Krivosoft and Pindous 10
IntroBefore you put another herd minus number 17 to this post of mine and plus the comment that follows it, read the highlighted conclusions of my post at the very bottom after the line and think, about school user PG, are you a sheep that you are minus a post, not Reading, and you consider yourself a genius, and I am curved only because your hardware and software were supported by microsoftware, but hardware and software of hundreds and thousands of other people on the planet - no? And without any explanation, warning and proper support from the developers ...
The story that caused the herd bathert or how it all began.
Let me tell you a story, guys, about how today I twice tried to upgrade my licensed, activated 7 Home Basic 64x to 10.
It all started with the fact that no update icon, of course, appeared in my taskbar, although the update was reserved.
I had to download a file for a forced update (or a clean installation) from the Mikrokhvost website. I can say right away that forget the tales about 15-30 minutes for an update, this is not the case, everything is much closer to 50-60.
So, it was downloaded, therefore, this squalor and asked me what I want to leave after the update? Naturally, I left everything and long waiting screens began, where they then checked for updates, then my system, then they figured out themselves which version of the axis to give me. In short, after all these waiting, checking and finding out that my hardware is suitable, and there is enough space on the screw, the installation itself began, which, yes, as promised, took about 15-20 minutes on a far from powerful Samsung laptop with i3. 6GB of RAM and no SSD.
After installation, the pindous rebooted, showed a new bluish logo and hung like a dead sleep without hard disk activity. After waiting 5 minutes, I made a hard reset and saw the following:
If someone can't see it, then: "
0xc1900101 - 0x20017
Error at the Safe_OS installation stage during the Boot operation "
And Windows rolled back to the previous 7, with the only difference that out of 40GB of free space I have exactly 15 and a new section" Reserved by the system "with a volume of 100 megabytes appeared in the list of disks, which usually seen from special programs and the administrative control panel of vindoza.Well to
do, I decided that it was not enough, maybe I waited and I had to wait not 5 minutes, but 10 (maybe that's why they called Windows that 10 minutes at the start the screw does not burn, I looked for the installation of Windows on the screw - I did not find it, I launched the MediaCreationToolx64 utility again and the utility, its mother, started downloading all the files again ... well, but you can go to have lunch ...
In general, I will not stretch any more, but I will say that the second time everything was the same, only now there was 11.9 free space, and after deleting a couple of explicit Herkosoft folders with a mention of the bloody Vindetta, it returned only to 20.4, but not up to 40.2, that is, these cripples cannot even rollback their own system, and I myself had to take care of creating an image before installing or creating a restore point! Consider this, colleagues, when you put this obscenity ...
In conclusion, I just want to ask the question: "What the hell have you been doing there since last fall and what did you test there, poor ones?" When Gates was at the helm, I don't remember such a mess and the support service worked perfectly, and all such errors were on their website. Now, when you clicked on "Troubleshooting Tips", which you can see in the screenshot above, I was sent here - http://windows.microsoft.com/ru-ru/windows-10/go-back-to-your- previous-version-of-windows is very informative, isn't it?
My question is rhetorical and, of course, does not require an answer, because my answer to this software manufacturer is now the same: pirate!
Though I was going to buy the Pro on my main PC. Once again we were convinced that before the current stability, optimization and attitude towards the Mac Axis user, they are like the Moon, even when compared with the old Barsik 10.6.8, which I had on my Mac Pro workstation of the first edition ...
PS Now it will begin stacks of comments about the ban in Google and my crooked hands, which for some reason installed and configured hundreds of Windows, starting from 3.11, but I will immediately answer them: Why didn't Pinda warn me in advance that my software and hardware are so unique, which do not fit and should I google for crutches? And, what pissed me off even more, to hell with her with a 10-ka, why is the rollback normal to 7-ku not performed by the standard OS tools? Finish and defeat, I said everything.
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PS For those who are too lazy to read the comments and ponder, I bring a conclusion here too:
The reasons for this error:
1) conflict with third-party security software, Kaspersky is precisely confirmed, Dr. Web, Outpost Firewall Pro .... that is, remove such software before updating, if you receive this error, the advice is now official from the support:
2) If you have a Samsung laptop, then the problem is guaranteed in the Wi-Fi module, which must be disabled before the first start of Windows, whether it will be possible to turn it on later - it is still unknown, the whole world understands, the support gives advice and also understands it. Also, similar problems have already surfaced on individual HP, Lenovo and Sony.
3) Microsoft support is also advised to chop off the network card.
"The problem is that non-users have to look for these conflicting sys files, for example, from Kaspersky (48134166.sys), or, in my case, from the licensed Outpost Firewall Pro, and the Windows itself should have warned about incompatibility at the check stage or at startup, report that this file is conflicting and remove the process from startup, or in extreme cases, BSOD should have thrown it out, as it had thrown it all my life in such cases! That's what the whole point is, and not in the "crooked hands" with which everything here is so they like to scatter about and without ... "
ADDED after the third installation attempt.
The problem is that the T-shirts have something to do with the distribution, since there are users who had 10 at the initial stages of testing, and now they knock out this error.
I am quoting a person from another forum who solved this problem: "I suspect that due to the fact that Samsung has abandoned the production of laptops, the small ones in Win10 cut out support for some special configurations of Samsung laptops. I noticed that the file with the C: Windows system configs. Inf machine.ini on Windows 8.1 is 3 times larger in size than in Win 10. Looks like they cut specifically support for many devices. "
And here's another interesting comment: "If 8.1 works quietly, then 10 have exactly the same system requirements. But what they got there with hardware support, only Indians know that they are picking the window code."
ADDED after the fourth attempt to install from a USB stick from scratch
Disabling the wi-fi with the button did not help, I have no disconnection in BIOS, so I have to unscrew the hardware, as they said on the Microsoft website, because well, fuck them - I won't suffer this nonsense anymore and I'll wait for normal patches in a few months!
Thank you all, the topic is closed, I will not delete it, because the search for
"0xc1900101 - 0x20017
An error during the installation of Safe_OS during the Boot operation" is
guaranteed to lead here ...
...
Do you still consider me a crooked noob, and not beta testers ?? ? Then congratulations, you = shkolota.
Semyon Slizsky
You are not, but your post is completely out of topic ... The essence of this post is just in UPDATE. The simplest example of installation on a bare HDD from the media is not considered here))) And the error is said that occurs during the UPDATE))) For example, why am I the owner of 7 wines with a reserved 10th should put a clean version and then obsolete dances with a tambourine around activation? I need it
Semyon Slizsky
"Well, what can I say ... you can't expect constant stability from Windows and hope for an easy update ... any Windows user with more than a year's experience knows this.
And it's not about licks or pirates, but that .. .
1 - Updating is always GEMMOROY, the surest way is to put shindovs on a hard-formatted partition.
2 - Yes, here the author also wanted to update with SAVING OLD PROGRAMS AND DATA .. it immediately threatens epic troubles. "
- yes, I understand this perfectly and I myself have always been against updates and always discouraged everyone, because in my memory there are no completely normal Windows updates with all the settings, but here I won over what many wrote yesterday, how easy it was to update and all the software, games remained and even many settings. They said that the new level is just an upgrade. I understand that everything would be perfect from scratch, but from scratch on the laptop it is still possible, there are not many games there, there is almost no software left, except for Photoshop and a couple of utilities, but on the main PC I would not even want to - how will I present that amount of software to reinstall and re-configure, this is again for 2-3 days :-(
"Windows, she even updated her for 7, I remember the brain hovered when all sorts of packages and other crap were put for 2 hours with three reboots and repeated installation manually.
I myself updated with problems - at first I did not get up, rollback, then I refused to save the prog, the norms got up, there was no network, I put firewood on the network exactly three times, it only worked when I refused to reboot, fiddled, then rebooted twice and flooded.
Like hemorrhoids, right? But my farts are not burning, this is an update, with it constantly gemmorrhoids should be.
But I put the spare axle in place, so even if my hands were out of the back and could not update normally, I would simply score and re-install 7. I'm not crazy to put the update on a working system. "
- Yes, I was constantly updating it, I remember. But here, you know, the farts are burning not because of what did not work out, but because the Microsoft support about the code of this error stupidly froze and sent it to the old topic, to which I gave a link above. That is, the support also, in other words, advised to remove all the software altogether, consider putting the system from scratch, but why then say that it is possible to update with the preservation of all user data and offer this option when choosing an installation? Would write immediately in parentheses, as happens, "Not recommended!" But the reason for the complete fire was not even this, but the fact that it rolled back through the ass, that is, stupidly 20 hectares for 3 installations ate! Right now, I was cleaning a bunch of folders, updates and rates in the system with my hands, so what for? And he didn't return the whole place! I would know that it will be so I would have created an image in advance. That's what I would like to warn the readers of this topic) And yes, I'm not crazy either, so I tried to put it on the laptop, and not on a working PC)))
RazDvaTre
Yesterday I read one correspondence with a support on 3Dnews - it's just laughter, they have one answer for everything, along the way.
djjack
Well, the fact that there are no IT gods sitting in the call center and support by e-mail has long been known. There are knowledgeable people, yes, but this is not a support for the townsfolk. And I can't even imagine what is going on with them these days, if they said that, according to their own estimates, they had reserved 10 ku about a billion people. )))
PS: earlier (about 5 years ago) I hung up on 3Dnews. Nice portal and forum.
Semyon Slizsky
Surely the problem can be solved, when I didn't get up for the first time and then there was no network, I didn't google it ... I DIDN'T CREATE SEVERAL THEMES ON THE FORUM (because it is useless, like this topic), but I thought with my head a little .So it seems more effective.
- well, FIG knows. I thought with my head and understood perfectly that there was a compatibility error with software or hardware, as it always was, but Windows wrote only an error code without a problematic file, without appcrashes and BSODs. And according to the error code, the support answered after I created this topic with an opinion and a search for similar problems. Another thing is that this answer did not help anything! And now there are 2 options: either set everything from scratch, or wait until the craftsmen, as usual, do the work of the T-shirts and find solutions by typing, and they will release a patch.
I repeat, on a laptop I would carry out a clean installation easily, but on a computer I really would not want it, but I would like normal support if I give $ 220 for Windows, and guarantees with a refund if it does not work ...
RazDvaTre
I still hang on 3Dnews, and, approximately, since 2001, I have been sitting on the trunk (ixbt), but to discuss games and patches, after the death of AG.RU, I always came here) To discuss software here, as it turned out, was a mistake decision :-)
SonyK.
I just have an option to make from 7ki not quite faces, 10k faces. And the second licensed 7ka I have for work. Let him live.
djjack
SpoilerAnd I still don't understand that with AG ru ... there seems to be a portal not alive and not dead, but you can see that its funding has stopped
SonyK.
"Everyone's software is different, and you fell for PR - the fact that the small ones advised you to rearrange Windows" from scratch "directly says that they do not care about your problems."
- yeah, just got caught, I already thought so myself, although they repeatedly focused their attention and highlighted in bold that the update will now be a new generation and everything will be saved easily and simply :-(
"Well, at least I didn't screw up here - well, why in the 1st day to change what worked for you before?
I can understand if someone hopes to get a performance boost in games using DX12, but if you are also working on your computer - what's the point? "
- well, I was waiting for her, in fact, precisely for the sake of Direct X 12. The point is that yes, I also play on my computer, the second screw for games is, and the hardware is such that Direct X 12 can give a second life. It is clear that now it is too early to update the main machine, since many will introduce support for DH12 only in October, but for the time being, for curiosity, I wanted to study the system on a laptop and purchase it on a PC in advance, if everything turns out to be updated smoothly. You can, of course, minus, but I wanted to buy a license, because I understood that I was buying for years, but the computer was still working ...
Semyon Slizsky
Well, the problem file is not indicated there, most likely because it is a temporary or bootable file that was deleted after the conflict.
- if the conflicting file was deleted, it would probably be better. And even better - if asked in the dialog box)
"I had a BOOT error at all during the SECOND BOOT procedure, googling did not help.
And the firewood for the network is generally notable, no one would help here at all - firewood for wines 10, installation - problems with the driver, no access to the Internet - it was not possible to eliminate, repeat - an old version of drivers was found, removal-installation - the network is limited - no Internet access, there may be a problem with the driver - could not be fixed - contact a friend. LOL. And so on in a circle, until I canceled the reboot to continue the installation and inserted three driver only system files downloaded from the motherboard manufacturer's website.
It's hot. Well, in order for a support or a troubleshooter to help, this has never been in my memory at all, even the system is correctly restored from a reserve one time later, and more often it starts to fail after that, it's microsoft.
here at least it rolls back successfully, this is already an achievement for them. "
- yeah, about a friend of a lol, but about achieving a rollback - just to the point)))
Here is my mistake closer, I do not have a second boot, but I already see such screenshots even on American sites, so I hope for a quick solution to the problem -
RazDvaTre
"And I still did not understand that with AG ru ... there seems to be a portal not alive and not dead, but you can see that its funding has stopped"
- there once almost the entire composition of reviewers had a fight with the new owners, left and Ryot Pixels opened its own portal, and they recruited shkolota in their places, who wrote and write such reviews that users ran through other portals.
SonyK.
"It's not easier to wait for DX12 games to start doing + errors will be fixed + activators will appear.
What will 10 give you now?"
- and now we could just get used to it, rebuild everything, check the software for compatibility and look for analogies. In general, they could prepare mentally, so that later not in one day sharply)))
RazDvaTre,
if memory serves, then The Witcher 3 Wild Hunt with DX12 support
has not yet been implemented, but it will be one of the first, like. I myself, first of all, think about it))) Whoever says anything, but the game is masterpiece. Passed in the first week and next time I will go with dopas to DH 12)
SonyK.
"Well, get used to it ...: D
During the test, I installed the TP version for myself - to test it.
I tried it - I realized that I don't need it yet.
By the end of the year, I'll see - you will see that games will appear under the new Direct and some of the errors will be corrected ... "
- That's right, I also wrote above in the comments that I will postpone this entire update for October, probably)
SonyK.
I install the OS not only from DX 12, it needs to be screwed up first, then cleaned, then demolished. and everything in a circle)) As I said, I put it because I had it reserved and I was hoping that everything would go smoothly, but everything worked out as always.
And to put a clean version, thank you ... I will break again, look for products from Adobe, etc.
You
won't believe Semyon Slizsky , colleague, I have Samsung, but I took a picture with a specialist so that it could be seen) And the support of the T-shirts also wrote that if you have a PC, then pull out the wi-fi! So, should I physically cut it off, or will a button on the face be enough?
By the way, I just read in another place that it is recommended to delete the video card driver before updating the driver, but I will already experiment with the right mood, now my wife is watching a movie there)))
UPD. Damn, so how can you guess that the problem is the incompatibility of the Wi-Fi module? Well, this is only by the method of numerous trial and error, and there can be no talk of any crooked hands ...
yes, it was also, 4 times, the whole day was spent on it, then I downloaded the image and wrote it down on a USB flash drive and updated from under the BIOS, it was not clean on top of 7ki. All the rules passed. Activation license, not pirate anything like that.
djjack
and what, disable the Wi-FI module through the BIOS will not work? I think it should work. It is not necessary to remove firewood, just cut off the ATI or Nvida application from the download and then unload the process through msconfig - services.
RazDvaTre
oh, to be honest, I don’t remember if there is a waffle shutdown in the BIOS, but through the FN combination you can cut it off even before the download starts. I'll see how my wife goes to bed. Maybe I'll try again.
Porn Elephant
Yes, she was there too, 4 times, all day was spent on it, then I downloaded the image and wrote it down to a USB flash drive and updated from under the BIOS
- that's how? Well thanks, also an option. There are a couple of flash drives, I'll try it again. I thought to score after the day's reaction, but then the advice poured in a stream and already wanted to try again) Apparently, the schoolchildren went to bed, and competent people came from work, had supper and so the tips flooded))) Thanks again!
Semyon Slizsky GREAT
BLAGODAROCHKA, colleague, now I see that Samsung owners are all over there, now I will study. English is a second language, I communicate at work every day, sometimes more than in Russian, so I'll figure it out)
UPD, They write on the English site that it is set normally after the module is physically disabled, but if you then turn it back on, then Windows does not load, it's a kick , comrades:
"Tested in a RF-410 removing the WLAN card and it works.
But ... once windows is installed and i reinstall the card, windows doesn't boot ..."
Semyon Slizsky
read on the form of small soft on your link, All the advice is good for the most part - but the essence is the same, it is solved by brute force, trial and error ...)))
Disable (preferrably uninstall) your Antivirus utility before attempting the upgrade.
Restart a few times and try again.
Disable General USB Devices (example - Smart Card Reader).
If you are using a SCSI hard disk, make sure you have drivers available for your storage device on a thumdrive and it is connected. During Windows 10 setup, click the Custom Advanced Option and use the Load Driver command to load the appropriate driver for the SCSI drive. If this does not work and setup still fails, consider switching to a IDE based hard disk.
Do a clean boot and try again.
If you are upgrading using the .ISO file, disconnect from the Internet during setup, if you are connected by LAN (Ethernet) or Wi-Fi, disable both and attempt setup again.
If you are updating through Windows Update, when the download reaches 100% disconnect from the Internet LAN (Ethernet) or Wi-Fi and proceed with the installation.
If that does not work, try using the .ISO file to upgrade if possible.
If you are connected to a domain, switch to a local account
If you have any external devices attached to the machine, disconnect them (example, gaming controllers, USB keys, external hard disc, printers, non-essential devices).