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Immense 08.06.20 09:36 pm

The key item. (Diablo 2)

I propose a vote of players on the change key of an item. It may be held in several stages.
1. The first step is to decide whether the change key of an item.
2. On the second to consider possible alternatives to the current item.
3. Reasonable of the proposed options to choose the one(or more, if none of the options would not have an appreciable margin) and to offer his administration.

Please do not offtopic and not to make srachnik.
Please unsubscribe on the first two items. Preferably simple, for example,
1. Yes;
2. Named unik Armory.
and a brief explanation if you need it(key word brief).
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Obsessed 08.06.20

will have to plow, to work to make something good to
__Slayer__, here all not so. wigs, in fact, no one cleans. confusion in the form of a drop mules - akin to print pictures of cancer on cigarette packages. drag is not plow and the waste time her single life.

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QLinkee 08.06.20

So, what do we have here... the Topic is about the changes on the server? Can you just chest cahow issue? Leave it like that.

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Obsessed 08.06.20

QLinkee, the main fluder here! <;DD

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__Slayer__ 08.06.20

Obsessed
well, Yes, of course. I'll take a loot mule and the Trial dragged EVEN MORE and then he lost interest in the game
FERC does not understand that the interest of the people, not rarely lost in the process of pulling most of these cahow.

everything is not quite so. wigs, in fact, no one cleans.
Clean not clean, but each time repeats the same thing)

and waste his only life.
So it essentially is, pleasure from the process of pulling no no) I'm used to it and now treat this process is neutral. Trained required - scored.

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Obsessed 08.06.20

__Slayer__ in the first place, he does not understand that the people need to communicate. or rather, do not know how to do it. started press Secretary keeps him on a strict leash. well meaning? )
the approach is purely Soviet, in short.

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firkax 08.06.20

__Slayer__
maybe you are a Troll? I don't know how else to explain this: first you claim that your proposal is not due to the desire to facilitate the obtaining of the values, and then in the same post, talking about how nice it would be if it were easier to obtain

One Sakai and Viper hammer run is also not so hot. Or is it still so hot?
about gear is debatable (except for the Viper, there are other options), but the fact that Enigma for interesting games is not required - that's for sure
moreover, it is almost certain that the development of PVM balance (ie the stats of the mobs, characters and ordinary clothes to interesting games) runeword in hirugami in General no account was taken, and added they were already on top of the existing interesting games

This is not misinformation, but a reality.
No, it was dezinformatsia. Me a year after the start of the game also seemed that a lot of people (those with whom I had become acquainted, being a noob) poukhodila etc. But I realized that this is a natural process and don't need it nobody/nothing to blame - someone leaves, someone comes, so everywhere and always.

It became more difficult to get the runes needed to buy this armor
Changes in the nominal value of a currency (that is, numbers written on pieces of paper) on the economy is not affected. About runeword Yes - it became more difficult, but in my opinion still much easier than it would be necessary, so I nedertal.

On free tournament 10 bodies can not dial.
Again, 4 years ago, it was exactly the same.

FERC does not understand that the interest of the people, not rarely lost in the process of pulling most of these cahow.
Another lie. I always tell everyone - wigs specks, do not drive them and then play rashochetsya

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__Slayer__ 08.06.20

firkax

You're the Troll. Consider an abstract example which will reflect the fate of a man who wants to knock aniki. I apologize in advance for punctuation.

Peter wants to go to Zimbabwe for bunches of bananas to some of them to eat and to sell part at home, in Plandi. To leave the country like as necessary (Petya heard somewhere) 1.2 million. Peter felt that one beam he will succeed in net income of 50 thousand rubles. That is, at best, break even, bring 24 of the beam. But due to force majeure ( bandits, raids rabid gorillas, adverse weather ) Peter realized that he needed to rely on 32 of the beam to go to 0. However, Peter wanted the profits for their labors, so he decided to drive 40 beams. The maximum out of Zimbabwe can take out 80 bundles at a time (do not allow the power of Glandei), but 80 for one person to take out very hard (sobsno so Peter decided only on 40). Every month Petya is free 25 thousand in the form of bonds, which expire every three years (and no matter when he received the particular bond at the beginning of the three-year period or at the end) all the bonds are worthless in a moment. Pete got tired of living in a Studio apartment, eating desicom, drink the juice and collect the crumbs from the table. He was determined to translate your plan into reality. But how can that be? Even over three years, the amount of bonds will reach the magic number. Peter decides to join unfamiliar, but experienced the Glory and Lesha. Together they decide to take 75 bundles of 25 each. Total turn that he will throw in 400000, and the profit will amount to 1000000 (5 beams at 250000 Peter wants to keep), if everything will be perfect! Peter is looking forward to a lunch of lobster and a dessert of banana ice cream, vkidyvaet and waiting to hear from Alex and Glory. And while response a message comes in, it sent the state a request for the desired amount at checkout. He also asked to explain what he needs to know about another country. The answer was not long in coming – the state should not disclose the details of amounts for travel, what about foreign countries explore it themselves. Podewils Peter...Oh well thinks the guys that used to fly, tell me why. Here comes the news from the guys supposedly sent the money, but now to leave the country stands at 600000 more expensive. Well done, still fine. Put another 200000 and they flew.

Epilogue: Peter is back with 6 bunches of bananas. Vkinul 600000, received 300000. He began to remember and reason, why so few:
When Peter and his companions arrived at the place, then settled on 3 phases. The best guys gave it to Peter, at least so he was told. Peter looks like all the bananas are perfectly ripe and juicy, what you need! Peter began to unpack, she sees that part of its territory obstructed, and seven beams hanging over the fence, and the fence with high voltage and climb it fail. Okay, Peter thinks, and another 18 remained go. Output no.
Collected Peter 2 beam, set the following, and then BAM and 5 beams went into the ground. Cho ***it, Peter thinks. Okay God is with them, nowhere to go, they will not get it.
Cut Peter 2 bundle and here come the children of Papuans, they say, well, let poletaem trees, everywhere wasteland, the sand, and we climb hunting. Peter thinks, come on, Cho, let him play, I'll rest a little while. Peter wakes up in an hour and 4 bushes are not present. LOL Peter thinks, well, okay, my fault, he burdock.
Peter cut the last 4, is approaching the last, and it rotted.
Total he Packed 8 bundles of 25 previously planned.
Glory and Alex, too, gleaning like (Pete said so).
The departure of the Glory and Alex invited Pete to give them the planes on one beam, so Peter took the plane in the economy class, which accommodates only 6 beams. On arrival they are obliged to give him. Peter agreed, thinking the guys bailed. But Alex and Glory landed at another airport and disappeared.

Later Peter found out that Slava and Lesha called Dima, wedged in to the station Petit, thereby taking away his blood 8 beams, 2 of which he gave to Alex and Thank for the information.
Also, he said that the Glory and Alex have not lost a single beam, and collected everything.
In addition, the guys knew about land that could fail, but kept silent about it. Furthermore, Peter recognized that this information suggested the state, which sent Pete to explore all on your own.
It also knew about the thieves of the Papuans, but again Pete did not say anything.

The indignant Peter went to demand justice. To punish the thieves-deceivers and to explain why the state is the one giving information, while others do not. But he was sent steamed in a bathhouse.

What can be learned from this story?
1) In Glandei you can trust only yourself.
2) From item 1 it follows that we need to do a cost of leaving the country, so that each individually could afford it, and to put such conditions that each would bring in only one beam. Let him riding bunches as he wants, paying the amount that you need. The amount let will determine the state that it does not simplify the method and the travel cost.
3) the Essence of the previous points – don't depend on certain people and the ability to do everything yourself, thereby increasing loyalty and the location of its citizens.
4) If the state (master or his deputies) are pushing the old Glory and Alex, let them conveys (convey) to others, to make it all equal.
5) the Government should listen to the opinion of the majority of its citizens, and not act selfishly.

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__Slayer__ 08.06.20

firkax
someone leaves, someone comes, so everywhere and always.
I mean the numbers say, it is able to influence the administration. And when it takes steps, causing more discontent among the players, of course people will blame the crowds.

Again, 4 years ago, it was exactly the same.
Me what to throw a reference from that time where the tournaments are quietly recruited for 20-30 people? The stream lasted a long time, not a measly 2-3 an hour now.
on my way is still far easier than it would be necessary, so I nedertal.
And then you say that the number of participants is the same as before?
Of course it can be done, but then even Ohm in prize money will be a challenge for local philanthropists, art patrons and philanthropists.

Another lie. I always tell everyone - wigs specks, do not drive them and then play rashochetsya
Wigs specks, but I don't want a year and the whole season to run hammer without Enigma, without updating the armor.
And Yes, wigs specks, exactly like drop runes on PG.

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Rivnyanyn 08.06.20

The government should listen to the opinion of the majority of its citizens, and not act selfishly.
The state itself graze when ripe bunches and cut yourself a good sum, and then pushes it, thus rebuking all evil to put up with it. In Glandei the government prevoshodit many the hypocrisy of OFC.

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minovalo 08.06.20

do not drive them and then play won't
The whole thing in one dose. ;)

And what about onehow.. they themselves feed the huckster, and then whining that the huckster - not you. xD

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Immense 08.06.20

Me about the rollback of state-Woo mowing:(

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__Slayer__ 08.06.20

I don't think the government makes the Glory and Lesha to unfasten him.
Why? He has just in case your own printing press, and if need be it will put him in the back :)

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Stealth501 08.06.20

Here comes a message from the guys who supposedly sent the money, but now to leave the country stands at 600000 more expensive.
as far as I remember (and more than 10 years have passed, I can be wrong) the number of required key item above for every subsequent world event.
And judging by the story, the situation as a whole - as we do for Ukraine - it's all rotten through and through(

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Stealth501 08.06.20

And you can about thieves of Papuans more info?) And PM, if that)
speculated..

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__Slayer__ 08.06.20

Stealth501
Here, recently called. Sort of made the amount, which is rumored to be necessary to call uber, but it has not appeared. I had to throw. At the end put another third of the amount that had already been made. If not more...

And judging by the story, the situation as a whole - as we have in Ukraine
In Russia too, believe me)

And you can about thieves of Papuans more info?)
Yes, there is nothing secretive, no) Just happens to be people in the trust fall)
I'm still a newcomer spoke with the fella that got lucky enough to catch Hubert in his open room. He began his carasmatic and here comes Kent, asked him, what are you doing? The, well, uber beat. That pepper asked says can with you, I never beat, I just want to try. Well, OK, let me there there is something (can't remember where it was). The Kent out of the game. A minute later comes the AMC and 2 Pala, come to clean, when the uber is still a bit of HP thrown friend the host, quench it, then finish off the uber, take any and write - sps gl :D
Something like this, long ago told all the little things I do not remember.
At that point I wasn't trying to blame the administration, just focus on the fact that PG even for a long period of trust can end badly.

Immense
Don't know, maybe something extra written. Reunanen not rubbed :)

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Rivnyanyn 08.06.20

Reunanen not rubbed
And at once. But prostitutes of Moscow was advertised to the dead of the night:)

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Stealth501 08.06.20

Remember. Regarding the sudden increase in the number of required keyitems. caused we clone once,and was available and insider info on the required number of key item,since they themselves were the admins )so, with the sale of your item, the counter value of the required count for the call is as well increasing quickly( i.e. has a value of speed of sale key item. further study on the rate of growth schetchika none of us spent, since perfect cheekbones (they were a key itema, because on the server played 3 cripples) was quickly finished off, the clone summoned, needs good received.. and the Papuans no harm. But the fact that this dependence is a fact.

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firkax 08.06.20

__Slayer__
there you go again
in your message is so much nonsense that I'm too lazy to answer everything
the only notice I have the impression that you think that server administration is a kind of analogue of the state - if you really think so, then it's probably the root of your delusions
everything you brought out of this confusion, you throw them away, look left, and if there is something left, maybe you can continue the conversation
the characteristics of the state that should be forgotten:
1) has common values with the population (such as money)
2) somehow limited in the number of these values (not the instant print yourself an arbitrary amount of anything, no one asking)
3) declares the care about the welfare of the population

I repeat - in D2 there is no state, and all that you will derive from misconceptions about this can immediately throw in the trash
Rivnyanyn'have the same

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__Slayer__ 08.06.20

firkax
In your soobshenia stupid no less.
A lecture to write on the signs state it's not necessary, I only showed the abstract example of what awaits the one who wants to call an uber, and at the same time made a couple of conclusions.
I want to convey to you one thing - you need to change the system of obtaining anyhow, while not simplifying the gameplay. Here's what will change:
1) Any will be possible to knock out only one in a closed room, by making a certain value.
2) This amount can be calculated on the basis of the that is attributable to one of any at the moment, or else increase it a couple of times to the administration, this amount seemed enormous to a small (that for sure it would be nice to do, because they love to make everything difficult). You need to take the cost of the call Hubert at the moment and divide by the average number of extracted anyhow.
3) This is not a simplification of the gameplay (special for you). This is equivalent to the search for alternative solutions.

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__Slayer__ 08.06.20

Alternatively, even better, leave it as is, but make it possible to knock 1 anih himself in a closed room. But to make this method less advantageous than just buying any those who attempt it the usual method.
I would like the administration treated more leniently for similar initiatives.