About love
What do you think about this phenomenon? How feel about him? If it exists at all for you? In General, it is interesting to hear your opinion about it, stories from your life experiences and everything related to this battered) And Yes, I know, that was thousand of this kind of topics but I want to hear fresh ideas those who wish to share them.On topic :s
Mnogabukav.
It zagovornye to holes word everyone knows, but at the same time, everyone understands it differently. The child is first confronted with this explosive, vivid, strong sense can take in love the man is older, has your life experience begins to realize that it is something more, a married person can completely forget about something important, leaving only what is practical in everyday life, creating some business attitude at home. But in these reflections I am going to share my personal view about this, of course with great power sense.
How do people generally form their idea of love? It is obvious that the first experience of relations, and relations we often put up with anyone from your environment. Some people have experience in this case weak, or even bitter. Reasons may be different, but often they is that people do not understand each other, self-centered, and as a consequence focused on themselves, do not want to understand, cannot respect, is not able to be friends with his companion. This type of relationship is often superficial, and if this is the first experience a person may be in the future, blind, it can a very long time to make love for the pacifier, and even to project your bad experience on any other potential relationships. But this is a terrible mistake, understand that everyone can love everyone. But with someone you will be with someone more complicated. This degree of complexity determines the similarity of people to each other, to find a completely similar people is almost impossible, in any case have to catch up with, to sacrifice, to work on myself. On a shared track will be a lot of tears and a lot of pain, screams of jealousy, but also there will be a lot of help, joy, laughter, support. Anyway... if the person expects relationships in a long life, it is very hard work, people who have been able to do - in many ways heroes.
With more close to the scientific point of view, love is a highly sophisticated tool which allows us to find a suitable object for procreation and caring for their offspring. Our life is all about in the end to this, and who is not... well, they will be oblivious forever. From birth we learn, work, working, looking for a mate, and all the hard work that we've invested for a life well lived - it all boils down in the end to give the child life and good conditions for its subsequent prosperity. Love is not only chemistry and psychology, biology, and maybe even something else, who knows where you wander science. It includes so many emotions, chemical reactions, and psychological aspects, behavioral styles and social interactions - it's all just indescribable to the human mind, therefore, in the absolute sense, every new love (relationship) is unique.
Can't miss the fact that is not mutual love, which is often called the obsession with human sexual attraction. It is hardly love, but it can be converted in real, sacrificial love if the other person will reciprocate. And in General, it's a great feeling capable to the emotional devastation of a man, when it's obsession or divided feelings can even lead to death.
And specifically about love in my whole understanding. Whatever love is, it will have three basic elements, we can say fundamental is friendship, respect and sex (from an innocent kiss or sharing Nude photos to heartfelt, deep sensual love making, all this determines the level of intimacy). Everyone is different, one extroverted, the other introverted - two poles. We all have different temperaments and overall personality. And we love all differently, some are too bright, smartly, quickly losing feeling, have someone slowly and steadily, stretching amorous feelings for a long time. And feelings, in relation to a person, affection is all you can destroy and rebuild, nothing matters except the desire - whether you want to be with a man or not. So very important and maybe even more is the memory of who was this man that did what he felt and so the Memory of what he/she was beside you and not anyone else, the memory of what this man did for you that you have experienced together, etc. Love the paint, dust, feelings, and even the desire to be or not to be with someone - it's all dynamically change during the relationship between people, but will never leave the memory of all, what happened between you.
Love is like a child, a child that is cared for by both men, and if any of you will have to invest their labor - the child will suffer, and if at all will be complete indifference - a child may even die... Love is able to survive countless years and a great distance as the bacterium in unfavorable time forms a protective shell (dispute), able to withstand a lot, but you should give her the right conditions... as it will again revive and flourish. We continue to love even those who are dead. Love makes us change the way wouldn't have made nothing else, it forces us to be better, to conquer it impossible for us peaks, it causes us to be sacrificial for once as the stranger, which are the others that roam around us every day, like ghosts.
This is one of the greatest powers given to mankind, appreciate and use it from the kind and pure heart.
. And here's another in my experience, we're on it rests, I have no sexual contact learn about man enough to understand that the person to put it mildly a complete d* and sexual contact is not necessary.
Guys, you know Schaub, sexual contact with a man who, to put it mildly a complete d* can even be very exciting and enjoyable.
And by the way... hiring a hooker, you want to get to know her rich inner world or to satisfy their sexual needs? Heh. heh...
It is necessary to share - chickens separately, the eggs separately.
Garrus-1994
I now actually interesting, the level of intimacy?
Subjectively, the person just feels it. I suppose that this feeling is determined by the degree of confidence in the pair, the degree of openness, sincerity, sexual depth, etc., are all determined subjectively. I think that in General we can call it a degree of emotional connection, attachment, desire
Then I actually wonder, well I know a lot about a person...Yes, everything, and he loses interest to me, then I have no reason to know him closer,right?
The human interest is of interest, though know his whole biography, but love you anyway. In life there are many examples when people were together from age 20 to the end.
Why would I want this person to be, if in my eyes he lost that flavor for which I was with him and started their relationship?
Love is the instrument of reproduction, nothing more. To do this, there is a reasonable premise, because in real life all this is done, as the simplest argument in favor of my words - in viruses, the only thing that makes them alive is a machine for reproduction. From viruses to humans, all that can be called alive to strive in eternity, that is to reproduce. And everything revolves around that, all these ishitani, in the form of stinging cells in jellyfish, or the mating dances of birds, the presence of a developed consciousness, abstract thinking, etc. - all this just so we could exist in a dynamic environment, and thus they proliferate.
A person can know another person that he is ,say, a full R* having lived in marriage of 5 years, and again they may have stormy sexual life.
Of course you can have violent sexual life, but it does not have anything else, for example respect, or friendship, and I'm talking about these concepts in a broad sense. Love rests on many things, and she can't stay on one thing, we can afford to suffer anything.
How do we know that this man, deeper understanding of the other person, eliminating these banal human cognition, like favorite color,car, flowers and other elementary cognitive acts?
Perhaps that is why we as outsiders can't know, because it is a subjective sensation available only to those who are inside a relationship. From all your words it seems like the essence of love do you think knowledge is so?
And why you don't share?
Because love is a feeling, a certain relationship, and sincere love is cheating in one way or another, yourself or your companion.
Tea with Lemon
What can I say, of course, love exists. Otherwise, all people have killed each other, because people by nature are selfish and ungrateful, after all.
She has many expressions and faces. It is versatile and beautiful. Maternal, friendly, brotherly-sisterly love to the opposite sex or their same sex, etc.
About my life experience in relation to the opposite sex: someone I love for 8 years now and I can say that all this bullshit about the fact that love lives 3 years... on the Contrary, I experienced a whole range of feelings in all that time and love is not diminished or how to call it :)
PS Perhaps due to the fact that as a child I was given love, now I fully surrender to the power of this feeling and I like it.
EVIL PLAYER
Love is a beautiful word invented by people in order to describe something beautiful and strong feeling between people.
Fantasy Cat
... because people by nature are selfish and ungrateful, after all.
Well I wouldn't say that people by nature such that people are all different) Someone can be called selfish and evil, some don't)
On the contrary, I experienced a whole range of feelings in all that time and love is not diminished or how to call it :)
Yeah, you're right, it can be a lifetime with us and you are very lucky it seems, I wish you to be together arbitrarily to the two of you, until the end of life, or eternity ;))) Nice to know you all so well) You live together?
And so, I'm specifically talking about love for the opposite sex) I do Not know whether the people of homosexual orientation to feel the same, but as far as I know gay in the scientific sense, it is at the level of genes gay, that is must be able. In General, you know what I love) If you've read my big text in the first post.
Tea with Lemon
We're married, ahah, will soon be officially 2 years. But if, informally, it is 6 years old add:)
Read-read:)
I am pleased that you are happy for me:) You too good I always wanted as soon as we began to make friends within the PG:)
Fantasy Cat
I know I will develop offtopic, or else you will be given a yellow card, for the appropriate violation of in the same topic) But anyway I say finally that although only GHG communicated, and that is not enough, but anyway I want to smile for some reason, as an old friend to see chtol)
Vanya Rygalov
Guys, you know Schaub, sexual contact with a man who, to put it mildly a complete d* can even be very exciting and enjoyable.
Can't. How can you make contact with the man, and even more sexual if he disgusts you? G* all nasty,right?
And by the way... hiring a hooker, you want to get to know her rich inner world or to satisfy their sexual needs?
We are talking about love with a further outcome, not sex for one night. Would also need to distinguish between. And prostitutes are not a complete d* only physically. Many of them are beautiful. We mean that man is g* not in the physical plane. Why would I want to know her inner world, if it's her job and I'm not going to build relationships? Devoid of sense.
Tea with Lemon
I suppose that this feeling is determined by the degree of confidence in the pair, the degree of openness, sincerity, sexual depth, etc., are all determined subjectively
Well done. However, you ought to understand that excessive say frankness and sincerity harm relations. However, the relationship is built on lies, worse than true? If falsehood so like the truth, then how can a man be happy? Oh...the answer of course is happiness in ignorance. Most worthless answer. As said Griboyedov stupid people are happy to madness, and smart Woe from wit. The less people know the less the demand. And then the question is, why develop if thou shalt be deprived of happiness? And because relationships are built on lies, better relations with the truth. Where as if the level of openness, but at the same time it will not.
The human interest is of interest, though know his whole biography, but love you anyway
That's it, that interest. And any interest can all be lost when you learn something what you don't want to know. Suppose you love chemistry. But I realized that I get it. Interest is lost. And with man. Found out for example that a loved you man is a thief and leaving immediately) the Moral background, like I was stealing/stole to feed his family, of course justify, in the eyes. However, if you already had one lie, why not be more? The trust is broken.
Love is the instrument of reproduction, nothing more
Seriously? Then why is your first post and do dispute with me and all these type expression love is the expression of beauty? Instruments of reproduction is sex possible without love. It would not make sense to sing of love in many works of writers. You essentially insulted them now. What is the General attitude? Well, let's do it in the harem of the Arabs. 100 wives, they to us gave birth to the child. And that's all. Enough with them. Its function of breeding we have done. If love was just an instrument of reproduction, people would not aspire to it or sang it as the Supreme sense, and that sort of thing. In fact, you're now brought us directly to the animals. Many males dance, or kill each other for sex with a female. After mastering the female is no love there can not be. Whereas in fact our love is only veiled by the reproduction instinct. And then there is the sense of his praise.
Love rests on many things, and she can't stay on one thing
A mother's love do not are kept. Mother loves us for what we just are. And Yes this may develop narcissism. That's too bad. However to deprive someone of motherly love is even worse. In fact, if you do not love the father, then it's not scary, because his love can be earned as well as losing. With the parent, everything is easier, but where is fatal. If the mother doesn't like you, I figure we will get it. But if we and our mother does not love, we are the obvious losers. However, to lose a mother's love it is necessary to try.
From all your words it seems like the essence of love do you think knowledge is so?
Well, isn't it? Man has a thirst for mystery, and therefore the very essence of knowledge. And love stands as one of the ways of human cognition. How can you say you love, say kiwi, if you never eat, i.e. don't know her taste? Correctly in any way. Although unable to lie. But this is what I wrote above.
and not sincere love is cheating in one way or another, yourself or your companion.
If you do not know that you cheat, then it ceases to be deception.
Garrus-1994
How can you make contact with the man, and even more sexual if he disgusts you?
Heh, heh... Looks like little else you've lived, man. Sometimes it is necessary to have... Later on he will understand.
G* all nasty,right?
There is little nuance, which you, again,because of their small life experience is not taken into account. Shit man can be for you personally, not others. All tastes and ideas of shitty human qualities are different.
We are talking about love with a further outcome, not sex for one night.
Not. no, no... Dude, you are talking about love with a further outcome, not sex for one night. We need to look wider, do not limit yourself to the Puritan framework. Love comes and goes and want sex always...
Vanya Rygalov
Heh, heh... Looks like little else you've lived, man. Sometimes it is necessary to have
I've lived enough to reject your arguments. That means you have to have? You boss was forced to engage her in sexual intercourse. In simple contact I can understand and even survive it, communicating with g*. But to engage in sexual contact...there is no sense experience. He then, in principle, with it? Is your whole argument? Experience? What makes you think I haven't? Why didn't you think I was just on the other pose information, and simply have a different experience? And then he will understand? Will I be forced to engage in sexual contact with R*? Thank you even so experience I do not need. And I can only sympathize, if you have the experience. And if you have a simple human contact R* about it I wrote above. Entered many times into contact with people like that, but certainly not going to engage in sexual. If you only hunt to satisfy their sexual needs by joining with a man, even if he is g* , then your will for me to experience not needed.
Shit man can be for you personally, not for others
Tell me, why didn't you consider that a person can be for all g*, but not to me,hmm? Why, since you have such experience? But what about General morality, morals that turn a person in f*, failure to do so? And now, most importantly...what do I need the opinion of others, if I decided for myself that with this man I will love and he to me R*? Why would I consider the opinions of others? They are not the same and I was intending with this person to make contact.
Love comes and goes and want sex always...
It can be seen, in your vast experience :D
detonator
Love is just a chemical reaction in the body, that's all.
Biochemical :D And still scientists have proved that at the level of biochemistry, the love match for ROC)
Garrus-1994
You boss was forced to engage her in sexual intercourse.
Heh, heh... it Was.
Experience? What makes you think I haven't?
Well, it is so obvious (not for me), what is clear - a child is young, pure and naive. By the way, and so often we use the word g... (probably other unknown) confirms this.
Dude, trust me, I'm not in any way want to offend you, pointing at your small life experience. In matters amorous, too... It's just a fact that as the years goes by, unfortunately, its price is high. Experience does not come alone. In company with him going skepticism, the hypocrisy, the loss of ideals.... wrinkles and decreasing the number of frictions.
I'm just having fun, not trying (unlike you) to convince anyone of the correctness. Too serious about idle skirmish in the network? Fuck nadot.Forget it... and enjoy.
It can be seen, in your vast experience :D
About a goat read? Mental vesci...Heh. heh...
detonator
Simply and tastefully. Very, very... intelligent (not bydlizm).
Vanya Rygalov
I'm just having fun, not trying (unlike you) to convince anyone of the correctness
Still trying to convince someone of the correctness, it is foolish to deny. And who does not so poorly informed in this matter. Because actually do not have enough arguments to sway.
Fuck nadot.Forget it... and enjoy.
A fun fact from what? From communicating with you? That is, if you would, say, Freud or Nietzsche with Schopenhauer, or Adam Smith. Then Yes, I would have been clearly useful information from the conversation with you, and experienced of course fun. And then what to get it? From trolling? Yeah trolls can and small. And not even successfully. To subtly Troll in these conversations, you need to have a sufficiently large store of knowledge. But I rarely Troll) it used to be such, Chu to be honest :D And when I first signed up here and he came under trolling. Well, I didn't know that was possible. It happens to everyone) Then he mastered them, but I use it rarely. It's obviously almost always use)
About a goat read? Mental vesci...Heh. heh...
Sobbed. Such a story. Yes you are a romantic way. But also boilers in hell mend...well, just a man with rough-handed, I think. and high :D because to say though the proletariat, but highly moral sensual))
Garrus-1994
Still trying to convince someone of the correctness, it is foolish to deny. And who does not so poorly informed in this matter.
Dude, you probably can't or just don't want to understand one simple thing. In such wonderful places in this cozy swamp the shoutbox, all in all...we be, nobody is interested in anybody's opinion except his own. Awareness here is absolutely not necessary and even harmful. Here you can write about the splitting of the atom, about the biblical Canon, about politics (until the master is sleeping), about love... not even having the slightest idea about these things. It's like a fence, on which you can write anything. I agree to write a word from three letters do not need University knowledge enough to know the alphabet (not even all).
Because actually do not have enough arguments to sway.
Heh, heh... are You serious? Although it may be boyish...
A fun fact from what? From communicating with you?
Mentioning about the pleasure, I mean yourself, a loved one. On the feelings of the interlocutor, to me, by and large, to spit. For me it's just entertainment - so... pet the goats against the grain. Innocent fun.
And yet... heh, heh, you never cease to answer me. Masochism? I don't think...
From trolling?
Label - without me. Neither democracy... her mother.
Yeah trolls can and small.
Mr Obvious?
And not even successfully.
And do not care... Nobody cares about anyone....(read above).
It's obviously almost always use)
Maybe I will not argue. But to draw conclusions for the other person, deciding for him what and how he does it - what's that?
Sobbed. Such a story. Yes you are a romantic way.
Mogem ishsho some FAQ. No, we sho cancer legs oblamalsya.
But also boilers in hell mend...
Never thought that so popular that I re-read my writing.
though the proletariat, but highly moral sensual))
My e! I'm just an angel... with a sledgehammer. Heh, heh...
If you broke up someones ass drunk, it
your sad story does not prove anything. nefik was out there like, with lots of drunken brutal macho
My e! I'm just an angel... with a sledgehammer
Ptushnik
Vanya Rygalov
In such wonderful places in this cozy swamp the shoutbox, all in all...we be, nobody is interested in anybody's opinion except his own
Ahhaha...but perhaps in real life not so? If you remove, say, power and wealth,huh?
And yet... heh, heh, you never cease to answer me. Masochism? I don't think...
And rightly so, don't think. Masochism something other than what's going on here. In terms of the physical, and say so in the mental.
But to draw conclusions for the other person, deciding for him what and how he does it - what's that?
It means to decide for him. And this is a sign of sadism. And when you consider that the subject of rights in relation to the object on which directed this solution, then there is nothing to argue why.
Never thought that so popular that I re-read my writing
Well, my friend, do not exaggerate their persona. I have a good memory. Because it is written at the time, funny, that's memorable)
My e! I'm just an angel... with a sledgehammer.
Not...the angel tresno. Especially if you take the angels described in the Bible is real then...they are worse than Cthulhu and krugger, and many monsters. So there is nothing to do in Paradise, and even with such strashilki. It's better in hell...where it's warm. And monsters there though will be the norm. Time place is bad. You have a sidekick that is in Hell, except for Lucy?
Garrus-1994
It means to decide for him. And this is a sign of sadism. And when you consider that the subject of rights in relation to the object on which directed this solution, then there is nothing to argue why.
Again, I will not argue. You learn quickly, my young friend-sadist. Think so -your right. Probably, as mine is to stop our conversation. I'm willing to forgive a lot companion, but not his rudeness.
Therefore, goodbye.
Grewal
My cute little rat, thank you for remember about me. And I still love you. Kisses for your hairy face.
all peace and lubvi!
Vanya Rygalov
My dear brother
vasan you really torknuty) kiss my hairy... well, you understand this))
Grewal
Heh, heh... So, we Rygalova you including torknuty). And really. This is our family treasure. By the way, your furry...well, you understand it)) have kissed the floor of Romania, and the other half stood in line and dreamed about it. Impossible dreams - 2 euros for a kiss... hairy, not cheap.You were little, don't remember. And we're not sickly then earn, your furry...
Mohnatik you are my beloved. Provider...
Vanya Rygalov
buddy you hour in my childhood head on the corner of the building was not hit?))
Beat, beat... And not just on the corner. You know, why ask stupid questions.
And it's... you're starting to bore me a little in their monotony. If you do not come up with something outrageous, really rygalski more with you Gutara will not.