Voting for moderators is fair pvp. The analysis of the duel. Decision-making. (Diablo 2)
Please treat this issue seriously, with no personal animosity to anyone.The purpose of this topic is to come to a common decision among the moderators on what action needs to be taken after the controversial pvp under zhah rune.
The objective of this topic is to make the decision how to proceed the moderator pvp fair when he judges pvp runes.
Reply in this thread to all users but the solution will depend on the actions of moderators fair pvp:
*oztaahh*pirya*shikari88*b[e]happy*-pvp
The situation is this: two players invited moderator fair pvp to sue their pvp on rune according to the rules of fair pvp.
Answer the following questions to complete the answer + if you want you can justify your answer and add comments.
Example:
*Question: Should the moderator fair pvp before to take bets from players, to clarify the details and conditions under which there will be pvp, while taking the consent of both players to adhere to these details and conditions?
*Response: Before you accept a wager from the players, the moderator fair pvp needs to clarify the details and conditions under which there will be pvp, while taking the consent of both players to adhere to these details and conditions.
*or Response: Before you accept a wager from the players, the moderator fair pvp should not specify the details and conditions under which there will be pvp.
1.1. Whether the moderator is fair pvp before to take bets from players, to clarify the details and conditions under which there will be pvp, while taking the consent of both players to adhere to these details and conditions?
2.1. After the players passed the rate moderator. Can the moderator edit/enter new conditions and details of pvp?
3.1. Whether the right moderator, in their opinion, if you suspect one of the players in violation of rules to require him to provide evidence of his innocence by providing the player screenshots of your screen or other personal data?
4.1. Should a player before you hand over the rune, know the conditions and details of the upcoming duel, which is not in the rules of fair pvp?
5.1. Should the player confirm that he agrees to play by the rules of fair pvp with the specified details and conditions of the forthcoming duel?
6.1. After putting the players bet, the moderator changes the condition/detail, in which there will be a battle. Does the right of a player to refuse to play under the new condition/details and pick up a rune?
7.1. After putting the players bet, the moderator changes the condition/detail, in which there will be a battle. One of the players refuses to play under the new condition/details. Does the right of the moderator to award that player lose, and to give rune his opponent?
8.1. Moderator suspects one player of violating the rules of the server and requires him to provide a screenshot / other personal data. Does the player have the right not to provide a screenshot/other personal details to prove his innocence?
9.1. The player is not willing to provide screenshots/other personal data. Does the right of the moderator to award the player defeat or change the bill duels?
10.1. Moderator suspects the player of violating the rules of the server refuses to provide a screenshot/other personal data. Do you consider it right in this case to continue to judge the duel, without changing the account/ not awarding the kill, but to inform about your suspicions?
Now, as to specifically duel for 30.11.17 between players *pk and *vy, the rate - rune zhah. Moderator dynamix (*-pvp). The players passed a bet, get ready to pvp. The moderator said to write when players are ready. The duel had not yet begun.
2.1.Do you feel that the moderator dynamix (*-pvp) until acceptance was to inform the players that in case of suspicion of violation of the rules of the server, the moderator may require you to provide a screenshot of your screen and otherwise loses?
2.2. After dynamix (*-pvp) took bets from players, and up to date rates are not informed about the conditions of the forthcoming duel which is not in the rules of fair pvp. Do you feel rightly that dynamix (*-pvp) changed the terms of the duel, with non-refundable rates?
2.3. After dynamix (*-pvp) took bets from players, and up to date rates are not informed about the conditions of the forthcoming duel which is not in the rules of fair pvp. Do you feel that the moderator dynamix (*-pvp) was to ask the players consent that they agree with the terms of the duel, while in case of disagreement of one of the players is to give the opportunity to return bets to players?
2.4. Do you feel rightly that knowing players in violation of the rules of the server, the moderator dynamix (*-pvp) demanded to provide him with the screenshots, the failure of which led to the defeat?
2.5. Do you think it is right that in case of disagreement of the player *pk(pirya) provide the screenshots of the moderator, in this case, the moderator should have been given the opportunity to return bets to players?
2.6. Do you think it correct that the moderator dynamix (*-pvp) for the opposition to provide screenshots player *pk(pirya) to prove his innocence, awarded to the player *pk(pirya) defeat?
As for judging this duel the moderator:
3.1.Do you consider the actions of a moderator dynamix (*-pvp) legitimate?
3.2.Do you feel that the moderator dynamix (*-pvp) have exceeded their authority?
3.3.Do you feel that the moderator dynamix (*-pvp) react to the player *pk(pirya) with prejudice?
3.4.Do you feel that the moderator dynamix (*pvp) used the position of moderator for personal purposes?
3.5. Do you feel that the moderator dynamix (*-pvp) to deny rights and opportunities to moderate fair pvp game?
3.6. Do you think that moderator *pirya to deny rights and opportunities to moderate fair pvp game?
With regard to the rates, runes zhah:
The moderator gave rune the player *vy, but the difficulties to agree to return the player *vy moderator dynamix (*-pvp) no rune. Imagine that there is such a possibility.
4.1. Do you think that rune zhah was transferred to the player *vy illegal, and it should be returned to the player *pk (pirya)?
lait_one
A condition - give a screen - play do not give - or do not play it get lose , or try to get out of the situation with the score 0-1. Screens are I saw.
lait_one
My altlanta when doing the screen, freezes the game. But managed to do it.
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dog
the dog, well, why the bots to create. even if you follow your logic, and the score would have been 3-1,suppose the moderator had to request at the end of the screens, too, and is especially important with the winner. This was not done, and even completely from beginning to end is impossible to call that the moderator had judged the duel, it was a series of infinite demands and exceeding their powers by the moderator.
pirya
I would in your place would not have agreed to these conditions initially.
PS:sorry no screenshots entirely. cut the phrase out of context would not work because we do not see the name of the game in which it was written. And Yes, push admin to deprived dynamite moderki. Well JAX you can not see anyway.
lait_one
The theme with the screen - all nonsense. Perhaps experienced users can't do photo editing so that no suspicion was not? For example, in the theme of the distribution of the runes there's a lot of screenshots of fake edited.
yok0o
and let you now lay out these screens intact, undiminished, thus confirming his honesty.
pirya
I don't keep screenshots, and Poberovskii screens show exactly the same chat that was shared
Alo you your skryne circumcision put the hero th you cut them there ahh?? triangles probably ashamed to show?
and how odd I would be a little hard to believe you have a map on circumcision the screen is open even at the edges never believe that you've been running himself opened the map...
yok0o
so that is 1 chip why if you don't play with cheats you have necr is on your screen with the words Piri outside the map? more precisely, parallel to the water is necr and his Golem? justify is the kid everyone is waiting impatiently for your answer it will be very interesting to us!?!?!?! each takto smart moved the map supposedly without the pale, no one will notice. and 1 more thing where I can prove what you've tried duel was himself MKH know where? here in the place where the plan de Corones. on the screen there is a Shrine on the right just below the corral and you don't have progruzheno ie if you opened a map running on it, he would progresista you're not even able to do so was not asleep on such a small heresy, but notably has consumed you my friend. now even cut it and throw it up here rather place a label on it will put the MX when you open the card does not show Shrine they need to come to progruzil ie so you to help
And here is a screenshot of the plan de Corones. where he circled the entire map
How do you pale yourself huh? rules isn't it MX failed to hide the truth? here's the thing Yes dinamiks? you were sleeping hard
Allres wrote:
moved the map supposedly without the pale, no one will notice
blue cross exactly on char
unnecessary screens I delete immediately
cheat for the full sweep of the location ( duty fire post ), I haven't played pvp at that time, the card with the triangles in PVM I showed you earlier, and somehow nothing has carried
and Yes, could not be well advised to study the rules of punctuation, punctuation marks have an important role, gentlemen
We had to carefully prepare) In the screenshot you can see that the shrine icon on the minimap is missing. Now try to do the test without cheating, try to open a map to not display the icon shrine)
This is impossible unless you use cheats. Then let us now to sell a game about screens, comrade moderator.
Sоmberlain
hard to look with them on then
pirya wrote:
so, citeron, however
Cicero in PVM, I confess. In pvp basically no, many years.
pirya wrote:
In the screenshot you can see that the shrine icon on the minimap is missing. Now try to do the test without cheating, try to open a map to not display the icon shrine)
So. Shrine icon is not displayed only in case if it does not come close. However, the sides of the card in the wrong place somehow open.
From this we can conclude that the dynamics is exactly the same cheater as Pira, and all his the fight against cheating - flimsy excuse to sue biryu. May not only sue, but also earn runes.
Didn't expect Antonio.
Sоmberlain
the fight against cheating in pvp
in PVM citerat without exception, but if it is to continue to discuss the topic rubs
and Yes, I'm ready to be punished for cheating on the common law, without any problems
as kvr said, ban triangles does give all users the soft ban for a week