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Dogmit 02.11.19 03:32 am

Your attitude to the protest in Yekaterinburg?

Welcome. Question in General such. Properly fed the Russian government, the fact that enforces the spiritual ties with tear gas and MMA fighters? It must be that Russian people have become more spiritual and humble and in the evening instead of the squares went to preaching in the temple?
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nik32wpo 02.11.19

And I've also not clear. Really, in addition to temples, there is nothing more to build?

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requiemmm 02.11.19

The main problem is that they do not build temples, and gilded coffins for faith. Right, old, namelena the Church has a very peculiar aura. It is warm. Not to see it, you must feel it, not show off and ostentatious atheism. Just the kind of place that makes you feel at home, even if you don't believe. And there are always people, nature can not be fooled. The correct choice of location, where converge the flow of energy or something material, form and time. With time, must pass through decades and centuries, these rocks and logs absorb the energy and become something...like a magical artifact. Therefore, the loss of each old Church, a national tragedy. It is irreplaceable, for there are no masters who were able to choose the place and material.
And that is building the ROC is now, without observance of rules of choice of location, just to cram, stuff...well the coffin he coffin, who goes there then? Images for wedding for vBulletin to do with a candle for show to stand up to continue to sin, just coming over the threshold, to put stolen money and the time to plug a conscience...a kind of contingent. Well, in principle it is understandable, well what temple can you build warriors and security officers? Whatever system they obtained a barracks or prison.

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nik32wpo 02.11.19

requiemmm
I agree. ROC is now not common, and only further separates people. For many, this protest was just another hype and it's very sad. I wrote earlier that this protest wormed every scum (in General) and it is a lot of support among the so-called opposition media, bloggers and other. And there is no doubt I that the referendum is something to change the situation.

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WanRoi 02.11.19

SchA would be in 2019 to call atheists:
Spoiler
Spoilers here this clown was elected by the people 0_0
We have that in the country of digital illiteracy? In schools, too, do not recall that EN masse was taught by priests. And many parents, this approach to the development of the personality - does not like. Because the spiritual lessons is the brainwashing, from childhood form obedient slave(the word is servant of God/servant of God) Can such people in the future, affect the economy, scientific-medical sphere, psychological - social activity... In a democratic country people have every right to call the President(and his satikov) the word that he deserves. But spiritual development - no one dares to pronounce the word.

P. S If the citizen of the Russian Federation(the honest taxpayer) is wrong(you can hate swarnamalaya and respect for and acceptance of the 10 commandments, because morality is always) considers himself Atheist - this does not mean that he is an atheist. This means that religion had disappointed him, what religion he sees something quite different:
Spoiler
Спойлерhttp://politsovet.ru/49100-top-10-skandalov-s-uchastiem-rpc.html

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zdrastE 02.11.19

WanRoi wrote:
Because the spiritual lessons is the brainwashing, from childhood form obedient slave(the word is servant of God/servant of God)
WanRoi wrote:
In a democratic country people have every right to call the President(and his satikov) the word that he deserves. But spiritual development - no one dares to pronounce the word.
Spoiler

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Gauguin 02.11.19

WanRoi
WanRoi wrote:
SchA would be in 2019 to call atheists:
SchA would be in 2019 to believe in mysticism and the magic of numbers and to think that the figure is 2019 means something. That would make it clear - in the noble society atheist is always an insult and a disgrace. Even in 2019-om, at least in 3020-om, at least in 5325-Ohm.
WanRoi wrote:
And many parents, this approach to the development of the personality - does not like.
Not like - write on secular ethics (whatever that means).
WanRoi wrote:
from childhood shape obedient slave(the word is servant of God/servant of God)
Grown elephant (from the word elephant - African elephants that live under water).
WanRoi wrote:
Can such people in the future, affect the economy, scientific-medical sphere, psychological - social activity
Quite, though I know that it is not important. However, this will only benefit all these fields.
WanRoi wrote:
In a democratic country
You say that like it's something good.
WanRoi wrote:
P. S If the citizen of the Russian Federation(the honest taxpayer) is wrong(you can hate swarnamalaya and respect for and acceptance of the 10 commandments, because morality is always) considers himself Atheist - this does not mean that he is an atheist. This means that religion had disappointed him, what religion he sees something quite different:
It is impossible to be competent in religious matters and disappointed in religion. And even more, to go into a split from the liberal fairy tales about the financial situation of the clergy .

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Spiny 02.11.19

Live in this city and Chet saw no rallies. Although they may be in the center, and I live on an Uralmash :)

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WanRoi 02.11.19

Gauguin wrote:
WanRoi wrote:
In a democratic country
You say that like it's something good.
You just apparently don't know the essence of the word Democracy?
Pseudo kill citizens, desire to Express their opinion.
Spoiler
Yuri sinelshchikov about the contempt power
Here we have used the term "indecently". This vocabulary involves not obscene and vulgar phrase. Yesterday I delved into the dictionary, and such words found a few hundred — they are very often used by citizens in ordinary speech. Indecently can be expressed in conventional expression, but without the use of swear words. So, if the person wrote something without using foul language, but using indecent words, now to punish him? It's limiting criticism of state authorities. Again, why such a steep administrative penalties? Yesterday my colleagues remembered that disorderly conduct is punishable by a fine up to 1000 rubles, and the Internet is the same — to 100 thousand rubles for the first... Still not clear, why here put the prosecution? They have magnifies the supervision of the investigation and put it in each cell!
Very handy when there is a plan(painted on ten years - but it's not exactly), and performing some tasks - cover. Money leaked, the job is not done. Force majeure officials: the cat gave birth to, the wife gave the Spa, they never answer, have you smoked, what kind of liability from the servants of the people?

I mean that criticism is a reflection of the work done, preliminary results(so to speak) - NO men speaking the truth and telling the authorities the error of their ways - there is no development of the political system. Once again, when the fools will gather for a discussion of the project(industrial, social, educational etc) - shove on the budget, pockets. And since the previous projects were not objectively assessed(for hack no one was arrested, no one was fired, and God forbid not even took away the property!), and try the General and why not. Invent anything stupid, like Rogozin:
SpoilerTechnique is still a technique. And sooner or later it fails. You know that there is a single sample technique, which is absolute reliability. The safety factor of equipment equal to, say, 99 and the comma that there is any interest. Still, these percentages are the cases that will sooner or later happen
And so the numbers just the numbers:
Spoiler last year, the chamber has identified in the Corporation of a violation at 760 billion rubles — a record among ministries and state-owned companies. It was not about the fact that all 760 billion stolen or wasted money. The majority of violations detected by the accounts chamber, the technical (43,6% — violations accounting for 32% of violations in the formation and execution of budgets). On corruption, according to RBC, accounts for only about 2%.
...
Andrei Belousov struck the management of the Corporation with criticism for his inability to earn a living due to the budget and works with little or no profit. In January 2018 the claim "took shape" in concrete figures: the Ministry of Finance has disclosed that the Federal space Agency transferred to the budget in 2017, only 9.5 billion rubles instead of the planned 52,27 billion.
How so, comrade President?
Spoilerhis Education, may not be relevant, but Dmitry Rogozin in six years in the defense industry, much attention has been paid to the development of space activities, in the defense industry, and he is a man quite competent in this field.
quote Vladimir Putin.

Gauguin wrote:
And even more, to go into a split from the liberal fairy tales about the financial situation of the clergy .
Why are fairy tales, if he is the Patriarch mentioned what gave him the plane, the personal plane for flights to other countries - firshtein? To buy a ticket has become so difficult for such officials.

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Nurp 02.11.19

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S wrote: uh... in the city and where you had to be?
In your city rallies against taxes, prices, pension.age.
Therefore, fully support You in the issue that, unfortunately, people are divided every man for himself.

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Sima4 02.11.19

I think that the new temples, and built on the site of the demolished (the remake) there is no Grace. I go to the old carkoski. They warm. And the new will come built Tajik-Uzbek boys who probably spit chew nasvay like something is wrong there. Like and beautiful, and bright. but it's not.

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Gauguin 02.11.19

Quetzalcoatl Vola
Quetzalcoatl Vola wrote:
True is, for example, those who believe that here: www.blagogon.ru/digest/737/ all is correctly written
Tell you a secret - no one thinks, although this is one of my favorite liberally Church articles to refer to it. Some media priests, like Chaplin and Kuraev sometimes (sometimes too...ahem) namekaet head on modernist grounds. The symptoms are different. But to take it as the opinion of the Church and the opinion of Orthodox Christianity is to be not quite adequate and knowledgeable person.
Quetzalcoatl Vola wrote:
And around every corner and Bush consider a threat and conspiracy against the mother Russia Orthodox
This is not a conspiracy, and the usual competition. No need to exaggerate.
Quetzalcoatl Vola wrote:
I believe that churches need hospitals
You need both.

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Quetzalcoatl Vola 02.11.19

Nurp
Nurp wrote:
It turns out that I was some other Russian?
Why not the other? True ))
Nurp wrote:
Because I think that normal Russian for some reason do not see threats and conspiracies against Russia.
Threats and conspiracies - this is normal. Threatening Russia, and Russia is also not faithfully follow the norms of international law. But to assess the situation through the prism of conspiracy theory - that this phenomenon is not normal. But widely common, unfortunately.
Nurp wrote:
Us sanctions and the Constitution are not Americans with the European Union ordered!
Need I remind you that was the cause or even a cause? And how this reason was given?
Nurp wrote:
And the Chinese by NATO in the Baltics nest.
The Chinese while others are busy - pressed Uighurs, for example. But they're, like, friends of Russia, they have no complaints. Well, against NATO, we have drawn the rockets. Putin said that analogues of our weapons anywhere in the world. You believe the great President of a great country? So you can sleep peacefully, what are you up to the liberals all over the world.
Nurp wrote:
Normal Russian enthusiastically read any of Brzezinski's conspiracy theorists and believe in what they say on the Internet liberalnego wing blogery.
It's called the blame on others. To believe in conspiracy and conspiracy theories - the inheritance of the Orthodox conservatives. And to believe every word Dima Kiselev and other propagandists, pouring the oil in the Patriotic ears. And if you're not here above Grisha Klimov commemorated? ;)
Nurp wrote:
Think that can you compare temples and hospitals, although necessary and those and others, even schools and kindergartens, factories, high-quality roads.
But instead of that, we mostly just temples. Built on the money of oligarchs, as in this case, by the way. Here with hospitals, particularly in rural areas. With the road trouble. Need and schools, of course, thank you for remembered. Although the level of education in Russia is rapidly falling. Well, about the factories - is that hypocritical gloating on your part. Most of the factories, former giants of the industry, lies in ruins or have been demolished. The destiny of modern Russian - screwdriver Assembly for the benefit of the firms in those countries that you hate.
Nurp wrote:
Normal Russian whining in the Internet about increasing prices and taxes, and the retirement age, but to get your ass out of YouTube, at least allowed the rallies, for some reason do not wish to.
Well, pulled. And you are unhappy!
Nurp wrote:
People came to rallies believe the followers of the Communist party, the liberal democratic party, CP, EP (underline) or just followers of the revolution, not the people defending their rights.
You don't say! And left on this rally you do not consider homosexuals, Navarrete, agents of the state Department? Well to dissemble something.
Nurp wrote:
Well, if normal Russian caught Russian believer, all bets are off, blame the consumption of opium to people.
Yes, not only and not so much. Themselves, then at least Zapatistas, I'm a man of liberal, I have nothing against. Everyone has the right, until it goes against the rights of others. I'm not even against churches when their construction does not require something to be demolished or cut down. Not against religion, if it is not transformed into state ideology. But with these while, if and when in our country big problem.
Nurp wrote:
But the main feature from normal Russian when communicating on the forums to point out the ignorance of the opponent, as specified in the brochures of their idol sisana from the state Department
You see, you do hold back hard. So tempted.
Nurp wrote:
... as well as a quote: so that Russian people have become more spiritual and humble and in the evening instead of the squares went to preaching in the temple?.
No, not the same. Man, nothing was written to evoke such a stream of verbal, excuse me, shit. So you also wished to die - from the high spirituality, apparently.
Nurp wrote:
A deliberate lie in relation to the real situation, to the believers and Orthodoxy.
Likely true, piercing eyes.
Nurp wrote:
Because officially, according to municipal documents, this area is not on Park, square, green area.
And this pedantry means that there forbidding you slapped a temple, spit on it, as this area residents perceive?
Nurp wrote:
The temple will be built with donations and sponsorship money, not the taxes from the state Treasury.
Well, the oligarchs and build it. Because you have acquired overwork periodically to clean up-pray. Well, okay. There, out over the river via the bridge for three (!) temple. So what purpose decided restore blown up a Church in this place (especially that fix was generally in another)? The proposal should generate the demand, or someone have nothing better to do?
Nurp wrote:
But normal Russian hypnosis all mother Russia, but only came here for some reason, Orthodox religion believers.
Because behave. Of course has hypnosis not even because of the sponsors of this construction, although one is already ugly. But habitually. Brazen, simple. I think that if you have a symbiosis with the state you can do anything. In General, there is some truth to it. Therefore, this temple will likely be built and it is in this square. To show people that their opinion, and even more meetings, nothing and no one will not work.

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Quetzalcoatl Vola 02.11.19

Gauguin
Gauguin wrote:
Tell you a secret - no one thinks
Yeah like this one? Comments, look, read the article.
Gauguin wrote:
although this is one of my favorite liberally Church articles to refer to it.
And what is wrong? The article is quite consistent with the Orthodox worldview.
Gauguin wrote:
Some media priests, like Chaplin and Kuraev sometimes (sometimes too...ahem) namekaet head on modernist grounds.
What a mess-the. For example Kuraev, such is unlikely to be written. And Chaplin, Vsevolod which, far from modernist views. The author of this article is his namesake, by the way. But is there not some sort of rarity there. I can get you a lot of articles from various Orthodox authors lead with an awful judgment. And even live performances.
Gauguin wrote:
The symptoms are different. But to take it as the opinion of the Church and the opinion of Orthodox Christianity is to be not quite adequate and knowledgeable person.
Ie again wrong bees? Or bee is correct, but honey is wrong? But connoisseurs of honey eat and not choke.
Gauguin wrote:
You need both.
But priorities in favor of the temples we have. Why would these two patrons hospital or school not to build? Them in excess, or something, and temples walking distance is not enough?

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Gauguin 02.11.19

Quetzalcoatl Vola
Quetzalcoatl Vola wrote:
And what is wrong? The article is quite consistent with the Orthodox worldview.
There is no correspondence. Acceptance of evil and sin is not included in the plans of the Orthodox.
Quetzalcoatl Vola wrote:
For example Kuraev, such would hardly have written
I'm not talking about what exactly would have written Kuraev, I brought it as example of popular priests with marginal position.
Quetzalcoatl Vola wrote:
And Chaplin, Vsevolod which, far from modernist views.
What do you mean...
https://dvagrada.ru/wiki/%D0%A7%D0%B0%D0%BF%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BD_%D0%92%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B4_%D0%90%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%87
Quetzalcoatl Vola wrote:
I can get you a lot of articles from various Orthodox authors lead with an awful judgment. And even live performances.
It is your right.
Quetzalcoatl Vola wrote:
Ie again wrong bees?
You are absolutely right. Christianity is, people are not. The priests in particular.
Quetzalcoatl Vola wrote:
and temples walking distance is not enough?
Not enough. Temples are few and overcrowded.

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ColonelJason 02.11.19

Gauguin
Gauguin wrote:
Temples are few and overcrowded.
You money of the Ministry for cocaine what is it all gone? You in the last days as something completely without restraint. It is clear that to distort the picture of reality metaphysical inventions-your professional duty and, for obvious reasons, unavoidable, but why to the extent you discredit your cause as statements, openly contrary to empirically verifiable reality?

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A.Soldier of Light 02.11.19

Quetzalcoatl Vola wrote:
And to believe every word Dima Kiselev and other propagandists
So I ask you to tell who to believe really? 8)
Quetzalcoatl Vola wrote:
And left on this rally you do not consider homosexuals, Navarrete, agents of the state Department?
Problem of any more or less large rally in Russia in that it can roll up just the same liberasti, novalidate and other agents.
Gauguin wrote:
Christianity is, people are not. The priests in particular.
Well, the obvious was recognized.
Nurp wrote:
To continue the discussion makes no sense because of the sprinkle alert is the right admins/modders website.
And if you do not have soared, including on political themes -) don't know if you were here in 2008, but the theme of the Georgian-South Ossetian conflict is something 8) To twenty parts were separated, and wrote there for hundreds (thousands) of pages of text within six months after the war. And it was interesting ) And now...

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zdrastE 02.11.19

A. Soldier of Light wrote:
So I ask you to tell who to believe really? 8)
all! Russian TV is the most truthful, kind and polite in the world.
you want examples? they have me.
Спойлер26-00 watch fuck you. well, 24-40 is also a masterpiece

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masha 02.11.19

Would there already an Antenna for receiving signals of the aliens.

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Quetzalcoatl Vola 02.11.19

Gauguin
Gauguin wrote:
There is no correspondence. Acceptance of evil and sin is not included in the plans of the Orthodox.
Where in the article about the necessity of such adoption?
Gauguin wrote:
What do you mean...
dvagrada.EN/wiki/%D0%A7%D0%B0%D0%BF%D0%BB%D0%B8%..
Here I agree.
Gauguin wrote:
Not enough. Temples are few and overcrowded.
Easter was observed that in the area of the temples, whose number approximates the number of supermarkets, people quite a bit... Not gonna lie, I did.

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Quetzalcoatl Vola 02.11.19

Nurp
I will not comment on all the sheets with your outpouring of bile, but in the opinion survey comment:
The construction of the Cathedral of St. Catherine in the square in the center of Yekaterinburg after survey data of the all-Russia centre of studying of public opinion (VTSIOM) are excluded. Wrote about this on his official page in Instagram the Governor of Sverdlovsk region Evgeny Kuyvashev.
I think that the published data polls give grounds to exclude the square near the drama Theatre from the list of possible locations for placing the Church of St. Catherine. Appeal to the head of Ekaterinburg Alexander Wysokinska with a request not to include this site in the list of places for the survey. We went through this conflict, he is exhausted. We would have to find a new place for the temple, - he wrote.

Residents asked and they decided. Don't tell me that asked, not those, not those and not so )) But Chaplin, who for some reason you don't like, dashed off a response almost your own words: https://deadline.media/press-releases/all/?pr=9582
It is, of course, for extremism after such draws. Well it's not Bulk, and zealous of spiritual braces!