Your opinion about HDR in games?

Lodurr
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Dogma wrote:
live need to look for a pinched vent screen you will not see anything
In this case, to the bulb.Come two screenshot in 1080p and 720p, any game, give a damn about.

Lodurr
despot of the old Quake 2. Now our PC is invisible in performance, but the example of new games and you could do the same probably, I don't know (new games I have on my PC are not going).
The essence is simple: lower the video resolution in the game and get LESS graphiste picture, but the game is starting to fly, more FPS, less brakes. It has always been, for example, you can take and Quake 4, where the graphics will be better, the essence will not change.

So:
1) Here the original size of the pictures in the game in a screen resolution that I put in the options: 400х300:



2) I took and spread the same screenshot (400х300) to 1024x768, got about what we see in the game (pixelated garbage):



3) I changed the resolution in game to 1024x768, and that's how smoothly and clearly it looks already:



The point in paragraph 3 is clearly higher than 2 =]

A. Soldier of Light wrote:
Here is the original size of the pictures in the game in a screen resolution that I put in the options: 400х300:
Why is the size of 183Кб? ))
I put the minimum size to 800x500 fallout, and Choate changes no, neither visually:
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Neither technically:
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The only change is the weight image:
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And who is in resolving 400х300 weight 183Кб. xD))

Lodurr
Choate and no changes at all, neither visually:

the difference in your screenshots is obvious.

Lodurr
Show me.. and I'll tell you why you fuck. )

Tell me, I listen carefully ))

Dogma wrote:
the difference in your screenshots is obvious.
Here is an obvious difference:
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In the same game in the same resolution. )
But it is not the difference, and adjusted for scale. On the monitor 1200r to put 640р in 1:1 scale, not physically possible.

Lodurr
Fallout: New VegasFallout: New Vegas:

1) Set in game resolution of 800x600, did the screenshot. It's clear that the picture turned out this resolution, but the point is that *in the game* this visually affects the game.
Opened photoshop, there stretched the image to 1364 (I'm in this game for some reason, this is the value, not 1366), to compare with the maximum of the second paragraph below. That looks like 800x600 in the game I have:



2) Here the image resolution in the game 1364х768, looks clearly:



"Why is the size of 183Кб? ))"
Don't know how much should it be?

Lodurr wrote:
I put the minimum size to 800x500 fallout, and Choate changes no, neither visually:
You visually see no evil? Just like that the game changed the resolution from full HD to 800x600 and did not notice anything? ^_^ Don't believe never, it's nonsense.
SO, I opened both of your images separately from the spoiler in this thread (spoiler changes the resolution of the image to adjust the picture under the topic, here the algorithm) and what do I see? The first image is just 800x600, the second is FullHD. It is immediately evident that FullHD better. If you monitor supports FullHD, and you put the resolution back to lower like 800x600 and not notice the changes, you're either lying or you have problems with vision.
By the way, the newer games can use more new technologies that minimize the difference. If you meant it, then it is clear. But when you say that the game does not change resolution, get ready to receive a portion of the evidence to the contrary, because the statement is too loud) need to Clarify what I mean. And please, no insults.

Lodurr
But it is not the difference, and adjusted for scale. On the monitor 1200r to put 640р in 1:1 scale, not physically possible.

Honestly you're an idiot or joking? In the sense that it compares the difference in the same scale. Scale is determined by the vertical resolution, not the aspect ratio of the screen. For example, for the source is taken 1080p vertical. Take a picture in 720p or 600, 500, 900, 703 p vertically, no matter what the horizontal and stretched to 1080p and apply very close to 1080p. the picture with which to compare.

A. Soldier of Light wrote:
Don't know how much should it be?
Definitely less, no? )))
Your assertion is based on the fact that you run the game in full screen 1080p, and lower resolution. Of course the graphics will get worse. But if run in the appropriate window, then nothing like this happens. Even the game start is not necessary, go to Upton and change the resolution however you like. )
Graphics improves screen resolution, and the image standard HD, фуллHD, ультаHD.
УльтраHD for 4K must be 4K resolution, 10-12bit color ITU-R BT.2020, HDR, the corresponding discretization, the corresponding video codec. Here it improves the graphics, and even full HD games, they look better. )
And one of the permissions does not change anything.

Dogma wrote:
and stretch up to 1080p
That's it, and that you are doing. ))

Lodurr
Lol, ugarayu over you. Probably why people take 1080p monitors to play or watch a movie in full screen, but by your logic, adjustment scale if Monique 720p , you can just in the window to play the split-screen (on a smaller scale, as you put it) and will have the same full hd. Well, then, yeah, OK))

Dogma wrote:
Probably why people take 1080p monitors to play or watch a movie in full screen, but by your logic, it is necessary for 720p
LOL, are you saying.

Lodurr
LOL, are you saying.

It's adjusted for scale))

Lodurr
Open my two screenshots of FNV in a separate window in full size, so it will be clearly visible difference in the game. Here is a spoiler itself reduces pictures are not fully visible.

PS
Took your two screenshots, cut a separate suit of power armor and that's what we see:
power amogs site radical pictures see everything here? )

1) From the skinšote with 800 × 600 resolution, a screenshot, without changes:



2) From the screenshot 1920x1200:



3) And here from skinšote with a resolution of 800x600, but increased in the image editor, stretched to fit the size of the piece of the screenshot in FullHD. Compare with paragraph 2 and all will become clear:



I can only conclude that the algorithm in Fallout 4 better quality and changes the game without significant changes. But they are still noticeable. And the older the game you take, the more noticeable the deterioration of the game from changing the resolution. That's what I meant.
Lodurr wrote:
go to Upton and change the resolution however you like. )
A perfect example of Bravo. Why? Because I'm from there's a lot of rollers rocked and continue to rock ) And you know what... AHEM, there is a significant difference between 720p and 360p the same =] Not to mention 1080p and above.
So the question: and what for it was necessary for you to contact us in principle to argue that? ^_^
Lodurr wrote:
That's it, and that you are doing. ))
The game is doing. Video mode fullscreen, right?
And who said that we should check in a separate window, which will change its size resolution? In this sense what is and what is that supposed to show?
Lodurr wrote:
Graphics improves screen resolution, and the image standard HD, фуллHD, ультаHD.
This is a common word, a generalization. If I launch the same Quake 2 on a 2K monitor, in fullscreen 400x300 resolution, will have the same pixels, I'm sure. Unable to dissuade me, if you want ) For example, I showed you how it works.
Lodurr wrote:
And one of the permissions does not change anything.
Lie: changing the graphics, it can be seen in the screenshots.
Lodurr wrote:
and reduce the resolution. Of course the graphics will get worse
EE and ??? What was required to prove, thank you ツ
You are just contradicting yourself, it's not even funny...

A. Soldier of Light wrote:
From skinšote with 800 × 600 resolution, a screenshot, without changes:
A. Soldier of Light wrote:
From the screenshot from 1920x1200:
And where is the difference? 800x600 looks even clearer than that.. because the picture is smaller. )
You still take a magnifying glass and look for the difference. xD)

A. Soldier of Light wrote:
And who said that we should check in a separate window
Well, probably because 360p is not 1080p, the size, no? It is also the aspect ratio of 4:3, not 16:9.
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A. Soldier of Light wrote:
For example, I showed you how it works.
I also showed how you do it. Let the same thing will show on the example uptube:
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Pull 360r full screen 1080p, and claim that you have graphics worse, it is pure idiocy. You still think I insulted you? Then you're a moron, and the conversation becomes meaningless, because..

Lodurr
If you had read it, that this nonsense would not be carried.
Well, if so easy to understand things for you nonsense it useless to argue with you - you're one of those people who will drive themselves into the swamp to the last but would not recognize that the above blurted out utter garbage

XcomX360 wrote:
Well, if so easy to understand things for you nonsense
No need to exaggerate, I understand simple things. )
And the reason why I wrote in my first post, the price of UHD monitors. And I understand your nonsense, this is another attempt to prove that you raised the resolution allegedly played in 4K, these fake flood the whole uptop. For what you are? it is also elementary. want, but the price is pricked.
So no need to tell Shaw I don't understand simple things. :S)

Lodurr
On Monica I would not say that the price kind of prohibitive. 23-24 thousand rubles already have options for 32' 4K to VA matrix. Video card is expensive here, at da.