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william1992 30.07.20 01:03 am

The state and the citizen

Guys, more and more begin to ponder the question why do we even have the power of the state
Here we take for example me:
My parents built a house where they live and I lived for a time.
-The school constantly money to bring in needed: repair class, repair schools, teachers in the DR
At the University I studied under the contract.
all of the works on which I worked 28ми to his years in private firms.
housing able to sustain itself
-any medical examination or going to the hospital anyway paid. In the end enrolled in private clinic.
-about how working with us law enforcement, I think is unnecessary. Although, there is a story: once my father in the yard broke a window in the machine and pulled the papers. The father called the police, where he said well if you find the offender, we hold up and even to come did not.

Actually the question - why do I pay taxes? What's the point for me????
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z8TiREX8z 01.02.21

Nexus Camping
you have seen enough telly than my grandmother)))

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william1992 01.02.21

z8TiREX8z
Yes, the state does not need me anyway , only my money

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Playshner 01.02.21

St. Pirer ... Photo: Associated Press.
Pissed so that no one threw the plastic cup ...

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Listoman 01.02.21

So that you don't get thrown over a piece of bread in broad daylight)

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Denis Kyokushin 04.07.21

A.Soldier of Light
A.Soldier of Light wrote:
4. Health security of citizens through the healthcare system.
Smishno. Rather, at the expense of those same citizens. There are no free operations in the Russian Federation. Unofficially, you will still pay
A. Soldier of Light wrote:
5. Security of citizens from criminals by isolating the latter in prisons, etc.
Real criminals are in the State Duma)

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Nexus 23.07.21

z8TiREX8z
No, you are just a kremlebot and you have a bomb.

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Sweety_Mustard 23.07.21

There was no state in the 90s. Practically. And I have not yet met healthy people who want to return there.
Nexus
How are things at KVN? Are the contests interesting?

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No_time_for_gaming 23.07.21

Sweety_Mustard
in the 90s was not a normal state as it is now

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darkspacesteel 23.07.21

A.Soldier of Light
Yes, the state will do everything for you.

Sweety_Mustard
There was no state in the 90s, so no one mowed the grass near the house. Now the state exists, so everyone now has the obligation to mow the grass near their home and on their personal plot. In order to prevent the spread of weed seeds and weeds.

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darkspacesteel 23.07.21

Denis Kyokushin
Why unofficial? Officially. Here in 2011, the door to the garage in winter froze so that it could not be opened with a key at all. We called the Emergencies Ministry. They opened it, took 500 rubles for work. What taxes people are talking about is unclear.

william1992
william1992 wrote:
Actually the question is - why should I pay taxes at all? What's the point to me ????
For you, nothing. Tax is your voluntary-compulsory donation to the needy. You're not going to have something from your grandmother in the transition, to whom you gave 50 rubles?

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Sweety_Mustard 23.07.21

darkspacesteel wrote:
they took 500 rubles for the work by
googling, how much it costs in the states to remove a kitten from a tree. I was also pleased with the scene from Breaking Bad, where he tried to jump out of the ambulance, because he had nothing to pay for her services.
Indeed - what kind of taxes are there XD

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darkspacesteel 23.07.21

Sweety_Mustard
Sweety_Mustard wrote:
google how much it costs in the states to remove a kitten from a tree.
What does the states have to do with it? We had socialism, where money was unacceptable. Or did we not have it?
Or this one here. I bought a voltage relay - the electrician refused to install it. Like, hire an electrician for such nonsense. What do you mean refused? Hired, paid, delivered, works. Sometimes only during a thunderstorm when lightning strikes (in a neighboring building, for example), the light cuts out - protection from the drop is triggered. So the cop will refuse to protect you. If an electrician can, then why can't a cop? Well, if there is a show-off or some kind of nonsense? And in general, the cops work in fact. Which still needs to be fixed in order to prove. Or if "no one has this anywhere" - this is another explanation. But in the notorious EU there are, after all, which are referred to by all sorts of them from the TV? Now, this explanation doesn’t work for you. As in the EU there. And for some reason it works for them. Because they are power, and you are not. Ordinary Soviet automatic machines, please.

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Sweety_Mustard 23.07.21

darkspacesteel wrote:
If an electrician can, then why can't a cop
because an electrician ensures the network is operational only to your door (he is just an electrician at a ridiculous percentage of your salary and is not obliged to repair the wiring in someone's thread of a 10-storey cottage, but the rules are needed set the same for all).
The states, despite the fact that there you pay the real cost of removing a kitten from a tree / cutting a door - not 500 rubles - and heck, people there also pay taxes.

The cops work great - it's easy to check. It is enough to commit a serious crime. One example - an acquaintance disappeared, a month later she was found, a year later she was identified - burnt and in a ditch. Guess who found and imprisoned the animal that killed her?
Now imagine that the cops stopped working - the animals will start killing, because you looked askance, because you laughed, because your jacket is more expensive than the animal's - beauty XD Who will stop them - people? People will shoot a video of the Azaz on their smartphone, they ripped off the horseradish and shoved it into the throat of the Azaz to watch the Dakanese.

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darkspacesteel 23.07.21

Sweety_Mustard
Sweety_Mustard wrote:
because the electrician ensures that the network is up to your door only.
Nothing like this. We invited an electrician to replace the burnt out Soviet machine gun over the meter in our apartment, he offered to replace all of them, we went, bought, and he replaced all of them for free. Since it is on the state balance sheet. I wrote about it.
It's just that, according to the new rules, the meter should not be in the apartment. And theoretically, all this should be in the dashboard at the entrance. Like new homes. But a voltage relay for 2,000 rubles with an RCD (residual current device) for 2,000 rubles, are you going to put in the entrance in a dashboard that cannot be locked? Since no one has such a thing in the house, and everyone does not care, and no one will lock it up because of you. And the explanation, that they say, in new houses, yes, but in Soviet-built houses, no, it is not needed. Will be constantly cut down. They were so frightened. But in fact, only when struck by lightning during a thunderstorm sometimes knocks down. True, we also replaced the wiring from the dashboard to the apartment with a copper one. Maybe that's why it doesn't work falsely? And this is up to the apartment. As you said. Well, before the branching of the wiring in the apartment in the sense. And in the apartment I’m doing all this myself.
Sweety_Mustard wrote: The
States, despite the fact that there you pay the real cost of removing a kitten from a tree / sawing out a door - not 500 rubles - and damn it, people there also pay taxes.
Well, they didn't cut it to us. They just grinded the key off the key. And with a run, shoulder to the door, shoulder to the door. And they opened it. However, I did not see it. Probably, before arriving there, something was sprinkled into the keyhole unofficially. Since then -40 ° stood for months and did not even climb out. Didn't I hit the door with my shoulder?
Sweety_Mustard wrote: The
cops work great - it's easy to check.
In your opinion, it turns out that come to Russia, obey the laws, and everything will be fine. Only here there are those who do not observe them - the so-called instigators. Which in general will not nifiga for everything, no matter what they do to you. And they force you to respond in kind, and then you are caught breaking the law. So it turns out that you have a violation, but they have no violation. You are committing a crime and they just don't offer to have a relationship. You killed yourself and they just spat in your face. The cops see you, but they don't seem to notice.
Do you think Russian laws are so difficult to comply with? Or Islam of the same. What, no one can? Absolutely not the point. Violation of laws starts to come not on your part. On the other hand, and because you are not offered to have a relationship. They do not want to have them with you in any form. Although in fact this is a crime, it is simply interpreted from their side in a different way than you would interpret it if it came from you.

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Sweety_Mustard 23.07.21

darkspacesteel wrote:
In your opinion , it turns out that come to Russia, obey the laws, and everything will be fine.
I did not idealize them - I just wrote that they work and are good. Even if the perpetrator of the crime just sits on treason, fearing that he will be caught.

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darkspacesteel 23.07.21

Sweety_Mustard
Well, if he becomes your neighbor on the vestibule , having bought an apartment from his neighbors, this will not be a violation of the laws, will it? Here. And you have to leave. Not him. Because the relationship. Which society does not want to have with you, clearly demonstrating this to you. Which are also there. And which also work.

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Believer1 29.09.21

By the way, here's an article about how different incidents go to some karpatnews.in.ua, for some money ... This should not be!
Compliance with laws is in Denmark, the quietest option in the world!

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Magmaman 28.10.21

Believer1
Yes, they only recently changed their colors, but they probably forgot their ass.