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Wild Rider 07.04.20 12:06 pm

Second Korean war?

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1)the Probability of war. The cause of the war, who benefit from it. Consequences.
2)news on this topic.
3)Methods of warfare. Specialists in the military sphere, in the field of armaments (if such there are, yeah) are welcome. It is recommended to give links to various online resources, some stemen some examples of past wars as the argument.
from 16.04.2017 14:30

Media: DPRK for the first time Hackers attacked military of South Korea
Prior to this, Pyongyang has repeatedly accused of breaking into databases of banks and media in South Korea, the military became the object of attack from the North first noted by the press in Seoul.
The hackers were able to steal from the city center, created to counter the cyber threat, a kind of classified information, reports BBC News.
http://www.rosbalt.ru/world/2016/12/06/1573253.html
North Korea was suspected of producing a small nuclear warhead
http://tvoygorodpskov.ru/2016/12/371156-kndr-podozrevali-v-proizvodstve-malenkogo-yadernogo.html
In Primorye has stopped the export to the DPRK of threads for bullet-proof vests
https://rg.ru/2016/12/07/reg-dfo/v-kndr-iz-primoria-hoteli-vyvezti-niti-dlia-proizvodstva-bronezhiletov. html (link broken, the whole Pagac does not pass through Google strikes)
The UN security Council imposed new sanctions against the DPRK
The purpose of restrictive measures was announced reduction of the income of Pyongyang from exporting natural resources. In particular, 60 per cent reduced the purchase of coal in North Korea (the total income of DPRK from its sale should not exceed $ 400 million annually), and the purchase of statues, as well as copper, Nickel, silver and zinc. The decision was taken unanimously.
https://lenta.ru/news/2016/11/30/hey_kim/
The South Korean Parliament impeached the country's President
The reason for the impeachment was the largest corruption scandal, Park Geun-Hye and her longtime friend Choi sung-SIL. It is alleged that the woman used his connections for personal gain, and even interfered in the Affairs of state with the connivance of the President and its administration.
https://ria.ru/world/20161209/1483190596.html
I think that the Korean powder keg will explode (maybe next year), Kim Jong Yne such issues not to solve by diplomatic means. Now, here it is - a romp and prepare for war amid the political crisis in South Korea. Your opinion?
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FoXtrot777 07.04.20

Come to think of it, the Soviet Union and the United States at the time rivet a bunch of nuclear weapons, and then sat in the UN security Council and now decide for all the other countries who have nuclear weapons and who not to have. By and large, the whole pain in the ass that we have on the planet today is the result of the confrontation of the USSR (now Russia) and USA. So if we want to force someone to abandon nuclear weapons, we must first himself to abandon it, and then teach others.

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saa0891 07.04.20

FoXtrot777 wrote:
Come to think of it, the Soviet Union and the United States at the time rivet a bunch of nuclear weapons, and then sat in the UN security Council and now decide for all the other countries who have nuclear weapons and who not to have. By and large, the whole pain in the ass that we have on the planet today is the result of the confrontation of the USSR (now Russia) and USA.
And rightly so,because there should be a mechanism and at least some control over such weapons that could destroy all of humanity in General (just imagine what would happen if there will not be any control),and another thing that US policy on the destruction disagree with its imposition of all things,just push the country on any measure of protection.I don't even know what they were doing to US if it were not for Russia,would already all under the hammer empty,and the justification and motivation is reminiscent of what the degenerates.

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Wing42 07.04.20

FoXtrot777
Nuclear weapons are simultaneously the most destructive force on Earth, and the guarantor of the notorious evil world that is better than a good war.

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A.Soldier of Light 07.04.20

FoXtrot777 wrote:
Come to think of it, the Soviet Union and the United States at the time rivet a bunch of nuclear weapons, and then sat in the UN security Council and now decide for all the other countries who have nuclear weapons and who not to have.
Bad decide, if you think about it. It would be logical then, that nuclear remains in only two countries, the rest of a complete ban, including China and Korea.

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Vanya Rygalov 07.04.20

The DPRK like a rain cloud in the clear sky of Southeast Asia. USA kindly provides the umbrella to countries in the region that can protect them from the unpredictable rain clouds. If you remove the sky this cloud of Korea (DPRK) as the source of rain, and the need in the umbrella will naturally fall away...
By the way, the cloud is fully aware of its role rain... threats. And behaves accordingly - sometimes shaking the air with thunder and lightning, reminding their neighbors about the need for the American umbrella...

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requiemmm 07.04.20

For a good, Puffy would just sell the\lease, normal flying missiles below him overseas chavs behind finally. Let a few pieces, but they flew. An armed society is a polite society, this applies to countries as a whole.

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A.Soldier of Light 07.04.20

Vanya Rygalov wrote:
By the way, the cloud is fully aware of its role rain... threats. And behaves accordingly - sometimes shaking the air with thunder and lightning, reminding their neighbors about the need for the American umbrella...
And what the Russian umbrella worse / not satisfied? 8)
Why everywhere you look, everywhere is drawn scheme if you are not for US, for Russia (and Vice versa) ?

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Vanya Rygalov 07.04.20

A. Soldier of Light wrote:
And what the Russian umbrella worse / not satisfied? 8)
It is not worse and not better. Just don't offer it, because...
Conflict of umbrellas because their use is fraught with consequences, which themselves umbrellas are not very want.
A. Soldier of Light wrote:
Why everywhere you look,everywhere is drawn scheme if you are not for US, for Russia (and Vice versa) ?
Heh, heh... Wherever you look? Well, let's look at China. China... China?

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kile[Naturalnyy bolnoy na 07.04.20

I fully support the war. The North Korean people need to release.

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Mr.Rifleman 07.04.20

I sincerely hope that the Koreans sank the fucking ships.
I don't want to with North Korea, the same that happened in Russia in the 90s, after the collapse of the Union.

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the endless misanthropy o 07.04.20

War is beneficial to all people, not trusting the crazy dictators. Would be at the helm of North Korea funny old man like Brezhnev - and to hell with them, but this fellow is clearly not adequate.

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kile[Naturalnyy bolnoy na 07.04.20

Mr.Rifleman
I don't want to with North Korea, the same that happened in Russia in the 90s, after the collapse of the Union.
Lol, it's worse than we had in 91.

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Marshal Talyan MakKirbi I 07.04.20

I wouldn't count on the fact that chubby or in other countries some real aggressive steps taken by each against the other which mainstream war. If Kim starts to kink and will provoke a conflict, due to the presence of Yao for him, no one to stand up. He understands it better than others.
The main potential defender of the DPRK in case of conflict is China. Remember, when a squadron of US had moved to Korea? After the meeting, trump and Jinping. If China was against ships, then trump would with high probability the ships would not be sent. But once the ships went, then agreed. Another potential guarantor of the DPRK is Putin. But if you decide fat to bring down and begin a military operation against the leadership of the DPRK, the maximum that will be enough for Putin's statements at the UN, laying a veto on various projects, etc. As the Soviet Union, present Russia with a new Korean conflict show itself can't. Too enormous differences between military and economic power of the Soviet Union and the Russian Federation. Donbass and Syria is the limit. Participation in yet another conflict we cannot afford. And most importantly, why will not there is not something serious is the presence of nuclear weapons in North Korea. The DPRK it will not apply, because then they will end - they understand it. In North Korea, or who do not climb, because everyone understands that this will provoke the DPRK on the use of nuclear weapons. That is such a draw.

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A.Soldier of Light 07.04.20

kile[Natural sick all over the country one such] wrote:
I fully support the war. The North Korean people need to release.
For the war = the aggressor. You are the aggressor? And when you consider what a war in North Korea... Oh yeah.. I am afraid that after the war there will be no one to release ) would You even think a little...

kile[Natural sick all over the country one such] wrote:
Lol, it's worse than we had in 91.
In a sense, Yes. And now there is the same. What's bad: the absence of a right of choice for a wide range of issues. Very wide ) From the opportunity to watch any channel on TV to the food selection. Sometimes even the blinds/curtains could not close the Windows. For us life in North Korea - the horror and the nightmare, no doubt.

Vanya Rygalov wrote:
Well, let's look at China
Let's look at any superpower. Who in the world are now in fact three: the US, Russia and China. China itself is, you said, that's fine. To look no longer need in our question 8)

the endless misanthropy of the black cosmos wrote:
but this fellow is clearly not adequate.
Yet nothing inappropriate, he did not.

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Wild Rider 07.04.20

http://forums.playground.ru/talk/society/vtoraya_korejskaya_vojna-923288/#comment-16236276
Wild Rider wrote:
I think it will be another flare in the 2-3 months that it'll be a hot phase.
The President of South Korea invited the DPRK to establish a joint team to the Olympics in 2018
https://lenta.ru/news/2017/06/24/southandnorth/
North Korea has refused to make a joint team with South Korea at the Olympics-2018
https://www.championat.com/other/news-2837554-kndr-otkazalas-vystupit-sovmestnoj-komandoj-s-juzhnoj-koreej-na-oi-2018.html
The President of South Korea gave North Korea one last chance to begin negotiations
https://lenta.ru/news/2017/07/03/last_chance/
KEK. Nice try, mun, Jane. And all this against the backdrop of the sad news of the death of Otto Warmbier...

Trump said on bursting of patience toward North Korea
http://www.rbc.ru/politics/30/06/2017/59567b199a79472df7a8d505
North Korea has boasted the ability to strike anywhere in the world
http://www.rbc.ru/rbcfreenews/5959dfa89a794739fa2bd458
Here, in my opinion, and no expert obviously, if North Korea does not make concessions, the war can not be avoided.

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Wild Rider 07.04.20

August will be hot
The media learned about the successful creation of the DPRK nuclear warheads for missiles
More information on the RBC:
http://www.rbc.ru/politics/09/08/2017/598a70c79a7947a59b341ac6
DPRK said that at any moment could strike at the U.S. base on GUAM
https://ria.ru/world/20170809/1500038999.html
Trump has threatened North Korea unprecedented fire and fury
http://www.bbc.com/russian/news-40870637

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Kovboy belomor 07.04.20

Well the Yankees get another Vietnam.

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Wing42 07.04.20

the killer of the Anglo-Saxons
There the people will perish. A policy which the other set will remain intact.

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Kovboy belomor 07.04.20

Wing42 America is what it is,a sort of modern Roman Empire.And yet they are confident that they're safe in the ocean,they will destroy anything and everything that they don't like.If the Koreans manage to make a rocket capable of reaching the United States will not be war.But if the Yankees make a successful missile defense we shall die.Immediately they no doubt will. And you should know by now,the Yankees don't care about where and how many people will die until it's in their territory.Yugoslavia,Iraq,Libya,Syria.And if they will add us to this list, their happiness will know no bounds.I don't remember exactly whether Albright then anyone else from the chosen nation spoke openly.how not fair that these pigs Russian control over Siberia all the riches. We have to learn how to control the wealth of Siberia and the far East, we will not be equal.But alas while our bureaucrats only know how to steal.Mother told me that at the age of 15 went to work as a housekeeper in the house of a Director of a factory do not remember exactly,it was in 1958.Well, this Director took on major theft.The result of 15 years and confiscation of all assets, not just him.My wife,Tiffany, all the relatives came.Brutally tell? And I say harshly,but correctly.

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LenivyiBob 07.04.20

Hmpf...
North Korea will try to carry - USA(Trump) need a victorious war, the campaign in Mosul a little, or trump demolished, the impeachment of all the cases. Logistics is already working, tanks are flying/floating. The word on the NATO front is also riding technique of Pindos.
China is not a joke to have such a uncontrolled neighbor to the North, the South, India and Pakistan need to control. (All have nuclear weapons and resentment)
And th RF? A niche. The UN will yell. DV under strict control. Not before. NATO left barks.
IMHO, the hot phase of the Finance project debt on loans to Large Banks of"Big Makhach - double 3 is not far off.
Strictly IMHO.