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Fad454 14.10.21 10:33 pm

Paradox (Spoiler) (The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt)

Why, in Novigrad, the coroner (supreme vampire), who crippled Priscilla, Geralt easily kills, and in Blood and Wine, the supreme vampire Detlaf can only be killed by the same supreme vampire! It turns out illogical, a paradox!
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LarsJunFan 14.10.21

The world of the Witcher has always been inhabited by different creatures that are simply beyond logic. And that also falls into the category. Do not be surprised.

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Ryogi Shiki 14.10.21

the coroner is kind of like a katakan, no?

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ilya1iz2 14.10.21

Fad454
Thought about it too. They didn’t do the alignment.

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ilya1iz2 14.10.21

Nikotinoz_
No, the vampire himself said that he is the Supreme vampire.

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Cucumber312 14.10.21

Witchers and humans can also kill high vampires, but the point is that another high vampire can regain him.

And if another high vampire kills him, then everything will be finished. And it will be impossible to regen it.

(Most likely, this supreme vampire, who rode on the soil of eternal fire, became a loner and an outcast who did not stand in front of anyone at all.)

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Rakurs94 14.10.21

Detlaf is a more powerful vampire who is able to manipulate other vampires. Otherwise, I don’t know how to explain it.

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Wild rider 14.10.21

In the original there were only katakanas. Katakan is a subspecies of higher vampires. They do not have immortality like Regis and Detlaff. They look different.

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Mescaline 14.10.21

and who said that he killed him? Regis was also kind of dead, but he was reborn

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Fallen space knight 14.10.21

Detlaff, like Regis, are nosferats, the most immobile subspecies of higher vampires.

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Fad454 14.10.21

He is still a katakan, although he is described as the ultimate vampire in the game!

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Norman bates 14.10.21

Nikotinoz_
Wild Rider
Katakanas are not that intelligent, and they cannot change their appearance.

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Wild rider 14.10.21

Norman Bates
Where does infa come from? In a non-canon type game?

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Boba4ka 14.10.21

Is the Oxenfurt bloodsucker Katakan? Quite reasonable, he even talked. Unless, under Geralt, he did not turn into a person.

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Ryogi Shiki 14.10.21

Norman Bates wrote:
Katakanas are not that intelligent and they cannot change their appearance.
and nevertheless, when the coroner turned - it was katakan
and at the expense of reason, then the Oxenfurt bloodsucker is also katakan and he spoke

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Wild rider 14.10.21

Norman Bates
You seem to have confused them with ekimms.

Nikotinoz_
There was one katakana in the Novigrad dungeon.

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Boba4ka 14.10.21

Wild Rider
There is one more supreme vampire in the dungeons near Novigrad. )
Although in battle, he is as high as the coroner. It is a pity, of course, that the models are the same as those of the Katakans.

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Norman bates 14.10.21

Wild Rider
Well, at least from there, that in the bestiary of the Wild Hunt there is not a word about the fact that katakana can change shape. In addition, there are katakanas in the game, and they do not change their appearance, like the same brooks. There is no non-canon in the game, just the coroner is not a katakan. Regis said that the highest vampires differ in their abilities. And Detlaff is a very special vampire, besides, he is the final boss, unlike the coroner.

Nikotinoz_
Well, higher vampires can change their appearance, it is quite possible that this appearance is different for different vampires .. The same Detlaff changed its appearance several times. And the conversation is not yet evidence of reason) The same brooks, judging by their behavior, are wiser than katakans. What can we say about the highest vampires.

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Boba4ka 14.10.21

Norman Bates
Both Regis and Detlaff can at least simply change their faces and grow claws) and they stupidly turn into katakanas, even after death they remain in shape. )

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Wild rider 14.10.21

Norman Bates wrote:
In addition, there are katakanas in the game, and they do not change their appearance, like the same brooks.
Yes, there were some. Oxenfurt bloodsucker and another one on Triss's quest. Why should they change their appearance back to human? They were already getting ready to fight.

Norman Bates wrote:
just a coroner is not a katakan.
Katakan. The corresponding mutagen can be taken from it.

Norman Bates wrote:
And Detlaff is a very special vampire
Same as Regis (they even looked alike during the fight) and possibly Hidden. They are natural Supreme vampires.
Norman Bates wrote:
Regis said that higher vampires differ in their abilities.
Projects weren't very attentive to the vampire classes. Katakans should be classified either as a subspecies of the highest vampires, or in a separate, middle class. As you like best. And so there are no more inconsistencies.

UPD I know about Ekimma.

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Norman bates 14.10.21

Boba4ka
Detlaff can not only grow claws) In addition, it is quite possible that when this quest with the coroner was done, there were no plans for "Blood and Wine" yet. So they cut down a model of an ordinary katakana for him. The bestiary in the game says unambiguously: both Novigrad vampires are vampires of the highest rank, not katakanas.

Wild Rider
Emimma is generally an inferior vampire.

Wild Rider
Change appearance not during the battle, but in front of him, turn from a person into a monster, like a brooks. Otherwise, why would they hide in the shadows, like an Oxenfurt bloodsucker, or live in the sewers, like a vampire on Triss's quest?
Katakan is a subspecies of the former vampire, like brooks. But Regis and others like him are simply called the highest because they are difficult to classify, even the aedmaks do not take orders for them. CDPR hasn't messed up anything here, it goes on from books.