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The ghost of totalitarian 10.11.21 06:05 pm

What happened in Kampuchea in the 1970s?

As you know, in 1975-1979. Cambodia was called Kampuchea and the Khmer Rouge regime was established in it - Pol Pot and Yeng Sari.
At the same time, it is almost always said that the Khmer Rouge organized genocide, which claimed the lives of 1 million to 3 million people.
The CIA report says that the Khmer Rouge directly executed from 50 to 100 thousand people (from 0.007% to 0.014% of the population in 1975; for comparison, the American colonists destroyed almost 90% of the Indians, the German Nazis destroyed about 9% of the inhabitants of the USSR (without accounting for military losses)). From starvation, 1.2 million people died. They are, of course, blamed on the Khmer Rouge regime. As evidence of the mass destruction of their people by the Khmer Rouge, the "death fields" are presented.
The following remarks arise here.
1) Before the Khmer Rouge regime, the country had a pro-American Lon Nol regime.
2) The civil war itself brings devastation.
3) The mass destruction of one's own people is a characteristic handwriting of pro-American puppets.
4) The mass destruction of people in general is a characteristic handwriting of the colonialists, such as the Spanish conquistadors, the British and French colonialists, the German Nazis, the American military.
5) The creation of conditions for the emergence of hunger is a characteristic handwriting of the colonialists, such as the Spanish conquistadors, the British and French colonialists, the German Nazis, the American military.
6) Massive public reprisals - a characteristic handwriting of the colonialists and their collaborators.
7) A ruthless attitude towards the human resources of their country is a characteristic handwriting of collaborators and pro-American puppets. The puppets are concerned only with their own skin, they do not care about the future of their country. Their masters also don't give a damn about the people in their colonies; for them, profit is of paramount importance.
8) A characteristic handwriting of the communist regimes after the victory is the destruction of only the most distinguished enemies, who, during the civil war, had fun by burning communist prisoners in steam locomotive furnaces or car tires.
9) The characteristic signature of communist regimes is the fight against hunger in their own country.
10) After the victory, the communists, even with strongly distinguished opponents, dealt with, as a rule, not in public, but in secluded places (see Vlasov). To be publicly executed in a socialist country after 1920, you need to be either a Nazi monster, or an extremely vicious Nazi accomplice, or a drug dealer from China.
11) The communists tried to save human resources, realizing that mass executions weaken the country, which would prevent it from further resisting American aggression.
12) During the civil war, the Americans constantly bombarded Cambodia, destroying its economy.

In total we have:
1) Despite the fact that the motives for the mass extermination of people are an inalienable attribute of the colonialists (in this case, the United States) and their puppets, the party, which traditionally did not have such motives, is accused of the mass extermination of the Cambodians.
2) Despite the fact that the handwriting of reprisals against their (possible) opponents (public as opposed to secrecy) is similar to the handwriting of the Americans and their puppets, the side with the traditionally opposite handwriting of reprisals is accused of the mass extermination of the Cambodians.
3) Despite the fact that famine in the country is a traditional consequence of the policy of the colonialists and their puppets (for example, the Yeltsin-Gaidar junta are pro-American puppets), civil wars and the bombing of economic regions, he is being pushed onto the side that traditionally fought against hunger and certainly did not torment her country with carpet bombing.

It would be more logical when establishing a regime responsible for the mass deaths of Cambodians, first of all, to consider regimes that, in their style and motives of reprisals, are more suitable for the role of Cambodian assassins.
The handwriting and motives are more inherent in the Americans and their puppets than the communists, to which the Pol Pot people are ranked.
Therefore, to prove the extraordinary statement ("The public massacres were not organized by those who traditionally did this, but those who traditionally did not do this"), extraordinary evidence is required.

I would like to see this extraordinary evidence.
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Sima4 10.11.21

Aftor, why do you need docks on the vasilization of further Cambodia-Mambodia? Does this Lancer Evolution appear?

:)

I even have a vague idea of ​​where it is. What can I say about the 70s of the last century.

Ours lost in hockey. And that event, mlyn :(

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DesKoUnT 10.11.21

Over there we lost our hockey game. And that event, mlyn :(

+1 ((

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Nihiliant 10.11.21

Well, why flood?

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cataphract_an 10.11.21

The Silesian is a
complete fuck-up , YES HELLO Pol Pot, the leader of the world revolution !!!!!!!!
as it quietly and not noticeably crept insanity.

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Primarch of the II Legion 10.11.21

The Kampuchea of ​​1975 is a vivid example of how they approach the implementation of a good idea with their hands sticking out of f ***. Or maybe that's how it was intended? Pol Pot was not an idiot, on the contrary, he was a charming, educated person.
You can read it here. http://eastlib.narod.ru/modern/polpot.htm

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stalker7162534 10.11.21

Democratic Kampuchea (Khmer. Ђ? T– ”‡ ¶” Tљ ‡ ¶ '· ”ЏB ™ T ™) is an atheistic state. The name was given by the Khmer Rouge during their reign from 1975 to 1979. Even at the height of its influence in Kampuchea, the Khmer Rouge never ruled the entire territory of the country, since approximately 1% of the country in the northeast was controlled by Lon Nol.
After the fall of the Kyrgyz Republic, the Khmer Rouge captured Phnom Penh in 1975. By the end of 1978, the Khmer Rouge movement controlled about 99% of the country's territory. The opposition (Lon Nol) was driven north into the jungle. During the reign of "KK" the laws of Maoism in the strictest interpretation were established in the country.

During the five years of the history of the DC, restrictions on their freedom and violations of human rights were imposed on a significant part of the population. Money was abolished, Buddhism was outlawed. Everyone was forced to work, everyone was forbidden to attend schools or universities. All those who resisted were punished according to the laws of execution. Thieves were punished by shooting.
Democratic Kampuchea was a recognized state - it was recognized by all states, the UN, Albania and the DPRK. The USSR also de facto recognized the KK government as it invited Pol Pot to Moscow.

The internal policy of "KK" was the most closed. One of the first acts of the Palace of Culture was the resettlement of the people. Before the KK took control of the Cambodian capital Phnom Penh, the KK executed Lon Nol's associates and his brother by shooting them at Phnom Pyong Stadium. Since Lon Nol was the unrecognized head of Cambodia by the United Nations, the execution of his associates is not a violation of international law. The KK regime was criticized for the 1978 murder of American journalist Malcolm Caldwell in Kampuchea.

External communication was maintained with the PRC and Mao Zedong, the DPRK and Kim Il Sung, Albania and Enver Hoja.

From the late 1960s to 1975, there was a civil war in the country, in which North Vietnam, South Vietnam and the United States actively intervened. In 1970, a military coup took place, as a result of which General Lon Nol came to power and proclaimed the creation of the Khmer Republic. In the same year, to support the Lon Nol government, which launched military operations against the Cambodian communists - the Khmer Rouge, the armed forces of the United States and South Vietnam invaded Cambodia.

In 1975, having won the civil war, the Khmer Rouge came to power, led by Pol Pot. The country was imposed on the course of building "agrarian socialism", which in fact turned into genocide against its own people (townspeople, intelligentsia, Buddhists, national minorities, simply "superfluous"). According to various estimates, from 1 to 3 million inhabitants of the country, which at that time was called "Democratic Kampuchea", were destroyed.

In 1978, the country's economy was completely depleted, and Pol Pot launched an aggression against Vietnam. However, large groups of the Khmer Rouge, dissatisfied with the repression, began to defect to the Vietnamese side almost immediately. In 1979, Vietnamese troops overthrew the Khmer Rouge regime. The final withdrawal of Vietnamese troops from Cambodia took place in 1989, but the civil war in the country after that continued for some time. Tacit support for the Khmer Rouge was provided by China, which saw them as a counterbalance to the influence of Vietnam. The Khmer Rouge controlled areas bordering Thailand and periodically made forays into the interior of the country. It was they who represented Kampuchea at the UN.

Relief of Cambodia

In connection with the ongoing political crisis, the new leader of Cambodia, Hun Sen, who replaced the pro-Vietnamese Heng Samrin, agreed to the UN mediation. As a result, a coalition administration of Cambodia was formed with the participation of leaders of the opposition forces, many major opposition figures were amnestied (the Khmer Rouge and Lon Nol's supporters), and a decision was made to return King Sihanouk. At the same time, the UN has recognized the new administration of Cambodia.

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Total. Silesian, again knocks from a sick head to a healthy one.
And the answer to the question of the name of the topic is only one - communism was built in Kampuchea.

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The ghost of totalitarian 10.11.21

communism was built in Kampuchea.
From the point of view of an illiterate in economics - of course.

So, and now the documents that it was the Khmer Rouge who killed a million people - in the studio.

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stalker7162534 10.11.21

Silesian, are you taking back your thesis that PolPot was a US puppet? Do you admit that you piled up garbage in the first post?

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The ghost of totalitarian 10.11.21

Are you taking back your thesis that PolPot was a US puppet?
And I said that? :)
I hinted that the victims attributed to the Khmer Rouge are actually victims of the Americans and their puppets :)

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stalker7162534 10.11.21

Oh, let's consider that I was mistaken after reading this phrase:
"The handwriting and motives are more inherent in the Americans and their puppets than the communists, to which the Pol Pot people are ranked."
and taking it for the statement that the Polpotovtsy are US puppets.

So, you are trying to prove that the Cambodians were destroyed not by the Pol Pot people, but by the Americans and their officials, and at the same time you are referring to the CIA report. (lol)
That's a line from a "report on your link"
"of The conditions Imposed upon the people by the Pol Pot Regime resulted in an absolute Decline in the population for Between April 1975 and January 1979 of an estimated 1.2 million to 1.8 million people"
gugleperevod
"The conditions imposed on the regime of Pol Pot people as a result of an absolute decline in population since April 1975, and in January 1979, 1.2 million to 1.8 million people,"

so it does not bring down the blame on HEALTHCENTER. The communists Pol Pot and Yeng Sari began to build communism and built communism in the form in which it is the only possible.

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Colt 1911 45 Calibra 10.11.21

And here the Yankees ???

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The ghost of totalitarian 10.11.21

So, you are trying to prove that the Cambodians were not destroyed by the Pol Pot people, but by the Americans and their officials, and at the same time you are referring to the CIA report. (lol)
Will you dispute the figures of executions?
Good.

Here is a line from the "report on your link"
And here the Yankees are cheating.
Before that, they bombed the country, destroying the economy.
With the economy destroyed, the population decline is not surprising at all.
The economy was destroyed by the Americans, not the Khmer Rouge. The victims are attributed to the latter according to the same scheme according to which those who died of old age were recorded in the lists of "those killed by the famine" :)

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INjektion 10.11.21

so do not blame your sore head on a healthy one. The communists Pol Pot and Yeng Sari began to build communism and built communism in the form in which it is the only possible - a bullshit. Stalker. What is communism in terms of spiritual, moral, etc., etc.?

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The ghost of totalitarian 10.11.21

Google translation I
had to search in Spanish, you once dug up "courageous bombs" in the text :)

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stalker7162534 10.11.21

The report of the CIA said that the Khmer Rouge directly executed from 50 to 100 thousand people (from 0.007% to 0.014% of the population in the year 1975;

Komunyatsky cynicism - killed a hundred thousand people, well, kind of garbage, it's not a billion Stalin personally.

And the fact that komunyaki led to the deaths of 1.5-3 million people - it is for the Communists is illiterate garbage fanatic will count that is 0.007% of the population?..
But spravochka
"Cambodia, people's Republic of Kampuchea
state in the southern part of Indochina Peninsula Territory -. 181 thousand. km. Population - 4.5 million (1979 estimate) "
http://geo.historic.ru/enc/item/f00/s00/m000051/index.shtml

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INjektion 10.11.21

You see. He himself showed his inadequacy. It means that the numbers of 3 million killed are lies. I would not be surprised if there were 3.8 million ....) I wonder who counted the corpses and where are these pieces of paper if there was a bill at all? Is this just another blotter written while visiting the toilets by the next president of the states?

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INjektion 10.11.21

1.5-3 million - how is it? The spread is one and a half million !!!! it's funny. How did they think? By eye?)))))))
Why not from 2-4 then? I certainly understand the jungle and all that .. but this already .. I don’t even know ..

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The ghost of totalitarian 10.11.21

Komunyatsky cynicism - killed a hundred thousand people, well, what a garbage, it's not a billion personally by Stalin.
What kind of a hundred thousand people, Stalker?
Criminals or really white and furry?

And the fact that komunyaki led to the death of 1.5-3 million people - how's that?
Communists?
Or is it still the American bombing, which then backfired with hunger?

2 Injektion:
What did they think
?

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stalker7162534 10.11.21

Or is it still the American bombing, which then backfired with hunger?

I'm hearing about the US Air Force bombing of Democratic Kampuchea. (I guess I can't wait for an answer, you will again merge into blah blah).

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The ghost of totalitarian 10.11.21

I'm hearing about the US Air Force bombing of Democratic Kampuchea.
Not Kampuchea, but Cambodia.
Look, in the USSR there was a famine in 1946 - because of the devastated infrastructure. Not because of Comrade Stalin, but because of the Germans who used the scorched earth tactics.
In Great Britain, the cards were abolished much later by the USSR - they also destroyed the economy by bombing.
It was the same in Cambodia. The Americans went through the bombing - the economy was destroyed, which backfired in 2-3 years. As in the USSR.