Flight to Mars
The head of the company SpaceX, an American businessman Elon Musk announced the possibility of human flight to Mars by 2025. The words of the entrepreneur, as reported by Fox News, came during a speech at an investment forum in Hong Kong.If we talk about the first flights to Mars, we hope to do it around the years 2020-2025, after about nine years," said Musk on a question of participants of the forum on the first manned SpaceX mission. The businessman stressed that nine years is enough for a training flight. http://lenta.ru/news/2016/01/30/mars/
Not to be confused with Mars One. Mars One — private project, led by Bas Lansdorp and involving a flight to Mars with the subsequent Foundation of the colony on its surface and broadcast all events on television. Adventure mission to Mars in one direction without returning back.
Elon Musk deals with real things. His company has developed the launch vehicles Falcon 1 and Falcon 9 from the beginning in order to make them reusable, and the Dragon spacecraft (to orbit the same Falcon 9), designed to resupply the International space station. He has already made the return to earth of the first stage - another step towards creating a reusable spacecraft. Step more important than the launch of the Shuttle, which returned only boosters and the manned capsule.
But still nine years to build a ship to fly to Mars ..... advertising or reality?
stalker7162534
How much money you agree to kick in additional tax on space exploration?
I'm against manned space flight (many wrote about it here), so do not propose to spend any hundreds of billions of dollars. The aforementioned "Phobos-Grunt", being a fairly complex machine with a unique mission, cost only 5 billion rubles. Should focus on like AMC. And the construction of a lunar base and missions to Mars are seen as international projects like the ISS, to be attended by a technically developed countries. Speaking of budgets. For example, the creation of infrastructure for world Cup 2022, Qatar will spend 150 billion euros! Something wrong with the priorities of all mankind...
I'd probably fly to Mars. As it is a realization of the meaninglessness of life.
Still would not fly because of instinct.
Want to go to Venus.
stalker7162534
Oh Yes, because since then technology has evolved from the word at all. And the Chinese did just splurge and decided to put together there in the near future base. This flight to the moon requires any technology. Investing in the flight, we also invested in the development of still technology. But in General you're right, you didn't have people to get out of the caves. It's safe, only to sit on a hard had.
here the question is does that what should or should not develop - as far as technically feasible.
I find it difficult to judge how difficult it was for example first voyage around the world but the technology of shipbuilding and vyzhyvanie in the Islands were more or less adequate to this purpose. none know whether they had data on the size of the earth TC they were still counted in the Roman Empire. there's so much more prevailed over the religious factor and the factor of the unknown.
and it is unlikely that the company could make say the Egyptians with their thatched boats without developments in new technologies for this task. to the poet the moon in the short term is more interesting and looking to capture the secret of Hitler's bunker on the reverse side of the moon. there ische possible to build telescopes and radars postivie mine for sugar bomback. and ische there is cratery ancient cometary ice as mercury and there voschem products nykat.
Alexfor
What technologies? How to live in a small house in a vacuum? It may be better to invest in the development of the more pressing technology? Or do you think that people need to live in caves (slow down the development of many technologies) in order to a dozen people sat on the moon and digging with picks those rocks down there?
stalker7162534
In fact, the technologies that are born in the course of space exploration can improve life more than the money saved on the waiver. The classic text about this: http://brights-russia.org/article/society/why-explore-space.html Generally speaking, almost all of the things that make our modern lives comfortable, was created by accident as a byproduct of the development of fundamental science.
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Veenine
It is clear that space technology has allowed us to fry Kuru and do a selfie. But modern society does not care about anything but chickens and selfie. And all because the company refused to ideology. Capitalism, which rests on money and comfort was the form of economic interaction, which is more than all adapted to meet the needs of the people. And so, as people are mostly selfish, that personal security and the security of family is the value so-called happiness. Therefore, the company moved into the satisfaction of personal needs, creating a consumer society and the society of producers (buyers-sellers). And cannot be in this society, no other values except profit and to prove this benefit can be not a fiery speech, not a book or article, not a thesis, and not even sensational research results and the business plan.
Perhaps in another society where the people in power, having faith, followed by people having faith even 70 years ago was space plans beyond the ambitions modern, but it was destroyed in the name of peace and equality. In peace and equality we live.
stalker7162534
really, compact appliances useless, and do not need the ways to reuse waste. Talking about such a humble and useless things like houses made of new insulating materials, new ways of growing plants in soil moisture deficit conditions, relationships in isolated small groups. Of course all these things are irrelevant. Let's spend it on something more important *there should be legkousvaivaemyh any opinion on what to put the money*.
Ah Yes, poor unfortunate people, pecking picks rocks on Mars and learned in the process the composition of the Martian minerals. Of course this is not necessary for future Martian settlement, for why 7 billion people some other planet?
the endless misanthropy of the black cosmos
the benefits are already planned - the asteroids nonferrous metal. This what is there helium on the moon. Is that always you can find any other way to spend a lot of money.
Alexfor
The meat grinder was invented for space flight? And who came up with a new way of growing plants?
why 7 billion people some other planet?
http://znanija.com/task/6559908 Why most people live on 8% of the land area?
Do you seriously think that you can smuggle at least a billion people to Mars? in the next hundred years?
PS do Not tell mining of non-ferrous metals on asteroids.))))))))
Veenine
A classic text about this
went to the link - Every year about a thousand technical innovations that originated in the space program find application in terrestrial technology, giving us advanced kitchen appliances and agricultural equipment, sewing machines
And the question IS WHAT NAFIG SEWING MACHINE made in new technology? What technology specifically came from the developments of the space programs?
There are the specifics? or just blah blah blah.
the endless misanthropy of the black cosmos
To live we must eat, dress, have a roof over my head. So you have to consume. And produce all this. This is natural and there is nothing judgmental.
And do not about ideology, about capitalism. Socialism, revolution - all in order to eat more.
Human society has always been, and always will be a society of producers and consumers. And it did not stop people to have different ideologies and have a variety of values.
stalker7162534
Satellites, the Internet, TV, sat NAV, it was developed separately? Not with the space program?
stalker7162534
The grinder is not, and Teflon - Yes. I think if you research the terraforming process come up with new technologies for breeding and reproduction of the crop indoors.
the endless misanthropy of the black cosmos
The grinder there, and a Teflon - Yes.
Polytetrafluoroethylene was opened in April 1938, the 27-year-old scientist-chemist Roy Plunkett[1][2] of Kinetic Chemicals company, which accidentally discovered that they pumped into the cylinders under pressure of gaseous tetrafluoroethylene had spontaneously cured in paraffinotherapy white powder[3][4]. In 1941 the company Kinetic Chemicals was granted patent for Teflon, and in 1949 it became a subsidiary of the us company DuPont.
Russia
Deal with the question what technology is suitable for use on Earth, appeared in the process of developing space rockets. Internet TV was developed without any connection with space exploration. Of course GPS works through satellites. But GPS technology developed specifically, and she arose in the process of developing space programs.