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EX0800_ 26.11.21 11:48 pm

Cruel world ->

How do you like the world in which you live normally?
You don’t want to change anything?
I want to say that this world is terrible and there is little beauty here and I have a question why people do not want to change it and another question is why are they so afraid of death?

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A.Soldier of Light 26.11.21

EX0800_
How do you like the world in which you live normally?
How is it normal? Or did you forget the comma?

You don’t want to change anything?
I want and would change a lot, oh, and I would have done good ...))

I want to say that this world is terrible and there is little beauty here and I have a question why people do not want to change it

and another question is why are they so afraid of death?
Stupid instinct and nothing more. And everyone is afraid for their ass. One of the reasons, for example, why everyone runs away from the robber (he came to rob a bank or a store - whatever) instead of overpowering him by attacking from all sides, and his blunt gun / machine gun, in principle, will not help him. People in general are like that. And vicious. Alas, this is so. It is easy to seduce, temptations are everywhere, sometimes only fear of the law does not allow some to create horrors ...

Dr_Drift_RU
IMHO the horror of the world follows from the ideology of the majority.
Yes, it seems like there are horrors and without ideologies, that is, this is not a personal private opinion or propaganda, but an objective reality. Every day someone is brutally killed, maimed, and so on. Every day.

Now it is important to absorb more good into you, as they say - get everything from life.
Material benefits? Or spiritual? ) And get out of life -

whichever way ... Wing42
Nature does not need to be changed, you can gather the best people in one state and build a heavenly place where there are no elite and other egoists, where everything is in conscience and justice. There are such people, they are a minority, but there are. The majority are vicious and succumb to temptation, morality is ambivalent, unstable. And they are the majority in the world. That is why a stereotype has appeared that "the nature of man cannot be changed, and therefore the world cannot be changed either" ("nothing can be changed").
But you can change. Take one team, find a couple of idiots there and then throw them out of the team. The problem has been resolved, the team has lost its parasites. Adapt this method to the apartment association, the office, the entire company / plant .. the whole village, the city ... and then the whole country. Something like this. If all the vicious ones are not removed, then at least the most bad parasites can be removed. As they say, there are such in every team and society. And these are not gods, they are the same ordinary mortals, like everyone else, which means that it is quite possible to solve their problem. Technically.

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Wing42 26.11.21

A.Soldier of Light
"Take one team, find a couple of idiots there and then throw them out of the team. The problem is solved, the team has lost the parasites. Adapt this method to the apartment association, office, the whole company / factory .. the whole village, the city ... and then the whole country. "
This is an attempt to resolve the issue by directly removing the source of the problem, but not solving it. In human language: amputation of the affected limb instead of treating it. In fact, human "parasitic" nature will never change, right? But you can't cook porridge on only "perfect" people: moralists, altruists, humanists and non-ambitious vegetables. Any system striving for prosperity requires a driving force, so it is simply unwise to deprive it of this power.

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Evil Spirit Yambuya 26.11.21

Take one team, find a couple of idiots there and then throw them out of the team. The problem is solved ...

Hmm, but there is such a team where if you throw out two idiots, the problem is not solved ... why? Because instead of two thrown out idiots, as many as six appear there .. such groups are called, for example, "Verkhovna Rada" or "State Duma". There are already 450 idiots, you get tired of throwing out, they grow and multiply like rowing mold-))

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Dr_Drift_RU 26.11.21

A.Soldier of Light, at the expense of ideology. I meant the methods of a successful life: earn, get, get. And money doesn't smell, of course it's me about material wealth.
So. Ideologies, Benefits - Compilation:
The dominant theory of a successful life, at the present time, says that the happiest person is the most financially secure. But the reality is that the more money you can make, the more moral crutches you need to invent. I do not deprive - I stimulate activity, I do not sacrifice - I take away what is unnecessary. Well, etc.
Within the framework of the existing model of values, all this is quite justified. Mostly unfortunately.

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A.Soldier of Light 26.11.21

Within the framework of the existing model of values ​​.. our world has already deserved complete destruction) If we do not solve the typical problems of humanity in another way. Unfortunately.

Wing42
This is an attempt to resolve the issue by directly removing the source of the problem, but not solving it.
What? That is, cutting out a cancerous tumor will not solve the problem? ) The source of the problem and needs to be removed, this is the solution to the problem, and not elimination of its consequences. Explain what you yourself meant?

In fact, human "parasitic" nature will never change, right?
This is another question) The solution to the problem of having a bad person is to remove him. You can, of course, try to re-educate, but whether it is real is a rhetorical question. My opinion is this: everyone has one nature, but some have lower reason and morality, some have higher ones. Remove the problematic characters from the team, and that's all. It is rather difficult to imagine how you would begin to raise the level of self-awareness and morality of an already formed adult personality) I do not see any other solution, except for removal from the collective / society.

The Evil Spirit of Yambuya
Well, this is an example of a completely neglected problem) There you need to cut everything to the root and build from scratch with other persons (old ones - for retirement or work closer to the people, let them work with their hands on a par with "mere mortals") ...

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Wing42 26.11.21

A.Soldier of Light
"What? That is, cutting out a cancerous tumor won't solve the problem?"
No, there will be an unpleasant reminder in the form of a scar or scar. But if we agree that in this case it is still a solution, then it is necessary to determine how much and what depth of scars will be left on the body of society, tortured by many generations of other vultures? Phantom pain in this case for some will be ... unbearable.
"... the nature is the same for everyone, but someone has a lower reason and morality, someone has a higher"
The higher the intellect, the more doubtful the dogmas of morality and ethical principles seem.

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Dr_Drift_RU 26.11.21

Wing42, at the expense of intelligence. IMHO the same, nevertheless, a person is a social being, and moral principles such as:
Do not kill
Do not steal
Do not lie They
may well turn into something tangible and understandable, not necessarily ignored.
As there is an example with a broom, one reed breaks with your fingers, a whole broom is already with a knee.
But, I think that the social system affects the general tendencies of everyone's behavior, no matter how reasonable a person is.
Jacques Fresco once said, they say, a person who by nature got smart brains, as well as who was born and lived under the influence of extremist sentiments, will become an extremist faster than others, and I agree with him.

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A.Soldier of Light 26.11.21

Wing42
The higher the intellect, the more dubious moral dogmas and ethical principles seem.
I don’t see any way to check this statement, so I don’t see the point in having such an argument.)
One can only guess. For example, when a super-genius becomes a super-villain and wants to change the world, but for him a bunch of people .. well, a couple hundred million .. are worthless. But he is super-smart, sees a higher goal, and so on, he is beyond the bounds of morality. So roughly? It looks like Nietzsche) I don't agree with him, by the way.

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Mar-ta 26.11.21

Our world is really rotten, not yet through and through, but close to it. People have ceased to be sincere to each other. We are looking for a catch in everything, and this is truly bad ...
I am scared to look at what is happening in the world, I am scared to live on, why do people destroy what they themselves have created? This damn power, damn money! They are nothing compared to human life!
We complain and blame everyone around us that we live badly, and you yourself, did something to live better ?!
I agree with the phrase "If you want to change the world, first of all change yourself"
As for death, it is often not death that is terrible, but the process of dying itself. You just need to accept the idea that we will all die someday. We are born to die. It is natural...

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TTG 26.11.21

The world is as it should be. The cruelty is only in your head. Remember the multi-stage self-defense mechanisms. Something must always be sacrificed to achieve goals.

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Schreps 26.11.21

I want it even tougher, like in the Middle Ages, right now there is no peace, everything is on the money, And before it was possible to hack to death the "deputy" and that's the end of it

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Wing42 26.11.21

A.Soldier of Light
I am very superficially familiar with the teachings of Nietzsche, so I don't see much sense in relying on him. A supergenius becomes a supervillain and begins to change the world ... I think I've seen a similar plot in a couple of dozen films. It works a little differently though.

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A.Soldier of Light 26.11.21

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Something should always be sacrificed to achieve goals.
Neutral argument. In general, this is so, but the options here are curious. There are two of them: depending on what society and environment you are in) In one you sacrifice honor, conscience, etc., in the other - material benefits. You sacrifice one thing, you get another. As a rule, the opposite (good-evil) ...

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TTG 26.11.21

A.Soldier of Light
No less neutral. Undoubtedly, the environment has an impact on us. Like the color of the ceilings in your room. I never liked sofa philosophy) It's good when you understand, but it's not at all the topic to focus on. DOOM is coming out soon and then we will definitely have something to chat about.

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Evil Spirit Yambuya 26.11.21

Porn Elephant I want it even tougher, like in the Middle Ages, right now there is no world, everything is on the money, And before it was possible to hack to death a "deputy" and that's the end

This is such a conclusion, about the Middle Ages, you made after watching some movie like ala: "Robin Good "?

Yes, now we have, in fact, the same "Middle Ages" only allegedly "civilized", with the same: kings, earls, barons, peasants, slaves, servants and rabble. Only a little with different names and a bit in a different visual hypostasis.

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RussianQuaker 26.11.21

And by the way, even science is punished as in the Middle Ages. This is if someone did not know. Specifically, racology may fall under Article 282 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation

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Frostmir 26.11.21

Life is pain)))

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RussianQuaker 26.11.21

No, the pain is in the ass, after the first anal sex. I mean, if there was a * adult * man behind :)

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vlad_sherba 26.11.21

RussianQuaker
Spoiler "Is this pain, the army is where the real pain is!"

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Grimreaper 26.11.21

The strongest survives.