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VenomTRat 20.05.20 10:22 am

The Internet, or modern impunity

There is such a possibility that the registration on different websites and social networks will make on the passport. On the one hand, the anonymity disappears, and the other will disappear biodegradable waste, or, in an extreme case, it can be easily found and punished. Whether estrellada students and biodegradable waste such a sacrifice?
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SS44 20.05.20

Then all will be law-abiding and boring. It will be the death of the free Internet that we , though and with reservations , but have now...

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VenomTRat 20.05.20

SS44
Have all bugged, just then you'll know to whom to talk, where he lives. People will have to follow the words

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A.Soldier of Light 20.05.20

VenomTRat wrote:
typical biodegradable waste
Looks like some have complained about inadequate admin on the server cs ))

VenomTRat wrote:
On the one hand, the anonymity disappears, and the other will disappear biodegradable waste
All true, but confidently declare: be lost and a considerable part of the ordinary normal users.
Sometimes you don't even need a passport to do enough to change the moderation policy, and will be though more order, but more boring than before. Example nose 8) the Site on which we now sit and write here )

Another example. When to write comments to the news you can no longer anonymously, but only registered.users (for passport data). I saw, I know. The result: the number of comments diminished 100500%. Boring. Previously I went there for comments, a hundred or more many articles, and now barely a couple of comments typed, desert live ) Wasteland. Why is it good? Me - nothing, lost interest to go there. Think about it...

In my opinion, just moderation and control should be at a high level, to punish biodegradable waste, but to let go without passport data.

The Internet, or modern impunity
Depends on the site. Where there is a clear moderation, there is no unpunished ) Anonymity is not a problem, just ban unnecessary, that's all. Though of course it would be useful to punish the villain in real life, but even with the passport data such unlikely.

PS
In subject, there also gave the answer: Gamers in China are obliged to register on the passport 1 may

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RikoChiko 20.05.20

VenomTRat wrote:
There is such a possibility that the registration on different websites and social networks will make on the passport.
Ethiopians our riot police how to arrest be?

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VenomTRat 20.05.20

A. Soldier of Light
I partially agree with you. If I now go to the site, and I will ask the passport details, I'll leave and go on. But if the alternative is, like it or not, and eventually all return. At least the majority.
I doubt that now in China less people will play. Only if students otseit.
And about fun, from years of experience I would say, the most fun discussions I had with the appropriate people with a different point of view, not from such individuals.

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VenomTRat 20.05.20

Recochica
Just don't let the website

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RikoChiko 20.05.20

VenomTRat
Come on more guards with dogs put to Wikipedia go. Thinking the 20th century. Still say that the Internet is run by the CIA.

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VenomTRat 20.05.20

Recochica
If you think that you are untraceable in the network, you are greatly mistaken, of course if you specifically do not clean your tracks, go through remote servers, etc

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Gauguin 20.05.20

Not a bad idea, actually. But the mob won't like it, because pseudosabina taken away.

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VenomTRat 20.05.20

Gauguin
Like and agree, but looking at the AV...

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requiemmm 20.05.20

Anonymity is not not been. There was a request to the provider, the provider will pass the customer base, as glass:) Another issue is that until you Shine a picture right let you raise a term out of the blue, nobody wants you. And you won't need a star on the shoulder straps you do not give, so you're not even human, and so, the dust under the wheel of the system.
What up to find and punish the...there is a certain probability that the other end sits not student 12. There may sit by anyone, including the guy with the help of madhouse and daddy's shotgun in a tub with cabbage), about one-fifth are in trouble with the head, life is. So well, nothing will change, just to humiliate you will not Вася228Рго, and Vasili Andreevich Samberg, with the cat on the avatar.

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Wing42 20.05.20

VenomTRat wrote:
...easy to find and to punish
So imagine how not the best and not the most intelligent category of the population migrates into their trap, (or do not let Bozhe public transport that modern Punisher is not a prestige) from city to city in search of the offenders. Well, not if this is what is needed in the modern Russia: flock punishing chotko brutsaert boys with bleeding ears from bass crackle of the cheap speakers? In my opinion it is the future we deserve.
The idea of registration on the passport is wonderful, however, in accordance with the Russian reality, the idea will probably be implemented rectally and with so many holes and flaws that could be introduced invented passport data and sit themselves on the Internet safely.

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Dragon Land 20.05.20

so I already entered all your passport details, when connected the Internet provider?! but if it's about the fact that in a multiplayer game with a rating of 18+ (and now all games rated 18+ if there is even a hint of blood, violence, obscenities and violent scenes) will not be players under the age of 18, so it's just fine))

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Ivan Dro 20.05.20

On the PG we need to introduce this innovation, but then the number of users will be reduced from 14 because the passport is issued. Although that prevents young wonder take the passport mom and dad, or grandma and zaregalsya everything on them, and during a conversation with the man, he will say that he soroket, or seventy years, and even will be able to confirm the binding of the passport, therefore, as he passed the authenticity.

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Redeagle 20.05.20

Just wonderful! Everyone is worried about some kind of freedom, anonymity, but no one is worried that the passport data will be transmitted at known as secure channels and stored in such a store. And, I am sure 100% that in case of theft of your passport details and use them in any fraudulent schemes, remain unpunished for social networking and other websites that need this data to enter. And then, you will prove that you are camel. I am sure that in the user agreement, these sites will count, says that the portal is not responsible for data loss and the user consents to have their transfer. Well, or something like that.
As for the so-called freedom, something... truly free can only be the fall.

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A.Soldier of Light 20.05.20

VenomTRat wrote:
If I now go to the site, and I will ask the passport details, I'll leave and go on.
I, too, infa 100% ) Registration no problem. But Rega with real data - no, thank you. I used to have and I see no reason to change it. The question of sharing the freedom/ anonymity for security is very slippery... with respect to Internet even more slippery.

Dragon Land wrote:
so I already entered all your passport details, when connected the Internet provider?!
Right, what else do they want? 8) If the intelligence services really need, they'll find one. And the process of weeding out the chaff from the website is the responsibility of admins and modders a specific site. All this is now without any passport data.

Ivan Dro wrote:
On the PG we need to introduce this innovation, but then the number of users will decrease
It was already reduced in 2014 ) Not another ))
And how do you imagine, for example, for citizens of other countries that come here? Data authentication occurs, tell me...

The communication without identification of a real person (what age, wealth, place of residence, skin color, etc.) has its advantages. You communicate with the person without having some preliminary, subjective assessment of its appearance, and so on. That is the assessment of his thoughts is pre-processed in your mind through the assessment of appearance and comparison to age and so on. More objectively, it turns out. Estimated only what you need: the words themselves. The rest is superfluous.

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Shine 20.05.20

VenomTRat wrote:
biodegradable waste
Who are the judges?

In fact, I slightly understand, why it is necessary. For normal users is another bag of headaches, and for the government to drain a huge budget means nothing.
Okay, to hell with them with ordinary people. Although for some reason, I'm the dude on the street who asked me for directions to the library shall not provide access to the full amount of their personal data, and a regular user of the Internet, trying to prove to me what I the bottom and biodegradable waste - Yes, one more question. I can already imagine the various persecutions in the direction of "undesirable" segments of the population, like the LGBT community, American litter" and all the other living beyond Orthodox concepts. Choi won for example if you don't like.
And for those in power is relevant all the same questions of law Spring - like and on what. Do not know how anyone, but I personally, if I was at the state level will be forced to submit their passport details when registering in social networks, and for the safety of these data, I ask not from Durov. Just in case let me remind you that now is the proper level of security can't provide even the largest Russian banks. And what it can do PG, for example, I highly doubt it.
And okay if it's at least something on some level to decide. If someone needs to calculate for the stars, I have no doubt that it will be able to do without such a full dianon. And so, even when working the whole system just like on paper, the meaning of it, high to force the kids to watch programs the patriot in the First, instead of Mr. max.

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VenomTRat 20.05.20

Self-Murderer
The point was slightly different. People, knowing that they are not incognito, would behave more civilized. On the street we all weighed his words, and the Internet does not. Complete freedom.Yes, there's a lot of storage issues, security, etc., here and to be a lot of work, I agree. It's not just Pick up and oblige.

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maxxim1891 20.05.20

VenomTRat wrote:
Take and oblige
This is the principle of the Russian legislation. So don't flatter yourself.

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Shine 20.05.20

VenomTRat
At the Federal level, the essence of this law in anything, but obviously not in the promotion of cultural communication in the mass of the population of the Internet. And generally the question strange. If you don't weigh their words when anonymous communication and are generally famous makaluma, it does not mean that you suddenly domesticated authorization under the real name. This means that you need to grow in the intellectual and the cultural plan. Well or to disappoint, if the check on the passport really bring. Then you can safely all the network crap, because you're not going to run into stupid mountain of muscle, even if it is objectively wrong, isn't it?
In any case, the Internet is a platform where I can look and do things, not all of which I would like to put on display his inner circle. Well, not everyone wishes their families knew what they signed and what kind of porn I prefer, here in fact.