Technocrats Vs Humanities
In dealing with the techies had to deal with the opinion that technical science is much more difficult in understanding than humanitarian. Thanks to the techies we have all the benefits of our civilization - electricity, heat, modern appliances, etc. and all the techies who drive the progress.A good engineer can be a humanist and humanitari a good engineer can't.
Had to meet opposing views.
They say these geeks-techies on what is not capable. Only understand their physics Yes sopromata, and in everyday life - people are useless.Whether business - sociology, political science, Economics. For them the world is kept
What do you think. Whether to divide science into more important and less important.
The angular velocity is not always constant, is Einstein
What is the difference, how to change angular velocity? The ratio of speeds and moments will still be constant. And the transfer function used in the links of the harder gears.
In General, what are you trying to prove?I can now access some documentation,a book, and you distribute the terms,theorems and so forth things clear only to me.
Well, if your terms, theorems etc things are purely humanitarian or economic, and I really do not understand, you will prove to me that I'm wrong.
And I bet that you and such things in the same English language I do not know perfectly as present perfect and pastes Simpl or prepositions for example.
English I know well enough and cannot judge. Understanding of application time articles comes from experience, and no brain-breaking things in the technical Sciences, there. The only difficulty is to learn a whole bunch of words.
What is the difference, how to change angular velocity? The ratio of speeds and moments will still be constant. ---brilliant.But why do you say that?It denies the existence of the transfer function for the mech systems?
gear.---well, means something consisting of a large number of links.
Well, if your terms, theorems etc things are purely humanitarian or economic, and I really do not understand, you will prove to me that I'm wrong.--I meant about the answer immediately.Without preparation.I just the term you the answer.Well, you can shemku to throw..but in PM only.
English I know well enough and cannot judge. Understanding of application time articles comes from experience, and no brain-breaking things---Feel argument to nowhere... I don't agree with it.Sometimes the offers are not much different from examples.Does not mean that if decided(guessed the answer) randomly one example, decide that the other is not knowing the material.
The only difficulty is to learn a whole bunch of words.--if Yes.)Then all the techies need to know at least one foreign free.
In General, I'm leaving.Contact in PM if you want to get some pattern or something for the affirmation.
It denies the existence of the transfer function for the mech systems?
No, but not all of the fur. system are studied by TMM.
I meant about the answer immediately.Without preparation.
Clear. You don't even remember what we're arguing and what you are trying to prove to me.
see post 19.10.11 19:09
Clear. You don't even remember---Yes, I remember everything.Just do not know why go to a show-off, saying that if you saw what I saw, you would not say that.
19.10.11 19:09-----the only thing that will hinder the scholar say to understand the postulates of Maxwell's lack of knowledge in mathematics and all.If you give him take a course in mathematics,I think it's this easily be done,in principle, just as mathematics lies the whole difficulty-it is necessary to link these equations with the fact that you're studying.Now here's a question...you're studying in technical University.Never there teach-freaks didn't notice?--a Grand knowledge of math(for example),but the behavior as a child(this is only one of many possible examples).
Yes, I remember everything.Just do not know why go to a show-off, saying that if you saw what I saw, you would not say that.
When you say that in technology there is nothing more difficult the tensile strength and nitriding, it is necessary to go into details.
the only thing that will hinder the scholar say to understand the postulates of Maxwell's lack of knowledge in mathematics and all.
And I said, still do not understand if you before two years have not studied higher mathematics. Besides not the fact that the Humanities in two years this will understand the amount of Matan mere mortal can not afford to smoke. One time I was tutoring, so believe me - some even a school course of mathematics does not understand what they no need to explain. And what math in school, you know. One name.
and humanitari a good engineer can't.
Can. Moreover, it is engineer - able. About specialist in trushna Matane, Matysik - also can, but will have to sweat a lot more. The rest - I agree with the first position.
Besides not the fact that the Humanities in two years this will understand the amount of Matan mere mortal can not afford to smoke.
Will understand, no need to be smug. There is nothing complicated there.
One time I was tutoring, so believe me - some even a school course of mathematics does not understand
The reason is what? Because the school teaching math illiterate again because the students themselves it is not taught, almost no one - two. Don't forget that Tutors are hired typically the most-slackers that hope to buy knowledge for money in the shortest time.
Could you elaborate? He couldn't see who got how many soldiers died of hunger, and who put rifles? I somehow find it difficult to imagine the reasons that difficult to understand. Maybe he just had an opinion on this subject (not history of exact Sciences, therefore, allows for an interpretation)?
He was not able to project in mind the overall picture of what is happening (speaking in General), remember who and how, but not know why. Just learned the points as a poem, but to develop them in the exam could not.
still do not understand if you before two years have not studied higher mathematics
Speaking of crusts. For a techie to learn you need to keep in mind passed earlier.
In Humanities, each topic is pincipe can be learned separately.
In Humanities, each topic is pincipe can be learned separately.
Not in all disciplines. Here the problem is not so much in the Sciences relevant, how they are implemented in practice. It so happened that the huge layers of humanitarian knowledge consists of information with zero informative value.
And in General, there is no such thing as a humanitarian mindset. There is only a technical mindset. Either you are able to understand all the math or not. And gumanitarny mindset all have.
Technical mindset is also not the case. Matan, you can teach anyone. Do not confuse the unwillingness to learn with the inability to learn. Science is not magic and don't esoteric, selected there does not exist a chain of logical implications to knock his head off can anyone who is smarter than down.
It so happened that the huge layers of humanitarian knowledge consists of information with zero informative value.-explain pliz..what is zero cognitive value...you always grasp the main point ahsh,I also think odd is similar,but can not articulate exactly useless knowledge?
When you say that in technology there is nothing more difficult the tensile strength and nitriding, it is necessary to go into details.---well, don't.I just gave examples of what might occur.In principle, information to favorites in the technical literature not so much.
One time I was tutoring, so believe me - some even a school course of mathematics does not understand what they no explain.---and who said that Humanities= a fool.It may have been incapable students.Maybe you explained through the backside.
the Humanities in two years can deal with it---well that's a lie.In the same economy I think Mat is not less than the General rate among techies.Maybe calculus is not so much used but all ie.http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9D%D1%8D%D1%88,_%D0%94%D0%B6%D0%BE%D0%BD_%D0%A4%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B1%D1%81
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Useless knowledge (like thousands of classifications of koi kalachivka into the heads of young scientists), as well as banal truth masquerading as some kind of important milestone on the path of scientific progress: theory of banals forces, for example. The economy is also a lot of nonsense there, some even were awarded the Nobel prize (despite the fact that in economic journals such theories were severely criticised, sometimes). The specific wording can not remember right now, though, because it does not set itself the goal to examine the failures of the modern scientific community.
Understood.
What I am, now comes the decline of the Humanities..well, history there any,politology etc..we have,in Ukraine it is considered that a detailed study neprikladan things bachelor the technician,the medic sort is not necessary,you only narrow specialization,which in my opinion is basically true,well, copied the Bologna system,the Western model,but interestingly,protected, candidate of Sciences receives the degree of doctor of philosophy,everything else sort of just attached,ie the medic,the engineer is still the doctor of philosophy.
Well, just in this tradition the concept of doctor of philosophy is invested is not what it seems at first glance based on the meaning of the two words of this phrase. This is normal.
I think so too,pay tribute to tradition..true that scholasticism,since it all began.
As a whole to the Bologna system treat? In my experience, the last bad established at least in the Humanities. If earlier it was difficult to make people anything to learn, it is now impossible and even punitive has no motive: just can score on the counter to fill - reporting to the examiner can not much steam. In practice, results in the accumulation of papers and abstracts, and also wiping his pants in class.
We are already 4 years old in it...you formulated correctly,all it is,and papers more...
the modules,credits,and still the old fashioned way-exam fee,test,course.
Of the benefits-greater freedom to the student,well on paper and law in reality is the lack of motivation,but it is not the fault of the student. Well, the exchange(albeit one-sided), many students hit the road to Europe-somewhere 30% of the course(mainly Denmark,the British and Ireland)..this is also a plus,not only financial but also in the manner of self-discipline and life experience.
Forgot-Bologna system,awesome,but subject to serious scientific support departments,a competitive labor market and integrity,competence of the teacher themselves.
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Technical mindset is also not the case. Matan, you can teach anyone. Do not confuse the unwillingness to learn with the inability to learn. Science is not magic and don't esoteric, selected there does not exist a chain of logical implications to knock his head off can anyone who is smarter than down.
Here I am with you, perhaps, will not agree. 1)that I would share conditional technical and humanitarian warehouses of thinking, not spending the comparative characteristics of the level of education or intelligence(no IQ:)). More on that below. Not counting those people that learn not on their specialty, and for the diploma, even though do not learn, there is an individual propensity to those or other categories of science. It is a sign of congenital or acquired I do not know. I'm interested technical science, they coherent with my the way of thinking, there are people, whom, on the contrary, are drawn to the humanitarian(social) disciplines. Me boring humanitarian science, learning at the level of the fan, without going into details, because anyways, there are better things to do. The same opinion is heard from opponents. 2)Teach, on-level diploma and can be consolidated. Even a diligent nerd geek if he is a psycho can finish perfectly well, although is unlikely he'll devote your life to studying and deepening in this predmed, for nafig.
PS: because of the transition to a market economy the last time pootkryvali a lot of comments.(XS as received accreditation) sharag trendy now the specialties of the inetger, bra, etc., who visit for the money of the crowd disinterested in the subject распиз1дяев. in fact, buying a diploma. Hence, the image of a humanitarian--knows nothing of the idiot with the tower.
Rattle, you don't consider that a penchant for science is formed through socialization.
As well, take into account:
It is a sign of congenital or acquired I do not know.
While(my IMHO) partly, most gum. Sciences socialable, and this needs things. congenital predisposition. As well as those pursuing the rigor of thinking (crooked, but XS. as briefly Express)
Which allows me to assert those things and gum thinking.