Why the game added absurd things? (Elex)
In the game there is no any signs of the level monsters and quests. What prevented to divide the quests by levels, easy, medium, hard, impossible. What prevented to indicate the levels of monsters? One humanoid kills you for 10 strokes, the other for 1, from where should I know what a mob like hits? If you want realism then do not enter the humanoids who odnorukij vanscott.Why does the game not display on the map all the available jobs? Even in real life you can on the map to denote goal labels. Why it was necessary to combine the inventory with talents, perks and skills? It is not practical, pointless, uncomfortable.
Why at the time of sale there is no division of objects into groups? Potions, debris, materials, documents, all in one GIANT pile to find what you want to sell.... Nafig need teleporters, they look ridiculous, not vpisyvaetsya in ENT, where it was better to make the system fast trevala in Skyrim. With the HS designation on the map too decided to be original, the arc indicates the direction of the player when partner close his round coming at your and you have to zoom the map to understand where to go, the arrow in 2017, is not comme Il faut?
To the heap, Why the RPG was removed a full description of the talents? Talent to strengthen arms from where should I know it gives 3% damage, 10% or 30%? Why can't I see how many points I have health, stamina, mana, armor? Sense to hide this information?
Not played the Gothic, the absurd has done, that the game was similar to the old game? Don't understand why this is necessary, because the complexity then increases, tighten a little passage and makes the game less comfortable because of the pathetic interface.
Is it possible to enable PIP fight to put the game on pause?It was a major update and I don't have time to watch...
Mishka2002
go Gothic 1,2,3 then you'll easily Elex.And not passing them to whine?).Example I mass effect started with the second.and immediately after 2 was third 3 times.then the resonant part 2.The point is that I don't ask questions of why the flow level there.If you need LVL. that is Borderlands.There are level bosses,quests and weapons.
Svetoslav
And your in the middle ages was a magical crayons, dragon undead, and dead gods? OK! The peace prize is not received?
Svetoslav wrote:
the literary course with the use of images
Which leaves realism as a concept in General.
Realism — the direction in literature and art, whose goal is faithful reproduction of reality in its typical features.
moblin
Well, what are you stupid... no One was supposed to come
Understand first what distinguishes realism from reality and to look smaller in Wikipedia.
Svetoslav
The transition to the insults without any arguments, Oh well... one of us is stupid.
Svetoslav wrote:
No one was supposed to come
Where come who is to come, what are we talking about?
Realism is not a value you can measure.
And judging by the fact that it was written by you, saying that the DS is more realistic than Alexa from this we can conclude that realism as such is present in DS. That can be easily refuted, highlighting every aspect of the game, comparing with the real world.
moblin
Yeah. Hard case. It was not an insult but a quote from the movie reflecting on what you did not understand what I told you, that is, I tell you one thing, and you tell me about something else entirely.
ps. Pavlik, Pavlik had to come....
Svetoslav
Do not go off topic to quote.
You yourself spoke about the realism.
Svetoslav wrote:
It was not an insult but a quote from the movie
Quote abusive. Please, this role is not to apply to me
moblin
Do not try to explain to me what is real and what is not. Just try to understand what I'm saying. That's how people that he would rather believe in what is happening on the screen, if it obeys the laws of nature of our world, even if it looks like a mythical creature. But if you see things in everyday life, but their interaction with the world is contrary to the laws of nature ( for example, having received numerous blows with the axe NPC does not respond and continues to move and swing your arms as if nothing had happened). My first thought upon sight of this, which occurs in humans, this loss of sense of reality, because it just can't be. Simply put, one is much easier to believe in the existence of dragons and the undead, even if he had never seen than in the fact that people can survive after being struck by an axe to the head. It is in this vein, DS is much more real Eleks.
Ps. And I'm not saying that DS is a direct reflection of our reality, I only said that most of these contradictions are glaring and compelling to not believe in what is happening in DS much less. There are all harmoniously according to the invented universe. And Alexa in this plan of complete chaos.
Svetoslav wrote:
That's how people that he would rather believe in what is happening on the screen, if it obeys the laws of nature of our world, even if it looks like a mythical creature.
Hmm... looks like I'm not included in this unified scheme of human device, as if I see the screen that is not physically possible, I can't believe it.
Svetoslav wrote:
But if you see things in everyday life
I agree but what I see in DS is not a walk in the notion of everyday things, as I am never in a window not seen anything that is in the DS (not counting the stones, grass and trees)
Svetoslav wrote:
My first thought upon sight of this, which occurs in humans, it is the disappearance of your sense of reality, because it just can't be.
But now in all seriousness. When lost sense of reality it's a psychological disease (Derealization)
Svetoslav wrote:
Simply put, one is much easier to believe in the existence of dragons and the undead, even if he had never seen than in the fact that people can survive after being struck by an axe to the head.
Exactly the same can not believe that in the first case, in the second. A possible reason for this is that I do not suffer from this disorder.
Спойлерhttp://psihomed.com/derealizatsiya/
P. S. for me is not really all that it is not possible to prove in a scientific way. (Faith and Religion in particular).
moblin wrote:
I agree but what I see in DS is not a walk in the notion of everyday things, as I am never in a window not seen anything that is in the DS (not counting the stones, grass and trees)
So that's what I said to DS, we don't see everyday stuff, but nevertheless, they are mostly subject to familiar physical laws, unlike Eleks, where we can see things in everyday life, but where all interaction is contrary to physical laws. Therefore, in DS the world is fabulous, nobody in their right mind and will not say that it is real, but it was his according to the laws of nature immersed in this world as in a literary work and not fall out of it, that is, it is perceived as a whole quite seriously. And Eleks and similar games in which there is a conspicuous contradiction of known laws, it is impossible to fully immerse yourself and be taken seriously, because despite the apparent povsednevnoi, in these games, too much absurdity.
moblin wrote:
Exactly the same can not believe that in the first case, in the second. A possible reason for this is that I do not suffer from this disorder.
I can only sympathize, as any fantasy, science fiction and stories pass you by. And no disorder, nothing to do with, do not confuse a bulldog with a rhinoceros, you just have a problem with imagination.
moblin wrote:
for me not really all that it is not possible to prove in a scientific way.
modern scientific way, can prove not all phenomena of nature that occur in life, but doesn't make it not real because we can observe them, but can't explain.
moblin wrote:
Belief and Religion including
Bigotry has nothing to do with the topic of conversation.
Mishka2002
Amadeus Weidmann game designer and screenwriter of Piranha Bytes:
In addition, we want to force the player to think. We will not be here detailed tutorials, explanations, nobody will lead you by the handle. Something we explain, of course, but not too much — to much the player will have to walk myself.
This is because a significant component of "fun" — to get to something on their own. Say to yourself "Oh, OK, I can do this!" or "Oh, look what I found!", "Oh, so if you kill this guy, then that guy will be an additional quest." We give players the joy of research, we are not going to explain everything in the first 20 minutes, and then get to doing the same for 30 or 80 hours. The priority of depth, not easy to learn, a small group of connoisseurs, not the widest possible audience. We use a completely different unpopular approach to the creation of the open world. Our main objective is to make the player always find something interesting wherever he went. "I've got a mini-map, and it has a lot of marks, and I have to go to that to make something"- no, that's not our game.
Myself: you are a representative of a new generation and so that that you a minus for us plus, this game differs from other RPG should be happy, not another trivial which is boring. For me personally, in the same Grand Witcher 3 the fight will be MUCH worse because everything is easily exported endless rifts, if desired, only worse dull zaklikivanie.
None of the piranhas never talked about realism, why even talk about it if it is about ELEX.
Svetoslav wrote:
modern scientific way, can prove not all phenomena of nature
Example.
Imagination and loss of sense of reality are two different things, as you yourself noted
Svetoslav wrote:
do not confuse a bulldog with a rhinoceros
Svetoslav wrote:
but it was his according to the laws of nature
there are no laws of nature apart from incitement and attenuation of fire, all.
moblin
I could cite many examples, but they go beyond not only the topic but the whole forum.
Yes, I realize your narrow-minded thinking. Further discussion is pointless.
moblin wrote:
there are no laws of nature apart from incitement and attenuation of fire, all.
Don't complicate things by such nonsense. Apparently, you are very weak any idea what the laws of nature.
Mishka2002 wrote:
In the game there is no any signs of the level monsters and quests. What prevented to divide the quests by levels, easy, medium, hard, impossible. What prevented to indicate the levels of monsters?
Mishka2002 wrote:
Why does the game not display on the map all the available jobs?
My child, your hand to hold and sopelki wipe?
moblin
Decided to clarify the situation, because they see that we are talking about completely different things. You can not catch the main thought that I try to convey to you. Well, let's look at the example movie, but not games, so you will be more clear. Take, for example, the universe of the Lord of the rings. There is also magic, dragons and giant monsters, but the audience came to the session, not screams - fu trash, do not believe it does not happen, they are not real because I haven't seen them on the street, and so it can not be. The viewer normally perceives what is happening on screen, not because he has a mental disorder, but because it takes the world created by the author of the painting, as a valid alternative reality that is quite right to existence, maybe in another time and in another place, but it is possible. To say otherwise is a fool. But if the screen will be things contrary to the laws of this world, well, for example, from the water surface is wet, fire burns, and the blow with the sword of the flesh, it cuts, and stone, can also be deduced. That subject to these basic laws, and makes the viewer believe in the reality of the situation. (Here I want to note that what you see outside the window, is reality, and reality is not reality, it is mutually agreed the appearance of existence. Reality can only be one, and realities, as much as necessary). Return to what if these laws of interaction, even in a fantasy world will be violated, then the viewer will never believe in the possibility of the existence of such a universe, so this will be a quickie. Now, as to “our sheep”, in the games the same, in particular Dark Soul and Elex. In DS, such slapdash moments is much less than in Alexe, this means that the world of Dark souls, more real than the world of Eleks. That's exactly what I said from the very beginning. How could you not understand, do not know. If after this, you continue to insist on it, I wash my hands. More clear to say I can't.
Svetoslav
And I can't understand how you can be more or less real. It's either real or not.
Svetoslav wrote:
The viewer normally perceives what is happening on the screen
And I'm normally perceive, but at the same time I head realize it's not real, but that does not negate my interest. In fact this is me and there is interest, it is unrealistic to events that are not routine, which I can see on the screen and no where more.
Svetoslav wrote:
not because he has a mental disorder
If a person has an interest in what is happening on the screen, but in the subconscious mind, without even thinking about it, people understand that it's fiction then Yes, not a clinic. But if the person starts to believe in it all, it's a disease and its symptoms, I was thrown off if you don't believe literature ask the doctors. I frankly nothing else will prove the person who argues with scientific work.
Svetoslav wrote:
Apparently, you are very weak any idea what the laws of nature.
Absolutely no idea.
Спойлерhttp://www.pois.ru/zak.htm
What of all the above described is in the DS? (if you even read this)
moblin
Everything is clear to you.
- It's either real or not.
With a person who thinks so, I have nothing more to say. Everything in life works much harder, it's not binary, it is either black or white, absolute good or evil. Maybe someday, you'll understand.
And stop already to refer to questionable websites, learn how to use their own minds.
Svetoslav wrote:
it is not either black or white, absolute good or evil
Yes, but the reality is not included in this group of criteria. You don't see on the street something real and something not quite real. Those unicorns aren't real, most likely I'm high? That something, or what?
How do you imagine it on the example of good and evil? One side is evil, but if you look from the point of view of another person is good. But the reality how? On the one hand it is real, but if you look on the other hand it is not quite real.
I haven't never met.
Svetoslav wrote:
questionable websites
Refer to the scientific literature in the description, and the races you're so smart, go out in the world summits, the human mind to reason, teach, ETOGES they are the books are written in a root do not agree with you, why did you tell me this is the RUB, for me the authority of scientists and not purely your opinion.
Svetoslav wrote:
to use their own minds.
I know how to use your mind and I know how to use the knowledge accumulated by mankind over the centuries of its existence (with which I agree by the way), something you clearly don't want to do, refers to the fact that they are not right, but you're right.
will fit in your conversations and in your dispute.
there are several elements which lead to the proof. the world we see is not real and is software, an artificially generated world like kompyuetrnoy games, only billions of times superior obychnyy computer game (for example, the same Witcher 3 or horizon).
Stanislavich wrote:
which lead to the proof
There is no evidence of this, it is only a theory.
moblin wrote:
for me the credibility of scientists
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