even someone?
Why one size fits all?Doesn't have to take the iPhone 10 for 60 Grand, you can do a top 14 and to get the desired functionality
And what about graphoderes,statistics, Steam open, you'll see:
https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey?l=russian
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