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Kalo Nord 25.02.22 06:15 pm

Where is the weak link in my PC

Hello! Assembling a new PC is now very expensive and I'm thinking of doing a small upgrade. For example, I play
Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order. On average, frequent friezes, especially when entering the game and when running. Here is my config:
Intel Core i5-760, 3200 MHz (24 x 133) MSI NVIDIA GeForce
GTX 1650 4GB
RAM 16GB
OS on SSD Kingston SSDNow V300 60GB
HDD for games Seagate Barracuda 1TB (2016)
percent Plus I plan to check the HDD, but it will not help the case. Thanks in advance for your advice!
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Be3yH4eG 25.02.22

Of course, Prof.

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ArkisH122 25.02.22

Here you answered correctly, percent old. Upgrade it, and for now it's fine if you only play Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order.
I recommend the i5-10400f. (He has a different socket, look at your motherboard)

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Kalo Nord 25.02.22

ArkisH122
I think I will move to AMD Ryzen 5 3600, it will be the first AMD in my life

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Be3yH4eG 25.02.22

KaloNord
It is the same as the 5 10400f but priced higher. Take a look yourself.

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Palych Rokov 25.02.22

KaloNord
Your whole computer is a solid weak link and everything in it is useless for games, but with regards to Jedi Fallen Order, the friezes and starters are wild and unplayable on my core i7-5960x@OC, 64gb RAM and rx 6900xt, and these friezes and starters are on out of the blue it's not clear why

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01001000 01101001 25.02.22

KaloNord
Now 12100 is taken. No need to collect any 10400 corn. And even more so rubber, then take 5600X, the only normal series for amd (5000). 5600X on Ali for 18-19 with coupons is torn out. Plus the board and memory for 12 thousand. Total 30. 12100 intel (11 thousand) + board 10-13 thousand and memory 6500. The box has enough cooler for 12100 or buy it for 1700 for the OEM version. Ryzen should be bought on AM4.

BEFORE!!! Stutters (stuttering) are fixed by enabling triple buffering in the nvidia control panel. Also, turn the shader cache size to "no limit". This is required for all games on the UE4 engine. And transfer all the games to the SSD M2 already, and send the HDD to the file trash.
And the percent is really ancient, weak. 4 cores is a shame.
In general, go on Google, if it doesn't help, in the English forums for the query: "star wars jedi fallen order stuttering"

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MunchkiN 616 25.02.22

BEFORE!!! Stutters (stuttering) are fixed by enabling triple buffering in the nvidia control panel. Also, turn CACHE shaders to "unlimited".
with a shortage of video memory, triple and weak current buffering will hurt worse. plus she can slow down the speed in the game lol. its on nada always off. caching of gamers I really don’t know what it does, but it’s also better globally in drivers.
tangent shdd ssd in the main, according to my understanding, games while the paging file corrects. if these are prolags during dynamic loading of the location, then the processor can participate there. if friezes and hiccups out of the blue it is already more difficult there. I didn’t play in star wars, fall order, and I don’t know how he works there for pitch.

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Be3yH4eG 25.02.22

01001000 01101001
Which 12100? Have you seen his specs? Or current price? 4 cores and 8 threads. Quite a cookie?

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Be3yH4eG 25.02.22

Watch the tests, consider the budget and collect yourself! Good luck!

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Kalo Nord 25.02.22

Be3yH4eG
and what do you say that i5 11400? I watched reviews, they write cheaper and in games it overtakes AMD 5 3600.
I haven’t been interested in hardware for 5 years, my eyes run wide

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Max P 25.02.22

KaloNord
Just take a mother on a b 550 chipset so that there is support for PCI express 4.0, immediately take 2x16 RAM.
And of course it is better to take the R 5 5600 X.

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Kalo Nord 25.02.22

Max P
dramatically increases the budget on the R5 5600. I’ll look at the boards, found on the B560, right away with PCI 4.0 and NVMe, the total for 11400 is 27k, plus the SSD and RAM need to be added

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01001000 01101001 25.02.22

Be3yH4eG
Be3yH4eG wrote:
Which 12100? Have you seen his specs? Or current price? 4 cores and 8 threads. Quite a cookie?
I saw it, GREAT PROC! On a budget, your 11400F rips. Excellent performance per thread, not like the 10400 corn cores. The core was and remains an important characteristic of the processor. It gives higher FPS in single thread.
Then it easily changes to 12400 / 12600! When 10/11 the corn streak is already leaked.

KaloNord
NO WAY! 11400 is terrible. Either 5600X (18-19), or 12100 / 12400 for money.
11400 is a terrible controller, very high voltages, it drags partly in synthetics and work tasks. The fee must be taken at least B560M PRO VDH. And this is already 13 + 10 memory 6500. I owned it, changed it to 10400F. But it would be better to take 12100F. Under your card behind the eyes. And then you can change it to 12400 (conditionally 13400).

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Denis Kyokushin 25.02.22

KaloNord
If you are going to take a Ryzen 3600, then look for RAM strips with the lowest timings, and so that you can overclock them. RAM latency depends very much on timings / sub-timings and frequency. So that at least it was 3600 MHz and timings 15-15-15-35 tRC could be reduced to at least 60 ns, and tRFC to 520-530 ns.
The Ryzen 5 3600 has a heat dissipation of 65W, the 3600X has 95W. The higher the heat dissipation (TDP), the more likely it is to dissipate this heat, that is, it is easier to cool it
. And an M2 SSD is also desirable. You can buy at least 500 GB. There are games like Horizon, it's better to put them on an SSD. Licensed games can be transferred from one disk to
another

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Be3yH4eG 25.02.22

KaloNord
Norm! Excellent pro! I play and enjoy! 11400f- Z590 gigabyte board + 1660 super + 3200 mzh memory. And everything is great!!? Just take only the mother on the z 590 chipset! Yes, a little more expensive, but keeps everything ok!

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Loken 25.02.22

Denis Kyokushin wrote:
The higher the heat dissipation (TDP), the more likely it is to dissipate this heat, that is, it is easier to cool it
If the physical laws of the universe have not yet changed, then vice versa.

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Denis Kyokushin 25.02.22

Loken
Loken wrote:
If the physical laws of the universe have not yet changed, then vice versa.
TDP is a kind of "window" through which heat escapes. And the larger it is, the more it can be dissipated, it is easier to cool

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01001000 01101001 25.02.22

Denis Kyokushin
Denis Kyokushin wrote:
the more it can be diffused, the easier it is to cool
. That's the problem. We need a good intermediary against this background, because no one has canceled the thermal resistance, as well as the quality / implementation of the transmitter. We transfer heat to the environment. The higher the difference from room temperature, the more efficient the heat transfer. Your theory does not work in principle and sounds unconvincing. The LSS is put there because water has a higher thermal conductivity than air. And the aluminum radiator has a large heat transfer surface + fins. The air has limits, and requires fans and speed for its heat removal, and if the resistance of the LSS is only a copper base and immediately the water circulating in the circuit, then the cooler is much sadder.
Heat dissipation - zhor processor. With less power consumption and heat dissipation, there are more productive processors.
It is very stupid to buy 3600 / 3600X against the background of ryzen 5600X from aliexpress. Despite the fact that the 10400F is not inferior to it, and it has a better controller, lower power consumption. And against the background of 12100, 3600X generally rests.

Be3yH4eG wrote:
Norm! Excellent pro! I play and enjoy! 11400f- Z590 gigabyte board
Right now, I would buy junk. Yes, and Z590 glucobyte. What a news. Why do you hate him so much?

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Loken 25.02.22

Denis Kyokushin
"Window" is the heat dissipation area. The larger the area, the easier it is to remove heat from it. We have processors with the same design, so this parameter is out of the discussion.
And TDP is a direct requirement for heat dissipation, the higher the TDP, the more efficient the cooling system is required. But not vice versa.

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Marsj 25.02.22

Hurry up with the purchase of new components. DNS is down. The exchange is closed.