http://www.rian.ru/sport/20081017/153411737.html
http://smi.liga.net/articles/IT086212.html
you've had enough..
Where is the basketball??? No one questioned!!!
tries it =))) joke
Just an analogy there
the analogy is incorrect. so to apply it, and the more cannot be...
Well, how hard can it be, right? To kick a ball since the childhood all know, the gate is big enough to hit, dribble, too, nothing complicated (kick and run).
I have already said. answer you can safely take the flow to the chest, while the ball is stuck to you?
the ball may easily lead, but only on the empty box where you are alone. and the gate is a goalkeeper(!) did you know? sometimes very good, and if we add more defenders are no worse then score or just to break through on goal can be very difficult. you ever play against 11 people? a real match? I think not. how can you say then that everything just... by the way, in basketball too, just keep the ball in the ring is not so difficult to get. for the purpose of the game, these games is similar: to throw and to score a goal there and then. but the performance in football at least(to learn how to dribble the ball with their feet is much harder than hands) in no way easier than in basketball. most likely to play against players of the Italian national team as hard as against the basketball team of the United States. So, these games at least(!) approximately equal. this argument should end, maybe it was the principal topic. from this it follows that you were wrong, arguing that basketball is more complicated than football... in my opinion
In the childhood always heard something like this from her friends, football is the most popular and there is very large money, so I went to the football section
just saying that non-football people. football play-by-play. if you're playing for money or something(that is, without the desire to play) nothing happens.
Yeah, I hear a lot of music on TV, on radio, on the phone with friends, etc. And you that like to group Bis or the song Zhanna Friske, Sergey Lazarev, or Chelsea or whatever, it's a real pop. I don't know the normal pop. Tell me if you know
I thought so... nothing in the pop music additionally you haven't heard. though he is not particularly good but certainly understand unlike you that pop music is not limited riskami, chelsham and so on. sometimes I like listening to Brit-pop. I like I rough shit what others think. besides this style, there are so many other, not less good. if you're interested, go to music in this topic http://forums.playground.ru/talk/music/224530 there you exactly explain what was happening.
I'm trying to objectively judge which of these two sports best.
objectively to judge you can't, for the simple reason that we are doing the basket. your opinion is a priori subjective. and that's an objective opinion: the best game is one that is like more people. even a child can understand. and you catch?
you're still with me you won't agree
no. what we dispute is do you even remember?! if you bring in my opinion a very convincing argument that basketball is more beneficial to health(LOL, you're saying that basketball is the most traumatic sport, contradicts himself), the fact that basketball is the best ball game and soccer created for armless I agree with you.
Well here taking into account only the results of the Olympic competitions.
what? at the Olympic games in basketball play?
Look at my first post: I have not claimed that the basketball travmoopasno(this is on the contrary a minus), I said that it is more contact(i.e., wrestling, crush, razbijanje rivals, etc.)
what a difference a post. though the first though tenth: you come to claim that in b. more injuries.. was it? was!
the fact that he was a contact, Yes. basketball court, much less a football field. but in f. more people. and when standards? the entire game's struggle can sometimes be more than the basketball at the same time.
and injury, this, by the way, is inevitable and not very pleasant consequence of the contact of the game... logic steers... polyubasu
I have already answered this question (previous post).
you it fixed? I didn't notice the first time.(in the future, that would not be a problem, divide your answers enterом, OK? I hope for your understanding) and then back to leave necessary so it is clear, but that if he stuck to you after a heavy canopy that is bounced... don't believe it!(C) =) take a video, put... okay. it's all bullshit. but still asks, wondering since you are so special that taking a strike or feed/canopy on the egg.. Oh chest=) for you bullshit, you freestyle own? the basics although used ATV.. you do?
I'll tell a little about yourself
very interesting... =) really. but the subject is not irrelevant and proves nothing.
in basketball (paradoxically) more tired
very funny. in football, for five to ten minutes so you can get drunk, and the entire match is not enough. I say based on personal experience and the experience of teammates. I play POS. center. Def., that was bad enough, but sometimes you have to flank... and there's generally tough.
in basketball develop as the hands and feet
in football, too, and if not so much it is possible to iron compete. players have seen a professional? and basketball players - recently in hospital and there's a youth team(kind of) a medical examination took place... that is to say, delgany walking. two meter slim tie. there are almost all the same. is that what you call a harmonious development?
in basketball more develops attention and reaction
not a fact.
the best game is one that is like more people
No. Here you are wrong.
justify the fact that I'm wrong! and without any nedenleri.
I justified my point of view through logical speculation: the game is what created? -in order to bring people pleasure. which game is the best? -one that better serves its purpose(more fun) what's the game like for more people? -that which brings more fun and therefore better than the rest serves its purpose(short - better). these facts are clear to any sensible person.
Again, the analogy
at least you're normal analogy cites as an example, and it is desirable to place and not much anyhow... first, where did you get that vodka drink more?=) and secondly, what kind of benefit it?(again about your analogy)
Again, look who's the first to argue at the expense of injury. I said about the contact with the opponent, and you replied: meanwhile in football, many times more injuries
already answered. what's the difference who goes first?
And you have something against rapping? First because you're trashed REP (remember his words: where are all Gulnora?), so I was like shit pop music.
honestly, I was... on rappers and their music, are neutral.. of course if you discharge the same without the chat. if offended, sorry.
what? at the Olympic games in basketball play?
Play. But also Olympic games, basketball is played in the NBA, in the Euroleague, in the Championships of Russia, in other places, and these places are not uchlis.
you know, football is also played not only at the Olympics.
In General there may be more, but based on one person less.
he was counting?
Of course it was, but even if basketball had more injuries, it is only minus basketball.
and maybe football... injuries are always a minus, but they are a consequence of the contact of the game that paradoxically plus(for zrelischnost, that is for the game itself)
Well, you saw that during the match the player receiving the ball, started to just freestyle )))))) This is not football per se, it's just a branches, so to speak, from football.
during the match may not have seen, but that doesn't mean that I can't=))) and stupid during the match to do it. sometimes it skips some elements from the most skilful players. about the fact that this is football as such is out of the question, just any self-respecting football player that wants to develop technically should know the basics. Yes, it is, almost every player knows that except stupid coinage. so you own freestyle? although you can not answer=)
First: I am not biased as to football and basketball.
Oh well...
Second: you're not going to say I don't know how to play football and know nothing about him, that is to jump to the wrong conclusions.
I rightly made logical conclusions in your posts. possible rash... but you yourself to blame
Thirdly: I can in practice and not just in theory, to compare these two sport and quite objectively.
you think so. your opinion is in any case purely subjective.
You want to ask, too: to tell what attitude you have towards football and basketball!!! I did not do the wrong conclusions about you.
football has a direct and immediate relevance of TK to play it on the Professor level. with basketball otherwise. I love to play but no more.
You didn't say that in comparison with basketball. And I say that in comparison with basketball, in football more straight-line running, and basketball are more likely to change the running direction and often accelerated and so the attack is limited, it must be done quickly as your team and the opposing team, so there does not clear up and calm pass not play, hence, rapid fatigue, and burnout(faster than in football).
in football, a much higher speed and distance. so the argument is not relevant. the statistics of how many runs the player in a basketball game, then we'll talk. by the way, in football on average, depending on the functions from 8 to 12 km. 2 of which are at higher speeds.
Well dude, I do not blame basketball trying to recruit States, it is because they are not of basketball so has grown and evolved. And you, too, compared the youth national team and professional players.Look at Shaquille O'neal-and tell me which one of the players more and nakachennye it
you are missing the point. I never even compared. and not talking about it. I was talking about harmonious development. do you think Shaquille o'Neal is a combination garmonichnogo development?=)
popularity is not an indication that the game is better because it determines the popularity of the most and most is often wrong.
Yes, but not in this case.
In the US, for example, is more popular basketball than football, and this country is considered the most developed in the world, but it about what does not speak.
it is clear that interest in the game depends on many factors, including regional factors. I was talking in General...
firstly, where did you get that vodka drink more?=) and secondly, what kind of benefit it?
First: because it is evident when you walk down the street see a group of people drink alcohol. With yogurt, this does not happen.
Second, the yogurt is healthier than alcohol.
ie basketball better than football? I don't agree. this analogy suggests that this is possible but it does not prove that it is true.
And not have to drive to my analogy, they are quite appropriate and logical, just not in favor of football, so you start to smear
what's the point? did they(the analogy) do not prove. therefore, the expression is not in favor of football has a very dubious effect.
popularity is not an indication that the game is better because it determines the popularity of the most and most is often wrong.
Yes, but not in this case.
Not a fact.
I cited three facts. and in response I heard only most is often wrong...
They argue that there are different cases, and not always better is the fact that like the majority of people.
but no more...
In General, from our discussion, I realized that there is no point to argue. Because the dispute about which sport is better is purely subjective, and no nothing.
it was clear even prior to the dispute;)
In any case, how many people, so many opinions, and while the science is 100% proven, which of these two sports is better, people's opinions will always diverge (and not the fact that after this opinion will not be at odds) :-)
But I personally (IMHO) still more cute basketball, though football is not so much inferior to him. ;-)
EPT, I Rugby 15 like football! =) but when the Champions League starts I forget about it. at the time...
Football vs basketball
Football,for the player himself,although with my height it would be better to go to I love.
and injury, this, by the way, is inevitable and not very pleasant consequence of the contact of the game...
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injury can be obtained on level ground - with tucked Galik so that after half a year of lechitsa be. Most of the injuries are the blue. In the fight on the strength of only about 30 percent of injuries. The same Keeper in football, the most serious his injury was not clear at all how, just a bad landing. There's even a fight as such was not clearing the ball from the gate
very funny. in football, for five to ten minutes so you can get drunk
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Any sport can be nagrada in 5 minutes, it only says that you are noob in this sport and do not know how to calculate power and/or toughness you have weak.
But in basketball more tired due to constant pressure and contact. In football you constantly hang for 2-3 people and don't want you to care. You have more space
players have seen a professional? and basketball players - recently in hospital and there's a youth team(kind of) a medical examination took place... that is to say, delgany walking. two meter slim tie. there are almost all the same. is that what you call a harmonious development?
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We will not consider the fans, it's not a lot wrong. Poss professionals. From the most prestigious leagues in the world: FIFA and the NBA. Take for example Beckham and Kobe Bryant, tembolee they are very similar in how their proferer played. They can be easily naguglit in any form. From Beckham: the bottom - well, I admit, legs are great. The upper is worse, hands not particularly inflated. Pres - also good but not the best. Bryant: the Bottom - ideal, the feet of God. The upper arms, not too beefy, but they are athletic shape and muscle if strained, cut. Pres - also at altitude. Take General physics: Football - the most load on the legs because this is the main weapon. Basketball: Total load on all parts of the body: legs, arms, neck, back, press, chest. In the end we have, if we take fishe - basketball players will always be stronger and tougher, more versatile. Here's harmonious development. For the players to be Champions we need to develop endurance, speed and leg. Basketball players to become Champions we need to develop the whole body in General, and endurance with the legs especially.
Operates in such matters to the fans - not a right. We have for example, all of my friends-basketball is chunky guys who compete at 100 kilos each. Pytatsa them to stop is like a train of brocade:) So your example is absolutely not an indicator.
But of all the friends-football players, such as basketball players is very small. Not zadohlik kaneshno, but on the level, or even two, for fishe inferior basketball players.
what makes you think that vodka is consumed the most?
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where do you live?:)
Vodka is the most consumed in the world is a strong alcoholic beverage. Although the largest contribution to the making use of Russia, but the rest of the world it just peel be healthy.
in second place is Beer, the third Wine, although they are not strong alcoholic beverage.
Well, you saw that during the match the player receiving the ball, started to just freestyle )))))) This is not football per se, it's just a branches, so to speak, from football.
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probably meant dribbling, not freestyle. To freestyle, I'm... negatively. especially if the game starts to stir. Dribbling is a little different.
how many runs the player in a basketball game
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During the game a basketball player runs about 5-8 miles and doing over 250 acceleration at a distance of from 5 to 20 meters, performs about 200 jumps in the conditions of active counteraction of the opponents and all this despite the constant changes of direction and frequent stops and turns. The frequency of cardiac contractions reaches 180-230 beats per minute, and the weight loss is from 2 to 5 pounds per game.
About stats in the NBA. Point guards and small forwards can be more.
do you think Shaquille o'Neal is a combination garmonichnogo development?
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In the best years, Yes. This is virtually the dominant player in the history of basketball. In the best years, he just swept away any protection. Even the strongest basketball player David Robinson, nicknamed the Admiral couldn't contain it.
Today, the standard of physical development can be considered LeBron James, Dwight Howard, Kobe Bryant, Nate Robinson... Players with the same visokoi I haven't seen yet.
it is clear that interest in the game depends on many factors, including regional factors. I was talking in General...
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so, by the way, broadcast basketball games today collect far more viewers than football;) Here's the popular.
Football, today, popular not so very much. The bulk of the audience - Europe.
Basketball has viewers: America, China, Europe-Asia. I agree, only the Chinese one what percentage of the audience are;) And in China today, the basketball just furiously popular.
Can't remember right now exactly, but a recent broadcast of a major basketball competition broke the WORLD record broadcasts for many viewers. We can investigate in Google. Mine is the last world Cup was a record number of spectators in the history of sporting events.
Basketball is a sport of the future, to argue with stupid. Football is already losing ground. But nobody says that it is worse. should just look at things objectively. Just for future Basketball ball games.
In the fight on the strength of only about 30 percent of injuries
where are the numbers?
Any sport can be nagrada in 5 minutes, it only says that you are noob in this sport and do not know how to calculate power and/or toughness you have weak.
so what are you? so many professional players noobs? so to speak, as you do only about the specific situation on the field, during the game, seeing it with my own eyes.
We will not consider the fans
but they had not considered. re-read the post..
We will not consider the fans, it's not a lot wrong. Poss professionals. From the most prestigious leagues in the world: FIFA and the NBA. Take for example Beckham and Kobe Bryant, tembolee they are very similar in how their proferer played. They can be easily naguglit in any form. From Beckham: the bottom - well, I admit, legs are great. The upper is worse, hands not particularly inflated. Pres - also good but not the best. Bryant: the Bottom - ideal, the feet of God. The upper arms, not too beefy, but they are athletic shape and muscle if strained, cut. Pres - also at altitude. Take General physics: Football - the most load on the legs because this is the main weapon. Basketball: Total load on all parts of the body: legs, arms, neck, back, press, chest. In the end we have, if we take fishe - basketball players will always be stronger and tougher, more versatile. Here's harmonious development. For the players to be Champions we need to develop endurance, speed and leg. Basketball players to become Champions we need to develop the whole body in General, and endurance with the legs especially.
POH
Operates in such matters to the fans - not a right. We have for example, all of my friends-basketball is chunky guys who compete at 100 kilos each. Pytatsa them to stop is like a train of brocade:)
But of all the friends-football players, such as basketball players is very small. Not zadohlik kaneshno, but on the level, or even two, for fishe inferior basketball players.
really? I have quite the opposite. so your example is absolutely not an indicator.
Vodka is the most consumed in the world is a strong alcoholic beverage.
LOLSHTO
I said that is not the fact that the yogurt you eat less than vodka...
probably meant dribbling, not freestyle. To freestyle, I'm... negatively. especially if the game starts to stir. Dribbling is a little different.
what nafig dribling? I am a man asked if he owns a freestyle... why are you interfering, even if the essence can not understand. you don't even know, apparently, what it is for you "in the game start something to stir up" = football freestyle. Yes, and it was said that this can be seen rarely, and mostly in the ground
During the game the player runs around 5-8 kilometers
less than in football... and give the link pliz, and it hurts a lot eight.
In the best years, Yes. This is virtually the dominant player in the history of basketball. In the best years, he just swept away any protection. Even the strongest basketball player David Robinson, nicknamed the Admiral couldn't contain it.
Today, the standard of physical development can be considered LeBron James, Dwight Howard, Kobe Bryant, Nate Robinson... Players with the same visokoi I haven't seen yet.
Two meters with dick growth – this is not harmonious development
so, by the way, broadcast basketball games today collect far more viewers than football;)
broadcast say?
Association of the international movement "Sport for all" (TAFISA), representing a permanent working group Commission International Olympic Committee (IOC) "Sport for all" at the XX world Congress TAFISA in Buenos Aires provided a list of 20 of the most popular and mass sports in the world
1.Athletics (walking, running) – 9.6 per cent
2.Football is 8.4 percent
3.Swimming (including non-Olympic sports - diving and swimming in flippers) – 8.1 percent
4.Yoga is 7.4 percent
5.Cycling – 6.4 percent
6.Basketball – 5.7 percent
7.Volleyball (including beach) and 5.4 percent
8.Aerobics is 5.3 percent
9.Tennis – 4.9 percent
10.Bodybuilding – 4.7%
11.Golf – 4.5 percent
12.Sports dance is 3.8 percent
13.Skiing (cross-country skiing, downhill skiing) and 3.4 percent
14.Martial arts (freestyle, Greco-Roman, women's wrestling, Boxing, judo and non-Olympic sports - martial arts, karate, JIU-jitsu) and 3.4 percent
15.Table tennis – 3.1 percent
16.Orienteering (tourism) – 3.0%
17.National sports (including bandy) – 2.7%
18.Climbing 2.6 percent
19.Roller skating – 2.0 percent
20.Extreme sports is 1.1 percent
21.Other sports (leaders, Billiards, bowling, petanque) – 4,5 percent
Link http://rus.newsru.ua/sport/15oct2007/football.html
for the future Basketball ball games
where are the numbers?
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and where did you get your numbers? See all of this. Regularly watching matches and reading then news of another injury of the player, understand that he earned in the fight.
so what are you? so many professional players noobs? so to speak, as you do only about the specific situation on the field, during the game, seeing it with my own eyes.
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did not see any normal professional footballer, and tembolee basketball player, who in 5 minutes of vidhaata.
There are exceptions, but they are very few. Basketball player in good shape with proper workout, never wydawnicza 5 minutes of the game.
but they had not considered. re-read the post..
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You yourself wrote:
recently, in the clinic and there's a youth team(kind of) a medical examination took place... that is to say, delgany walking. two meter slim tie. there are almost all the same. is that what you call a harmonious development?
Is that what you call professional?
really? I have quite the opposite. so your example is absolutely not an indicator.
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are you stupid? I have replied to your post about the fact that all the players dilby and pathetic lot, you start to write about some indicators.
Learn to read other people's posts
what nafig dribling? I am a man asked if he owns a freestyle... why are you interfering, even if the essence can not understand. you don't even know, apparently, what it is for you "in the game start something to stir up" = football freestyle. Yes, and it was said that this can be seen rarely, and mostly in the ground
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And what is wrong? When there is a game(Pro street) and someone starts to stir up trouble freestyle(you can look on YouTube as it happens) and pontovatsya, it may have someone evokes positive emotions, but personally, I do react negatively to such that in football, in basketball. Freestyle in the game is garbage, dribbling in
game - rate level.
Freestyle tumbling with the ball, the essence of which consists in the performance of complicated stunts and movements with the ball. Thus, typically, the ball rarely touches the ground.
Dribbling maneuver with the ball, the essence of which is to advance the player past the defender
less than in football... and give the link pliz, and it hurts a lot eight.
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what? Well less this type of the indicator? What piscaresti?
You can run more than 1km, but to score 100 points, and someone will run 10 and gain 10 points. These figures do not mean nicho and player stats have no effect, this is pure miscomisco one longer.
Look at any game in the NBA, where players 20-40 minutes on the court spend.
Two meters with dick growth – this is not harmonious development
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what do you not like? Can you justify your words? What is harmonious?
Who uvlekaetsja since childhood, basketball - all of the above 180 cm There are exceptions, but it is a fact. If a child is constantly zanimatsa basketball, any to 20 years will be at least 180-190. These are the consequences of this game.
I understand you have about Yao Mina is saying that he is not harmoniously developed, but about Shaquille... Stupid thing to say. He's a horse's health and stamina. And you've seen it looks like David Robinson in your 45? Yes any player would envy his physical condition and health. And do you think these people are not harmoniously developed?
If you are confused by only growth, it is not at all clear, and then the harmony?
In General, what is harmony?
Harmony - from the Greek. B± — connection, order; order, harmony; coherence, proportion, harmony.
submitted a list of 20 of the most popular and mass sports in the world
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and?
Even 5-10 years ago, basketball would be in the region of 15-20 seats.
Dude, believe me: actually from the basketball growth is not increasing is a fact.
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say it to me:) I for the year of almost daily lessons and basketball trainings has increased from 158 to 180, while I was 19 years old when the activity of growth is subsiding greatly. Ie, I have almost 20 years have been low for the year on 20+cm grown and basketball have nothing to do with? Well, I do not believe) whatever genetics were not in my life do not believe that the basketball does not affect growth, because he has experienced it.
You look at yourself, what exercises in basketball practiceuse, half of them also used the programs to increase growth.
I have school friends when he saw me, went nuts, as I grew up.
But to ask such questions right is not worth it.
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the LAN, normal conversation. I'm not called directly in any way.
yoga is more popular than basketball. :)
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Yes, I'm on such a list not looking. It's from the Opera, when compared to computer games are completely different types, genres and types(mo and singles) and one of the games is lowered in comparison with the other. Nonsense, but someone that does.
Most interested in how Yoga relates to Olympic sports?
If we compare the popularity, then you need to make a separate topic branches, which will not be on a par yoga and basketball.
I do not know. I have almost all my friends are basketball players above players.
How do you explain this? and if you take all the basketball players in the world and the players, at least half of the players will be below the players. Yes, even if you take the statistics of the growth of the players of FIFA and NBA, the NBA players will be higher.
Accordingly, in basketball will try to recruit people to fight for the ball under the shield
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old superstition. Now the average height of players in the NBA about 190-200 see the Best player in history also had a height of not more than 2 meters. And the leaders in rebounds, too, are not that high today. The same Jason Kidd not quite so high and keeps the first position in the League in rebounds.
someone here said that basketball is more popular than soccer...a simple example: football broadcast on such channels like First channel, Russia and sports, while basketball is only sport....why???the answer is obvious...
he also said that will go away..
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are you talking about?
a simple example: football broadcast on such channels like First channel, Russia and sports, while basketball is only sport....why???the answer is obvious...
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It is only in Russia that. In other countries through many channels, live stream basketball matches shown regularly.
And what to say about our TV, if NIRAZU Game of the Russian Team at world Cup or European championship, the Central channel is not shown. In other countries(most) games own teams show on the main channels of the country, not just the final, but qualifying too. We have the Central channel, God forbid, if a football show and it is very selective about the other sports, I am silent. Estesno, it is easier to show what some of the Stars on ice or the Circus. So to give an example, our Central TV - somewhat illogical.
I was just in the last TH in Turkey, so there is generally all of the games shown on their regular channels, no matter whether Turkey played or Turkey. We have, on regular TV, only Sports(although in Moskve there are still 7TV), which is simply not spravlyaetsya with all interests, and can not show free basketball. It is still good that they began to show some NBA. And the rest canal just put on sporting events, facilities another.
That's why our TV is not very tempting to watch