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gennaz 18.10.19 01:33 pm

Again 30 fps (Red Dead Redemption 2)

How can you play such a serious game with 30 fps and even drawdowns happen.
It's a shame for Rockstar,at the end of 2018 are unable to optimize the game under 60 fps! Console gamers are real masochists!
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[Denis Aleksandrovich] 18.10.19

meagarry
meagarry wrote:
what a show off? I think you see what you want to see. asked me what can console, I said, with illustrative examples, so to speak)))
What did you say? Where shadows from multiple sources simultaneously? Where is the reflection that you don't know? Where the tracks in the mud,which you don't know?
Game of 2007:

Geralt casts a few shadows.
Game of 2012:

Connor leaves a trail in the dirt.For example, Battle 4 has no shadow in first person,and Fallout 3/4, third-person the shadow is,first it disappears.
When at E3 brought the first the Witcher 3,it travon shadow cast.In the release version of shadows of travona with travona cut under the console

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Nervios 18.10.19

let's insert five cents
But the point is that on the controller, turning the camera much slower . and the mouse can be well, very quick to spin .. that's all

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ArtKan 18.10.19

I read the comments and figeyu how people snickering about the smoothness of the picture on the consoles. Stable 30 fps is not enough for them, PPC. You even video of this game look? Where's the brake you see? Everything is smooth and responsive is played on consoles with a gamepad, if 30 fps without a problem, because full synchronization is achieved with the frequency of the TV screen. Yes, and drawdown up to 25 fps do not strain, because playing on the controller, with a smoother rotation of the camera than the mouse, and at a sufficient distance from the TV. But on a PC I rarely what games could achieve consistently smooth Frame Time at 30 fps salacca prog RivaTuner Statistics Server. So the smoothness is worse than on consoles, and the responsiveness of cotton, especially in the management of the mouse. PC highly of game engine depends on how salacca 30 fps affect the smoothness and responsiveness of the game. And for consoles games originally optimize at 30 fps, slightly blurring the image when the camera moves, so smooth better than on a PC with the same fps. And do not compare 30 and 60 fps in the forehead, as with a sharp switching of the frame rate, the brain does not have time to adapt, therefore, in such moments, 30 fps feels like the brakes. The main thing here is stability, not sudden frame rate.

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MagicHero 18.10.19

gennaz
gennaz wrote:
As you can see easily,and your lousy console is not that 60 fps is not seen,but the level of graphics which I have on my rx 564 oc. Go enjoy 20 fps,with detail very low.)))
I already wrote when that but you to the old, diminish Sonya while you have none is the same as in Curling the 4th and proshko much more powerful than yours. And if you somewhere get 60 fps only due to the reduction settings. Expose the column as the plates 4 and get the same fps with the plane because on consoles the fps sometimes local 30, although it can be higher but if no a stable 60 then put the lock 30.

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gennaz 18.10.19

MagicHero
I also wrote that the apu on the ps4 is 2 times weaker than the apu 2200g and the graphics settings all the games are on the value is very low,proof given, how can one and the same.

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mavlan 18.10.19

Jesus, what holivar bred 30фпс 60 fps on the monitor 30фпс in games is very noticeable, and therefore prejudiced against the console, just talking, fu as, 30фпс. And recently I bought the TV in 4K. And the clip I have a 970, they are already old, put a couple of igrulya set up in full HD, 60 fps and like norms. But Chet decided to put 4K, at least to see what it is, and with a gamepad in 3 meters from the TV set, I totally didn't notice the difference. And now I have a feeling that everyone who says that consoles 30фпс shit, or they really never played on consoles or did it on the monitors to stop him....
People with disputes about Grifoni also not really right to compare the graphics on the console for 20K and PC for 50-80k is not quite correct.
I PC every year more and more too lazy to toil with the settings of updates with wood and I am more and more thinking about the PS4, out in stores just drove for 24K with horizon and анчартедом4 in the kit....

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MagicHero 18.10.19

gennaz
I do not understand what kind of nonsense led but regular Curling is vidyuhi level 7870 which is roughly equal to your vidyuhi (a bit weaker) So if you talk shit about Curling and smear it along the way, my graphics card and all your tests show that they are capable if Curling can be in the game to change the settings.

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[Denis Aleksandrovich] 18.10.19

-Zion-
Zion wrote:
Tin, you're comparing a stool with pastena with horizon.
So on pastene were implemented footprints in the snow,and only notice them now,with the release of RDR2.On pastene were implemented shadows from multiple sources at once,and in RDR2 and the Horizon that there.In the Horizon is the reflection in the water that is added to the PC mod.On pastene was the smoke from the fire,and he is not in all games. The most realistic smoke I've seen in all my playing time was in Metro 2033.I saw him without Pusica on the XFX 4890.In 2009, they watched in amazement as streams of water from the rain in DX10 flow through the sewer hatch,and now see how the rain pours behind the Persians during their conversations.In 2008 in DX9 at pastene with my wounded Persian dripping blood,and if stepped on it will remain footprint

-Zion - wrote:
It is certainly much more than the PS4 1.84, wait рдр2 of course in 60fps pull. From Juan's probably a little faint seeing his 6 teraflops.
About Juan do not know,but according to this video Proshka not cope:

And the reasons I do not understand.

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-Zion- 18.10.19

[Denis]
Technology for technology's sake. Of course this in horizon no, consoles are on a budget for this. But the picture there is much steeper than what it was earlier, it looks nice, really beautiful can be enjoyed. I'm the same I remember playing Lost Planet, I really liked the implementation of snow and animation HS, after this it never was very long. What's the point of all these marks, shadows from multiple sources as you have in the Witcher on the screen when the rest of the picture the more you RUB, for me at all times вуду2 smelled from the screen.
The developers have done a picture with the mind, and not stupidly stuffed features from which a bad picture but the implementation of some things is good. It's like RTX shadows NVIDIA, all the power went to some shade, who cares if the rest unchanged. For me grafodrocher, horizon is the most beautiful game you can do without the traces, shadows and other things, when the rest is at the highest level, and this hardware 2011. It is not in the technology. This is a test 3дмарк, it is stuffed with complicated things, but the picture itself is never beautiful, she is a good and notably bad.
[Denis] wrote:
About Juan do not know,but according to this video Proshka not cope:
Video card Proshka more powerful than the PS4 exactly 2 times, permission to proshko exactly 2 times higher than normal. Why don't you understand reason? Yes, there is still a 500MHz faster processor and memory faster by 24%, and the game goes a little better than the regular PS4.
Many people forget that about the x was created at a higher resolution, such as 4K, not the intermediate generation for high performance.

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[Denis Aleksandrovich] 18.10.19

-Zion-
I'm talking to the fact that everything in modern console games,under the force of pulling PC-based Riesen and RX560.Only if Nvidia will not pull the blanket.But that is another topic.

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-Zion- 18.10.19

[Denis]
So no one is arguing that the guy with the 560 will be able to play if it will, the question is how, he wants ultra and 60 fps, and he's got a bucket. Even in his video shows that he looked forward to the disabling of the main grooving vidyuhi features like volumetric lighting and shadows, rays, pro hi tech does the same thing when he wants to test the CPU, what would the impact vidyuhi to minimize. This is the basis of graphics on the PC, the power of the graphics cards in these settings, and it disables the most important and hopes for your Reisen.

And the console is a compromise on the compromise, especially in 2018 under the sunset generation. I play DDR on xbox 2 X, there is native 4K, I'm not arguing everything clearly, but sometimes seen myltse on the backs, in the distance houses are not as clear, complex, or render the resolution below 4K, thanks to the above console still pull Igors and not bad(xbox X).
But the man with RX560 will get a clean render without any native above and his system will shrink, because the developers will not make this game under a bucket, he will have to cope.

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[Denis Aleksandrovich] 18.10.19

-Zion-
-Zion - wrote:
. This is the basis of graphics on the PC, the power of the graphics cards in these settings, and it disables the most important and hopes for your rayzen
So not only depends from the video card,but monitor/TV that displays an image.Maybe you play on the TV,and any change in the settings you catches the eye,and he may be on Monica 22-24, and disabling volumetric lighting, a large not see the difference.I'm Assasins creed 3 on the big TV going through 42 FHD and just ofigevayu,how much it is beautiful.On Monica 20 1680x1050 didn't see it.I feel like a different game to play.Although,the angular surface at some points slightly spoil the impression.
Reisen,by the way,did well for its price.In the same AC3 is in new York to 86% have progresista and playable FPS with this.While only They own the Assassins 100% CPU in a single load.


-Zion - wrote:
I play DDR on xbox 2 X, there is native 4K, I'm not arguing everything clearly, but sometimes seen myltse on the backs, in the distance houses are not as clear, complex, or render the resolution below 4K, thanks to the above console still pull Igors and not bad(xbox X).
I Forza 7 demo launched.It's default dynamic settings.With them always in FHD 60FPS on 7950.
There is such a thing as blurry backdrops,you know.It is used as an effect.Perhaps to conserve resources,or to focus your attention on a particular object.Real photo backdrops not zamylivaetsya.

-Zion - wrote:
But the man with RX560 will get a clean render without any native above and his system will shrink, because the developers will not make this game under a bucket, he will have to cope.
Who knows for what hardware they will be cut?) I won the Witcher 3 pass started on the 570GTX).On 7950 him high twisted,except for the Nvidia settings and the number of Persians on the secondary set,as it is on the schedule is not affected.Can play most modern games on high (partially lowered his to medium) settings.This despite the fact that it is a little weaker than the RX560.Only Origins from Yubikov strange flaw in the picture,as if the game frieze.Picture tear.And so,in Wolfenstein II play without a problem in the Evil Within 2.Shadow Of Tomb Rider is not launched yet, like the torrent does not start.Far Cry 5 in FHD on high graphics settings.
Wow:
Immediately after the release of Red Dead Redemption 2 Western came under the scrutiny of not only the press and gamers, but dataminers — and they have a story to tell. The main and, it seems, the only serious drawback of the novelties found no version for computers, but this is probably not so simple. Help came from not waiting for: in your application code companion found hints at a bright PC future.
But this is interesting:
https://4pda.ru/2018/10/29/354237/

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-Zion- 18.10.19

[Denis]
All he sees, he is here about the ultra and 60 fps pushes, everything he sees on his monitor. TV just makes everything more beautiful, but what he does can be seen on the monitor. His goal is 60 fps, but without disabling that feature to fail, that is its purpose and it is on the surface.
I myself play on the TV and monitor picture, he is very different on the monitor I would play did not, is generally not.
I do not drive on it rayzen, it will fit in principle. Although I would in his place would be scraped on 1600.
Forza 7 by itself is not demanding it and the original Juan in 60fps works. You run horizon, there is 60 fps will not be as easy.
[Denis] wrote:
Can play most modern games on high (partially lowered his to medium) settings
Well, you're not fuckin ' with me here as the topic that how sorry you are suffering consolers of 30фпс, and how do you expect RDR 2 on PC that would be on HD7950 on ultra at 60fps DIN that is not possible, your Radik powerful graphics card of the author. And author of the drives on the console sitting on the same computer as the console. Builds a grafodrocher and disabling graphiste settings on your computer. I finally don't understand it.
[Denis] wrote:
Who knows for what hardware they will be cut?)
Well, certainly not under the law and, 560 as it is, the top end of low end.

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[Denis Aleksandrovich] 18.10.19

-Zion-
-Zion - wrote:
You run horizon, there is 60 fps will not be as easy.
Happy to run it if ported.Wang high (slightly lowered his sometimes middle) settings.FPS in the area 37-47 fps in FHD.Now about the way the ports are kept on the HD 7950.

-Zion - wrote:
Well, you're not fuckin ' with me here as the topic
I used vyezhivatsya worse than the author.Hatil console.Then one hand took the PS3,played TLOU and realized that all the same pleasure of passing the desired game above all else.No matter what it platform.The only thing I am swearing,it's from the inconvenience of aiming with a gamepad.Then I first took the controller.
At this stage appropriately refer to the purchase under the console exclusives.That is to say,to the console,as pleasant addition,but not as the core platform.But in the first place PC

-Zion - wrote:
. And author of the drives on the console sitting on the same computer as the console.
HD 7950 is slightly poslabzhe RX560.I will say,as a lover of the Witcher 3:I didn't have to wait for the 1.07 patch.I have it on 1.06 was held without lags in the dialogues.Moreover,I have passed it on AM2+ (Phenom ll x4 940BE 3.3 GHz,8Gb RAM 880Мгц (5-5-5-15)),and that platform was enough to do without a long upload before the dialogues.Platform 2009.In the Grove,however,the PS4 copes without problems,and a Hairdryer farted

-Zion - wrote:
Well, certainly not under the law and, 560 as it is, the top end of low end.
If the new range will be delivered,RX560 will not be in the tests.It will test torrent version.

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Ho1yDiver 18.10.19

gennaz wrote:
Playground the largest gaming website and I'm sure the developers are watching the reaction of players and the more active will be our position,the more likely the game developers will the PC versions, only a minimum of 60 fps!
Lost ugolovno.
PG be the PG. Time goes by and scorotron do not change.

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Tanc2021 18.10.19

plus console only that console itself grasi and then not leaving the house in the games you can play for free ! attendants took 4K and bought the game on disc in a day or two a week it also sold well for 3500 or exchanged ! passed all the last three games so. all PC gamers posveschaetsya don't get shit redkosny this console is like a cha cut cheto.

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Tanc2021 18.10.19

mavlan
what kind of idiot plays with 3 meters of the TV PPC)) of course the games on the monitors around him. what the tin PPC

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gennaz 18.10.19

MagicHero
but in a normal Curling iron is vidyuhi level 7870
Once you have blended!
Spoiler

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DEDGAMER 18.10.19

30FPS! What do you want?Do make such a choice,don't complain,I personally bought the console just for the exclusives and everything is fine with me,because on the PC to play in 4K.

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MagicHero 18.10.19

[Denis]
[Denis] wrote:
About Juan do not know,but according to this video Proshka not cope:
4K to pull the game, it doesn't do that???

gennaz
And where I merged? nobody knows exactly what is none but maybe there 7870 with a low frequency because there is no cooling. In VIDOS the author stated characteristics, it is clear from the bold (he said it) between 7850 and 7870 but I think to do a new chip for AMD reason was not so that there may have been the 7870 chip with low frequencies because the 7850 even at full catato and that, given the enormous heat dissipation would have 1.84 teraflops.
SO WHERE I MERGED??? merged just you my friend, so can not continue to humiliate the consolers with the 4th Curling iron because you have almost the same vidyuhi.

PS In General looked RX 560-Yu she has 2.6 teraflops that is where 40% faster comes out. ie if Curling 30 fps then you have the same chart will be 42 fps and it's not 60 )))