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Tom [Cat] 25.12.21 09:48 pm

Ending [careful spoilers] (Cradle)

And she's not there! [evil laughter]
The whole game is just delirium of a drug addict, some incredible trash! The whole game consisted only of cubes! Everything else is just to tie them somehow.

The ending just killed me! "I'll explain everything to you" and then there are credits, dull music and some people are coming.

The plot is something like this, gg and the falcon / eagle (I don't understand) is one whole, both have a hole in their chest, gg doesn't eat anything, only a bird eats, both were born during an explosion in the park. How and why is not reported. I just don't see the point, I have a wild fart burning.
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[LioN] 25.12.21

Yesterday I just interrogated the game ... I will not lie the ending for me to a greater extent remained not fully disclosed and did not explain part of the plot. Now I understand what Tom [Cat] was talking about ... The ending sharply shaves the game and leaves a lot of questions.

In general, after that, in the hope of getting answers, interpretations, theories or, at worst, at least some ideas! I decided to surf the Internet, and especially on the forums to find at least something ... But the result was not successful. And then I decided to ask Google for help, I started to enter different words into the search (from the name of the game to the names of the characters) and then it happened!

Let's all the same, to begin with, turn to the terminology and find out what this "Babylonian effect" is. V.E. - this is the same as telepathy, only not quite ordinary, it is anomalous (not considering the fact that telepathy itself is a phenomenon at all not ordinary). And so V.E. it is the ability to send messages / thoughts to other people directly to the brain, but also violating the laws of physics, as well as distorting space and time to send messages to the past. It was this effect that Mark himself studied, possibly even working with that very Dr. Koch (this will explain how Mark knows the doctor's phone number). Oh yes, the beginnings of this effect were formed at the first meeting of Mark and Idi. That was how it felt.

Next is the interpretation of the plot from Wikipedia, perhaps I'll start with the denouement.

When replacing the body for the boy Albert, Mark approached him and asked something. The tank with the boy's passion was instantly filled and he exploded. Before leaving, Tabakha hands over the key to the box, which has always been closed, which was left to him by his grandfather. In the yurt, Enebisch is looking for a message from his grandfather, from whom he realizes that he was adopted and grew unusually fast. Following the directions, he searches for the cache with the key to the chest with the parent's belongings and another entry. It turns out that the real son of his adoptive parents died in the explosion of the park. Soon the golden eagle brought a boy, who was named Enebish, and who looked very much like the deceased. Mark, who worked in the park, once talked about Ida, as if he feels between himself and her a certain "Babylonian effect", which the locals called simply falling in love. And Ida herself does not have time to answer about this, because she turns off,
Nabish decides to recharge Ida's battery in the park, after which the final cutscene begins. The camera highlights a poster and a newspaper, finding which (if not found so far), the player will read about the possibility of the movement of consciousness in time due to the "Babylonian effect" using a spherical structure in the park where toxin accumulates. Ida and Anabish connect with themselves in the past, when they were ordinary people, and Mark, the current Anabish, fell in love with Ida. Enebisch / Mark sends four digits to Babylonian Effect researcher Koch, signaling their danger. As a result, toxin explosions do not occur, as does the spread of disease. The future is changing and a crowd of people is shown to the player, going somewhere forward.

This is how Vicki is timing it, and maybe she's wrong too. It will become clear over time.

The crowd of people walking forward, most likely, symbolizes the future of the generations who were born after a changed past, where an epidemic of infertility did not occur. Or maybe even the most developers (since it seemed to me that a couple of silhouettes belonged to Ilya, Eugene and Roman, and the rest of the silhouettes of people who helped them) and their steps forward show that they do not intend to stop at just one game

The magic of numbers is still not clear to me, what exactly do they mean? Perhaps this is the date of some experiment, where it all started or did not go as planned (3.5.13); It is possible that a piece of the neurochip firmware code is encrypted in them, which could restrain the release of the "bittersweet" and block the emotions that cause it, and people would not be divided into "beautiful" and "ugly"; Perhaps this number denotes the maximum load on the human brain during the allocation of pasia. Well, or even it could be a password / code from something. And personally, it seemed to me a little strange that such important numbers that could change everything ended up in a simple Mongolian newspaper. Maybe the doctor was hoping to deliver this message to Mark? I never found another explanation for why they ended up there.

The secret of the protagonist also remains unsolved. But letting my imagination run wild, I took the liberty of putting forward my theory (I took the theories of Nemesis and KIRDOS as a basis), but first, let's look at the explosion and its causes. The explosion was caused through an unsuccessful transfer of Albert in which the system crashed and did not create a mirror so that the original would not communicate with the copy. Albert, seeing his duplicate, told him something, but what exactly? No one knows the camera did not record at that moment, but for some reason, stories about doppelgangers came into my mind (when doubles meet, they die). After the transfer was completed, Albert's consciousnesses finally migrated to the m-body. And he saw his dead body and his frozen face (remember Ida told you what else you need a mirror for). Naturally, a conscious 5 year old child could not bear such a blow, this led to shock, and perhaps this caused an attack of morpho-phobia that almost filled the capsule with pasia. Then he got out of the transfer booth and stepped aside and sat down on the outer tank to calm down. He didn't even notice how he was holding a toy sword with a holographic blade. Looking at the sword, Albert did not notice how Chagatai (the son of Dzhambul and Sarnai of the family from the yurt) approached him. The boy liked the sword so much that he began to ask Albert to give him this toy. Albert, not bewildered, thrust the sword forward, but Chagatay could not take it, because he wanted to take it by the blade. Albert smiled at the boy, and watching his actions, and suddenly Alber dawned on the thought that he did not have an attack of morpho-phobia when Chagatai appeared, his illness disappeared, he calmed down. At the same time, in the control room, Mark - making a request to the database for Ida Myers, he does not have time to keep track of the transfer and lets Albert out, besides, he notices an error on the screen that indicated that the mirror call was interrupted. And with all his might, he runs to Albert to find out what happened. Having got out into the courtyard, Mark cautiously approaches Albert and Chagatay, and asks the following question: "What happened there, what did you see, Albert?" From an unexpected question, Albert revolves in his head all the events that happened in the transfer cabin and again enters a state of shock, which leads to an unstable emotional state. The capsule with the pasia overflowed ... And so now we have three people at the epicenter of the explosion (and most likely there was that golden eagle Ongots, otherwise how to explain the hole in his chest), these were Mark, Chagatai and Albert, Well, and Ongots (how he got there I don't know, maybe he was somewhere nearby and sensed danger, and flew in to save his little master). Then there was an explosion, first a small one, which created an anomaly zone and ripped through a wormhole in space. During the explosion, Albert's body was completely absorbed by the anomaly, Mark during the explosion looked (and maybe even fed to save) at Chagatai, and Chagatai at Mark. What led to a partial transfer, that is, a part of Mark's consciousness mixed with the well-undeveloped consciousness of Chagatai, which created a completely new personality, after that Mark is also sucked into an anomaly, and Chagatai was lucky that the golden eagle pulled him away, this saves his life. The Big Bang created a cloud of desparotoxin, which not only poisoned the entire exclusion zone, but also mixed with particles of pasia in the anomaly. Everything that got stuck and mixed in the anomaly gave life to a completely new form of its manifestation for the flower “source” (Why “source”? Yes, I just couldn't think of anything better. And I translated the name of the game and chose a suitable meaning for its name. Moreover, the logo itself as if it tells us that the named games and the flower are somehow connected). And after all this, the entire anomalous sphere is overgrown with "sources", including the body of Chagatai and Ongots. The "source" makes a hole in the chest of Chagatai, and its roots go deep into the body, the same thing happens with the bird. The “source” resets the boy's age, and he becomes a child again (only with a hole in his chest), and this effect does not work on animals. Then, after a few days of sleep, the golden eagle wakes up and brings its rejuvenated owner home. Then the grandfather of the deceased Chagatai appears in the yurt and decides to take the child up. Despite the strange sign of his life, a hole in his chest with a flower inside. And Bunjin (grandfather) gives the boy a strange name Enabish which means - not that, that is, in short, that the boy is not a robot and not a thing, but a living person! As for the names, I'm not kidding, it's true, for example, Ongots means an airplane.
The GG draws his life and invulnerability from the anomaly. Therefore, Nabish loses consciousness if he strays too far from Gerber Garden. The genometer has no effect on him because he is only half human. Its genome is too complex and intertwined with the "source". Therefore, our hero decides to make a transfer, which turns out to be unsuccessful. And the transfer module erases Enebisha's memory ...
This is my theory and pulls it into such a healthy blog.

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UmiToko 25.12.21

[LioN]
Well, you screwed up . Only I have 1 question: Who is he to? - "It erases his memory."

And here's what else is strange. After all, everyone knows that black balls fly in the epicenter area, approaching which the GG becomes bad and is thrown away like a shock wave. And if you notice that there are only three of them. Those. all these three spheres, in my opinion, are the souls of those three people who were at the epicenter - Chagatai, Mark and Albert. They turn out to be something like ghosts of the past or something, tk. the explosion happened a long time ago, and they are still there. And judging by the color, they are black, like a bitter passion. (I think it would look like this)

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[LioN] 25.12.21

Ikora Sorry, I
didn’t elaborate. Correct
As for the ghosts, this may even be quite possible, if you come very close to the shadow, you can hear a dumb whisper ... But only I saw two shadows at the same time (although in the game they are called black cubes wandering around the park)

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UmiToko 25.12.21

[LioN]
here the author of the walkthrough also sees three shadows at once So everything can be

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Nemesis 25.12.21

[LioN] Did a

good job.

I think the identity of Enebisch reveals the document about the semi-animals - Children of the Universe. But very few people found him

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OculusMortem 25.12.21

The game has two endings. The first one is available to everyone - just run through the quests, the game itself will lead to the ending.
The second ending opens only through the efforts of the player, thanks to the analysis of all the information that is in the game. In this case, a new quest becomes available ... And despite the fact that even an inattentive player can accidentally get it, in order to complete it, it will be necessary to send that information.

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ZoomI 25.12.21

[Chemist2006]

Tell me about the second ending

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OculusMortem 25.12.21

ZoomI
I only know about it from the developers ... I don't know how to get it. I will look for.

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Nemesis 25.12.21

What other ending?

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[LioN] 25.12.21

Nemesis
Chemist2006 Yeah
, the developers made fun of the fans by confirming the second ending. Immediately after the release of the game on the second day, it became known about the second ending, and I even know where it all came from. In the official game Wiki, you can even find confirmation of the second ending, only so far no one has found it, but this is "for now."
I also knew about the second ending, and even thought to write about it, but I got so carried away by the story of GG that I forgot to mention it.

Well, gentlemen on the lookout!
Ikora
Maybe. Anything can be.
By the way, the screenshot is from my blog.

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Shamatrin Dmitriy 25.12.21

Still, most likely, the second ending is still tied to those same flowers. And some notes. And the second book about the white flame can be in business. She's too weird to just lie there.

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Guy in shorts 25.12.21

about the endings from the developers

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UmiToko 25.12.21

The guy in the underpants The
message is not fully shown, what's at the end?

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cheshire_cat86 25.12.21

There is no second ending, unfortunately. And additional texts can be found in the steppes, according to the developers.

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Vasily Sedov 25.12.21

I agree with you this is what I found: In 2050, on July 25,
a release of dispertoxin occurs during the emulation of consciousness in Cologne.
The epidemic "Lilith" begins, which makes people sterile. The only one
who foresaw the tragedy was Helmut Koch. To complete his work, he
only lacked a calculated constant consisting of four digits. He
did not calculate the constant , so the scientific community did not accept his work.

To combat the epidemic, it was decided to move the
consciousness of people into "m-bodies". It also turns out that people in "m-bodies" with the help of
emotions produce the only substance that can fight the virus -
this is a passion. There is a "bitter" and "sweet" passion. It cures the virus exactly
"Sweet" passion. For “beautiful people”, people with a good gene pool, the amount of
“sweet” prevails over the amount of “bitter”. And "ugly" people,
outsiders, sometimes unwittingly explode, thereby spreading the virus. Therefore,
they are turned off or sent out of town. But "beautiful" people often have
panic attacks - errors in the processor. And "ugly people" better endure these
same panic attacks. Therefore, "beautiful people" are somehow restored at the
expense of "ugly people". But that's not the point.

So that's it. A
Mongolian family lives in the steppe in a yurt. They have their own golden eagle, they hunt hares. Nearby
is the Hangai research station, which is studying the "dumb point" in
human, telepathy between people with 100% DNA match.
Mark works at this station , and he befriended a Mongolian family. It is worth noting that
Mark began to deal with the Babylonian effect, "because of that incident with Ida." What
case?

On September 4, 2053, a
son was born into a Mongolian family, who was given the name Chagatai. Mark made friends with him too.

Somewhere in 2056, the
construction of the
Gerber Garden medical complex begins on the site of the research station . Children with mental disorders will be treated in it - they had an
extremely developed sense of beauty and visual perception and (obviously for
this reason) they could not stand the sight of human bodies. Here it is worth remembering the text
Children of the Universe. In general, the Universe created such children because the
human body ceased to meet the standards, and it [the Universe]
began to reject this "irregular shape" in this way. But people still
treated these children in a special way in this “Gerber Garden” hospital. They were forced
to assemble the human body piece by piece, and then a
mirror transfer was made to consolidate the result . Those. transferred their consciousness into "m-bodies".

On August 15, 2058, a party of children arrives,
accompanied by a psychologist named Ida Mayer. One of the children, a boy
named Albert, went into trouble during the transfer. The problems were in the
automation - this child did not block the ability to speak, and he
talked to my copy. And talking with your copy
will not lead to anything good . Despite this, Albert came out of the transfer cabin calm and did
not bode well for trouble. Albert was given a holographic toy sword after the
transfer. He sat down on a flower bed and a
five-year-old Mongolian boy Chagatai approached him , who entered the territory of the hospital with Mark
(after the research station, Mark began working as a transfer operator in the
hospital). Chagatai asked for a sword from Albert, and he gave it to him. Later
, Mark came up to Albert and said something to him. Albert turned to Mark and exploded. 20
minutes before the explosion, Mark made a search query in the name of Ida Mayer. Apparently he
remembered about her, about how they met in Geneva. This meeting turned out
to be very important for him. Apparently he was in love with her. And what Mark said to
Albert that he exploded is unknown.

Chagatai's father wanted to get
his son out of the blast zone. He hoped that the golden eagle would do it, that the golden eagle
would pull him out. But soon the father and mother of Chagatai die from the release of dispertoxin,
without waiting for the return of their son. Chagatai's grandfather, Banjin's grandfather, lived in the city. Having learned about the
death of the whole family, the grandfather is going to come to this place, to this hospital and
yurt. But she doesn't plan to stay long. Just pick up your things and go back.
Here he arrives on August 18, 2058, three days after the tragedy. August 20
of the same year, a golden eagle appears, which brings a strange baby. Both the
golden eagle and the baby have a strange body structure - a hole in the chest, and a flower in the hole. The grandfather
accepts both the baby and the golden eagle. The baby is unusual, growing by leaps and bounds. In
two weeks I got up on my feet and is already going for a walk somewhere at night. His grandfather gave him the name
Enebish. In a month, the baby has grown to the age of five (the age when the
Mongolian boy died ) and became wildly similar to the deceased Chagatai. Then growth
returned to normal. The golden eagle also brings Enebisch a neurochip from the blast zone. This is
Ida Mayer's neurochip. The kid, seeing black clouds, hides the neurochip in a box, and
then in the sand. It still seems strange that neither the golden eagle nor Enebisha
The explosion zone in the Garden does not in any way, although the influence on ordinary people (and even cars) is
negative.

We play just for this
strange Enebisch, but already at the age of twenty-three. The action takes place in
2076. The game begins with an unsuccessful attempt at transferring Enebisch. He wanted
to perform the procedure in order to find himself in a new body and in a
new place (in Ulaanbaatar), but nothing came of it, because he does not have an
HQ (a number that determines the quality of the gene pool, or a number that
shows the ratio of sweet passion to bitter) required for a
normal transfer. The golden eagle also has no HQ. We recall the
strange structure of the bodies of both. Due to an unsuccessful transfer attempt, Enebisch loses
memory. After, he wakes up and tries to remember everything. As we understand, my grandfather did not
become back in 2072 (I was ill due to the impact of the explosion zone, namely, dispersotoxin),
so we live alone. In general, we find that Ida Mayer neurochip, which was
hidden in childhood, insert it into the m-body-vase and begin to figure out what's here and
how.
After examining all the records, we understand that we can
change the past and avoid an epidemic. To do this, you need to send 4
digits to the past - the Koch coefficient. We send these numbers to the past due to the epicenter of the
explosion in Gerber Garden, which has strange properties, including the ability to
send signals to the past. And we transmit these numbers through Ida, which
pre-place in the center of the explosion. Enebisch asks Ida at the end during
a thunderstorm how she feels. She says she feels anxiety
("Babylonian effect"). This means that she has established a
telepathic connection with herself in the past (DNA match - 100%). So you can
transfer the number through Ida. However, she herself knows about these numbers. In the past,
Ida, through falling in love, which activates the "mute point" and
telepathy, transmits information to Mark during their first meeting, before the outbreak.
Mark sends these numbers to Koch. And that's all. There is no more epidemic. Apparently
Enebisch is not there either.
The question is ambiguous, which allows for different interpretations, only one.
What is the nature of Enebisch and the golden eagle? Where did they come from? Perhaps, I agree with the fact that
Enebisch is an anomalous compilation from Mark and Chagatai. And the anomaly does not
take him and Disperotaxin, because he is a product of this anomaly. And
he cannot go beyond the boundaries of the steppe, because the anomaly, the sphere holds him. In support of the
compilation - Enebisch's dream, Mark's recollection of that fateful day when he
met Ida. Enebisu's mind came from Mark, and his appearance from Chagatai. And the
golden eagle simply mutated under the influence of an anomaly when it flew to save
Chagatai.

Author - Nikita [Kit] Varnakov

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xermitos 25.12.21

I have a slightly stubborn idea about these black lumps of energy, and it consists in the fact that they are nothing more than the next stage of human evolution - a pure, unified consciousness without a body. It is not for nothing that in the final video a person (Ida?) Turns into such a lump. Those children can also be weaved here, they were disgusted not only by the appearance of the human body, but by the very fact that people are still in them. People, conducting their experiments with the transfer of consciousness, violated the natural process of evolution (the transition was supposed to occur later, this is evidenced by the gradual appearance of the ability for telepathy in people - the Babylonian effect as a path to a unified consciousness, and children - the next step, generally had already as explicit the rudiments of a unified consciousness, and aversion to physical bodies). Passion is the "substance of the creator" (it can give life or take away - it also contains a virus and its treatment, opens holes in space-time, etc.), and acts as a catalyst for evolution, and that is why at the epicenter of its explosion (and not in a simple epicenter, but at the very pole emotional field of the planet), not only new life forms (such as the "source" flower) and by-products-mutations (such as Mark-Enebisch) were created, but also evolved versions of Mark, Chagatai, and Albert, which we see as clots. During the gameplay of the game, the Universe, by the forces of its messenger - Enebisch (it was not for nothing that the grandfather wrote that Heaven has its own plan for it) corrects an error in the course of human evolution, made by the person himself (there are many "successful" coincidences for this process). Enebish is one with Mark, Chagatai, Albert, Ongots, Flower, and bunches - their future versions. That is why he cannot leave his "cradle" - the Gerber Garden (Cradle in translation means Cradle, and that is why the flower in the logo is also the cradle of Enebisch's consciousness). Enebisch constantly and unsuccessfully tried to leave his "cradle" and get into the city from dreams (after all, Mark is part of his consciousness, who strives to the city and to Ida, and Ongots is a free flight bird). And for people, the cradle is the body. The chorus in the final song sounds like "Come out of the cradle", i.e. grow, go ahead, evolve. The people in the video go ahead and evolve as a result. Enebisch constantly and unsuccessfully tried to leave his "cradle" and get into the city from dreams (after all, Mark is part of his consciousness, who strives to the city and to Ida, and Ongots is a free flight bird). And for people, the cradle is the body. The chorus in the final song sounds like "Come out of the cradle", i.e. grow, go ahead, evolve. The people in the video go ahead and evolve as a result. Enebisch constantly and unsuccessfully tried to leave his "cradle" and get into the city from dreams (after all, Mark is part of his consciousness, who strives to the city and to Ida, and Ongots is a free flight bird). And for people, the cradle is the body. The chorus in the final song sounds like "Come out of the cradle", i.e. grow, go ahead, evolve. The people in the video go ahead and evolve as a result.

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OculusMortem 25.12.21

cheshire_cat86
No second ending, unfortunately.

I have already replayed the game 30 times in search of ... // _- And now it turns out that the ending is purely on you and depends. Those. if you do not understand nichrome - one ending, and if you understand everything, then you eat it differently ... Great EPT. -_-

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mascot 25.12.21

Here is another, in principle very intelligible, analysis on a third-party resource.
http://igrasan.ru/proxozhdenie-igr/razbor-syuzheta-igry-cradle-i-opisanie-koncovki-a-takzhe-vsyo-pro-vsyo-spojlery/

And I just didn't understand where the numbers came from.
And I did not understand about the fact that the girl was herself, she sent them, and the guy already looked)

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Yulia1012 25.12.21

passed in 5 hours, not quite everything was clear

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FixControl 25.12.21

mascot, the girl sent these numbers to Koch, and not to herself. He studied the danger of the emulation of consciousness, but could not calculate some constant important for the scientific community. In one of the notes in the yurt there is an article by Koch himself about this, they say, if he had the opportunity to send SMS to himself in the past, he would have sent these four numbers. Ida sends them to him and the scientists stop the experiments.