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The ghost of totalitarian 10.11.21 06:05 pm

What happened in Kampuchea in the 1970s?

As you know, in 1975-1979. Cambodia was called Kampuchea and the Khmer Rouge regime was established in it - Pol Pot and Yeng Sari.
At the same time, it is almost always said that the Khmer Rouge organized genocide, which claimed the lives of 1 million to 3 million people.
The CIA report says that the Khmer Rouge directly executed from 50 to 100 thousand people (from 0.007% to 0.014% of the population in 1975; for comparison, the American colonists destroyed almost 90% of the Indians, the German Nazis destroyed about 9% of the inhabitants of the USSR (without accounting for military losses)). From starvation, 1.2 million people died. They are, of course, blamed on the Khmer Rouge regime. As evidence of the mass destruction of their people by the Khmer Rouge, the "death fields" are presented.
The following remarks arise here.
1) Before the Khmer Rouge regime, the country had a pro-American Lon Nol regime.
2) The civil war itself brings devastation.
3) The mass destruction of one's own people is a characteristic handwriting of pro-American puppets.
4) The mass destruction of people in general is a characteristic handwriting of the colonialists, such as the Spanish conquistadors, the British and French colonialists, the German Nazis, the American military.
5) The creation of conditions for the emergence of hunger is a characteristic handwriting of the colonialists, such as the Spanish conquistadors, the British and French colonialists, the German Nazis, the American military.
6) Massive public reprisals - a characteristic handwriting of the colonialists and their collaborators.
7) A ruthless attitude towards the human resources of their country is a characteristic handwriting of collaborators and pro-American puppets. The puppets are concerned only with their own skin, they do not care about the future of their country. Their masters also don't give a damn about the people in their colonies; for them, profit is of paramount importance.
8) A characteristic handwriting of the communist regimes after the victory is the destruction of only the most distinguished enemies, who, during the civil war, had fun by burning communist prisoners in steam locomotive furnaces or car tires.
9) The characteristic signature of communist regimes is the fight against hunger in their own country.
10) After the victory, the communists, even with strongly distinguished opponents, dealt with, as a rule, not in public, but in secluded places (see Vlasov). To be publicly executed in a socialist country after 1920, you need to be either a Nazi monster, or an extremely vicious Nazi accomplice, or a drug dealer from China.
11) The communists tried to save human resources, realizing that mass executions weaken the country, which would prevent it from further resisting American aggression.
12) During the civil war, the Americans constantly bombarded Cambodia, destroying its economy.

In total we have:
1) Despite the fact that the motives for the mass extermination of people are an inalienable attribute of the colonialists (in this case, the United States) and their puppets, the party, which traditionally did not have such motives, is accused of the mass extermination of the Cambodians.
2) Despite the fact that the handwriting of reprisals against their (possible) opponents (public as opposed to secrecy) is similar to the handwriting of the Americans and their puppets, the side with the traditionally opposite handwriting of reprisals is accused of the mass extermination of the Cambodians.
3) Despite the fact that famine in the country is a traditional consequence of the policy of the colonialists and their puppets (for example, the Yeltsin-Gaidar junta are pro-American puppets), civil wars and the bombing of economic regions, he is being pushed onto the side that traditionally fought against hunger and certainly did not torment her country with carpet bombing.

It would be more logical when establishing a regime responsible for the mass deaths of Cambodians, first of all, to consider regimes that, in their style and motives of reprisals, are more suitable for the role of Cambodian assassins.
The handwriting and motives are more inherent in the Americans and their puppets than the communists, to which the Pol Pot people are ranked.
Therefore, to prove the extraordinary statement ("The public massacres were not organized by those who traditionally did this, but those who traditionally did not do this"), extraordinary evidence is required.

I would like to see this extraordinary evidence.
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stalker7162534 10.11.21

Silesian
05/26/10 18:32 The Americans went through the bombing - the economy was destroyed, which backfired in 2-3 years.

As he predicted - in response one thing: blah-blah-blah Americans blah-blah-blah

"Pol Pot's troops captured Phnom Penh in 1975. A regime of the most severe terror was established in the country against representatives of the bourgeoisie, officials and military personnel of the previous regime, the intelligentsia, ethnic minorities and townspeople, who killed 3 374 768 people in 3.5 years (about 40% of the country's population). (Protocol on the crimes of the Pol Pot - Ieng Sari - Khieu Samfan clique against the Cambodian people in the period 1975-1978) [4] most of the state libraries and educational institutions were destroyed.

J.-L. Margolen about Pol Pot: “A sensitive and timid professor, in love with French poetry and revered by students, an ardent propagandist of the revolution (this is how all eyewitnesses describe him from the 50s to the 80s) was in fact the embodiment of duplicity: having come to power, he threw his oldest revolutionary comrades-in-arms, who were considered his close friends, into the dungeons, did not answer their pleading letters, ordered them to be cruelly tortured and then executed; they say he even took a personal part in their execution ”[5].

In January 1979, the dictatorship of Pol Pot was overthrown by invading Vietnamese troops. "
Vicki

PS (interestingly, the boy will be able to ask the question - why the Vietnamese Communists overthrew the Khmer communists?)

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stalker7162534 10.11.21

Source: "Kampuchea: life after death" / Comp. E. Kobelev. - M .: Politizdat, 1985 .-- 224 p., Ill.

"1,160,307 people provided evidence of the crimes of the Pol Pot people. Between 1975 and 1978, the death toll was 2,746,105, including 1,927,061 peasants, 25,168 monks, 48,359 representatives of national minorities, 305,417 workers, employees and others professions, about 100 writers and journalists, a number of foreign citizens, as well as old people and children.568,663 people went missing and either died in the jungle or were buried in mass graves similar to those found in the area of ​​Kampong Chhnang airport, near Siem Reap and along the slopes of the Dangrek ridge. These 3,374,768 people were killed by blows with hoes, clubs, burned and buried alive, cut into pieces, stabbed to death with sharp leaves of a sugar palm, poisoned, killed by electric shocks,they were tortured with nails pulled out, crushed by caterpillars of tractors, thrown to be eaten by crocodiles, their livers were cut out, which served as food for the executioners, small children were quartered alive, thrown into the air and put on bayonets, beaten against tree trunks, women were raped and put on cola.
Pol Pot's regime left behind 141,848 disabled people, more than 200,000 orphans, numerous widows who did not find their families. The survivors were exhausted, incapable of reproduction and in a state of poverty and complete physical exhaustion.
A large number of young people lost their happiness due to forced marriages carried out by the Pol Pot people on a massive scale.
634,522 buildings were destroyed, of which 5857 schools, as well as 796 hospitals, paramedics and laboratories, 1968 temples were destroyed or turned into warehouses or prisons. 108 mosques were also destroyed. The Pol Pot people destroyed a myriad of agricultural tools, as well as 1,507,416 head of cattle. "
(Protocol on the Crimes of the Pol Pot - Ieng Sari - Khieu Samfana clique against the Cambodian people in the period 1975-1978)
http://ycnokoutellb.livejournal.com/151708.html

"On the third wall there is another photograph - the most terrible of all This is an enlarged photo taken in Beijing during Mao Zedong's meeting with Pol Pot and Ieng Sari. Mao just congratulated these smiling men who killed and continued to kill millions of Khmers. “In one blow,” Mao said, “you have eliminated all the exploiters.
"- How do you behave towards children?
- To the children of traitors? I have no pity for them. Only women have some influence on my behavior. It is much easier to work with children. We have comrades who smash their heads on a tree trunk. I prefer to use an ebony baton. This is a very good weapon. Here you go. It is almost the same heavy and the same strong steel. "
In the same place

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But our young fanatic Stalinism will keep repeating about bad Pindos, and even justify those komunyak who were overthrown by other komunyaki.

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Paratrooper 10.11.21



Pol Pot was a great and wise politician, fully caring for his people.

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The ghost of totalitarian 10.11.21

As predicted - in response to one: blah-blah-blah Americans blah-blah-blah
What he predicted - blah-blah-blah Pol Pot blah-blah-blah.

why did the Vietnamese communists overthrow the power of the Khmer communists?
Because there were pro-Soviet communists in Vietnam, and pro-Chinese in Kampuchea.

(Protocol on the crimes of the Pol Pot - Ieng Sari - Khieu Samfana clique against the Cambodian people in the period 1975-1978)
ycnokoutellb.livejournal.com/151708.html
Come on, not LJ.

Mao has just congratulated these smiling men who have killed and continue to kill millions of Khmers. “In one blow,” Mao said, “you have eliminated all the exploiters.
"- How do you behave towards children?
- To the children of traitors? I have no pity for them.
What about the primary source?

In general, we see: Stalker does not use primary sources, but stupidly retells the Pindos-Soviet legends about the evil uncle Pol Pot.

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NickoIa 10.11.21

What happened in Kampuchea in the 1970s?

Do you care?

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stalker7162534 10.11.21

In general, we see: Stalker does not use primary sources, but stupidly retells the Pindos-Soviet legends about the evil uncle Pol Pot.

So the Silesian-Elgato considers the book written in the USSR to be nonsense because it does not suit him. Know yourself trolls communism-Stalin is good, America is bad.

Protocol on the Crimes of the Pol Pot - Ieng Sari - Khieu Samfana clique against the Cambodian people in the period 1975-1978
"" 1,160,307 people provided evidence of the crimes of the Pol Pot people. Between 1975 and 1978, the death toll was 2,746,105, including 1,927,061 peasants, 25,168 monks, 48,359 representatives of national minorities, 305,417 workers, employees and representatives other professions, about 100 writers and journalists, a number of foreign citizens, as well as old people and children.568,663 people went missing and either died in the jungle or were buried in mass graves similar to those found in the area of ​​Kampong Chhnang airport, near Siem Reap and along the slopes of the Dangrek ridge. These 3,374,768 people were killed by blows with hoes, clubs, burned, buried alive, cut into pieces, stabbed with sharp leaves of a sugar palm, poisoned, killed by electric shocks,they were tortured with nails pulled out, crushed by caterpillars of tractors, thrown to be eaten by crocodiles, their livers were cut out, which served as food for the executioners, small children were quartered alive, thrown into the air and put on bayonets, beaten against tree trunks, women were raped and put on cola.

Pol Pot's regime left behind 141,848 invalids, more than 200,000 orphans, numerous widows who did not find their families. The survivors were powerless, incapable of reproduction and were in a state of poverty and complete physical exhaustion. A large number of young people lost their happiness as a result of forced marriages carried out by the Pol Pot people on a massive scale.
634,522 buildings were destroyed, of which 5857 schools, as well as 796 hospitals, paramedics posts and laboratories, 1968 temples were destroyed or turned into warehouses or prisons. 108 mosques were also destroyed. The Pol Pot people destroyed a myriad of agricultural tools, as well as 1,507,416 head of cattle. " "
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khmer_Red

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stalker7162534 10.11.21

I also read this, and wondered for whom the Silesian-Elgado works? Really in the USA?

“In 1999, two leaders of the Khmer Rouge were arrested on charges of crimes against humanity, but due to disagreements with the UN, it was not until October 2004 that Cambodia finally passed the law on organizing special tribunals for the genocide of 1975-1979. the trials of the accused have not yet begun, mainly due to the opposition of some political circles in the US Moreover, in recent years, the American media have been campaigning to rehabilitate the Khmer Rouge image, and books have been published that deny or mitigate the crimes of the Pol Pot regime. "
http://genocide.ru/lib/genocides/cambojian.htm

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stalker7162534 10.11.21

The UN International Tribunal accused the ex-Prime Minister of Cambodia of genocide
12/21/09 23:05


"Bangkok, December 21 (New Region, Vasilisa Yegorova) - The UN International War Crimes Tribunal in Cambodia has accused 78-year-old ex-Prime Minister Khieu Samphan of genocide.

Samfan is the third former Khmer Rouge leader to appear before judges of a tribunal charged with genocide of his own people this week, Voice of Russia reports.

On Wednesday, genocide charges were first brought against Khmer Rouge ideologue Nuon Chea and former Foreign Minister Iengu Sari. All of them are accused of committing war crimes and crimes against humanity, as well as murder and torture. The defendants are being held in the tribunal's prison and are expected to be convicted next year.

During the Khmer Rouge regime from 1975 to 1979, 1.7 million Cambodians died as a result of mass executions, overwork, overwork, disease and malnutrition.

The accused, according to the tribunal, are also involved in the massacres of people belonging to the Cham ethnic group and members of the Vietnamese community living in the country. Representatives of the Cham people, professing mainly Catholicism, actively resisted the Khmer Rouge regime. Several of their villages were simply eliminated, together with the residents. "

We must assume that a stubborn defender of the Communist Pol Pot again become a troll, it's all bullshit. No rating Polpotovschiny given in the Soviet Union or the United Nations estimate, for it does not mean anything.
This is not want to admit it and that's all.I want to believe him that Stalin is a genius of all times and peoples, and will troll about it.

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The ghost of totalitarian 10.11.21

So the Silesian-Elgato considers the book written in the USSR to be nonsense because it does not suit him.
And why on earth should I be completely satisfied with the "Made in USSR" stamp?

Protocol on the crimes of the Pol Pot - Ieng Sari - Khieu Samfan clique against the Cambodian people in the period 1975-1978
Compiled by a stupid count of the corpses that all previous regimes left behind?
Good document!

Neither the assessment of Polpotovschina given in the USSR, nor the assessment of the UN mean anything for him.
Don't mean anything.

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stalker7162534 10.11.21

The_Bulldozer loves to be offtopic in themes. There are specific topics on relevant issues. They poured the Bulldozer into these topics, so he begins to object in other topics.
For example, it was worth mentioning Pol Pot, so the Bulldozer begins to justify this cannibal.
stalker7162534 wrote:
And as you know, only one person made a society where there was no elite - no professors, no outstanding ballerinas, no one in general who would be superior to the rest in any area - This is PolPot.
The_Bulldozer wrote:
About Pol Pot - you really forgot to mention that the country was destroyed. ... ... oh, who would have thought - Pindostan.
That is, Bulldozer believes that the destruction of Paul Because a quarter of the population is justified ....... by the fact that the United States allegedly destroyed Kampuchea. What is a lie. This is how it really was.
The Republic of Vietnam, with US troops, helped the Cambodian troops repel the aggression of the North Vietnamese communists - the Viet Cong.
tyts A

clever man understands that even if Cambodia were bombed by the United States, this cannot serve as an excuse for the destruction of his own people Pol Pot.

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Wing42 10.11.21

"What happened in Kampuchea in the 1970s?"
I do not care.

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Garrus-1994 10.11.21

I don't know what happened in some Krasnoyarsk in 1976. And then they also ask about some Cambodia ...