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Banned Zharkovich User fo 27.11.21 11:10 pm

Growing generation

The younger generation knocks me out.
I waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa they do not understand them.
If we had values: canfets and gifts to loved ones, then they have values: MOBILE AND DISKS WITH GAMES !!!!!!!!
What I mean.
I just went to the hospital today and overheard a conversation between two 10-year-old boys.

- Now, if you found $ 100,000, what would you buy?
- I do not know. Probably mabilnik, and on the remaining computer and disks to it.


And here is my dialogue with a friend (I have asked nyavo).
- If you have found of 50 000 rubles you to create one (at the time, as I remember, it was the money balshie 95-96 years.)
- Nuuuuuuuuuuuuuu. I would probably buy a canfet and a cake. Well, what a gift for mom.

What I mean.
Heck.
Even to formulate nemagu.
In short, it seems to me that the values ​​are not the same.
In the first place, these are YOUR needs. Spit on loved ones. On freezing people and children in orphanages.


PS
After the conversation, they got the piles of the mabilniki from one Siemens CX75, from the friend some kind of sonyaerik navarochenny.

In general, if someone understands what I wanted to say, then plz correct me.
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pain pumping station 27.11.21

In the year 98, I dreamed if I could find money in the apartment to renovate and furnish it, because we lived in a hostel then.
As for people who are freezing, I don’t think of them either then or now. When it came to me, after a few years, it dawned on the teachers in the kindergarten for playing with bread so I just whinnied.
They told us that we are supposedly freaks playing with bread here, we roll all sorts of balls and the gypsies have nothing to eat!

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Jah rastafari 27.11.21

Everyone knows that today's youth are sick ****. For those who are now 13-14 years old and under, you experience all this for yourself. Education in you is ZERO. Even if it is, everything is suppressed by the desire to "get out" or "to be like all peers." Herd. ... even looking sick. Especially when 13-year-old girls get drunk in calla lilies because "that's kind of cool." Or even "feel like". BlÑšya, what normal person at 13 will have to get drunk in shit ??? but I know those. I loved those! And I'm ashamed!

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checkmate!

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_Cleopatra_ 27.11.21

Zharkovich! do not get rid of the triviality. This is called the degradation of society, the inculcation of harmful stereotypes and the inability to cognize the essence of the universe. People now have a subjective opinion, which is bad.

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MorthVarg 27.11.21

Well, don’t know ... At the age of 13 and I got drunk in shit ...
And I always had one dream - to take over the world. and all the money that I would find I invested in this business ...

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A.Soldier of Light 27.11.21

"They told us that we are supposedly freaks playing with bread here, we roll all sorts of balls and the gypsies have nothing to eat!"
- another example of the stupidity of adults ... stupidity - lack of wisdom

Aftar quite rightly noticed about the younger generation. Total control AS And its complete absence is equally true and gradually "help" a person to degrade ... Ideal control is not obvious control.

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Banned Zharkovich User fo 27.11.21

THAT IS EXACTLY THIS I WANTED TO SAY !!!
YOUNG MAN IMHO !!!
There is not a drop of upbringing in today's children.
I remember how we shared everything in the first grade.
And now?
And now even the introduced form designed to hide the differences in the wealth of the ancestors does not fulfill the mission.
The fact is that if Petya goes to school on foot, and Vasya drives his father's BMW, it will still be noticeable in the classroom.
Everyone will be glue to the one with the cooler mobile.
Now I'm looking at it.
First-graders walk with mobile phones for (!) 13,000 rubles (!)
And vyapyvayutsa in front of each other.
Like, look.
But you don’t.

Such kazlofs should be trained at the stage of conception.

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Aesthetic slut 27.11.21

yes, everything is so) recently I went to the school where I studied, congratulate the classroom and several more teachers on NG .. while I was waiting for her at the break in the classroom, I learned a lot of new swear words from the children of the 2nd grade. and among the smokers around the corner, where in my time guys from grade 8 and older hung out - only small ... parents, probably, like that.

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pain pumping station 27.11.21

And I have a dream to find a certain job in order to love it, and not go every day like to hard labor.

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Serious_100 27.11.21

Well, about swelling, it was only covert before, but about today's youth, I can only say that generations are changing, and most likely the next generation will become even worse ...

Ps I want to say a lot more, but I still can't formulate it, so I guess then I will write.

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Jah rastafari 27.11.21

Such kazlofs should be trained at the stage of conception.

you don't need to wet anyone. We should be glad that you lived a normal childhood. Now tell the children how at their age you built huts or climbed trees, picking chestnuts. Can anyone understand you? Yes NO naturally. TV, computer ... that's what children need now. I am happy, honestly, that I lived in a not rich family. That I had Sega, which I would never trade for running around an unfinished house with a dukharik. It was a live Counter-Strike! Do any of today's children know what a dukharik is? Ha ... everything is sold by the Chinese. What we once made with our own hands is now acquired by parents for grandmothers! This is how childhood has come ... I even want to be glad that I have already grown up ...

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pain pumping station 27.11.21

We are also no good in the opinion of the previous generation. We listen to "such creepy music", watch some porn on the Internet, and so on. Naturally it is not necessary to wet, but what if we were soaked in childhood? I exchanged my shoga for a computer, TV for the Internet. It may seem bad to someone, but this is progress.

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A.Soldier of Light 27.11.21

the next generation will be no worse, but better than the current one .. because there is nowhere worse;)

"First-graders walk with mobile phones for (!) 13,000 rubles (!)
And vyapyvayutsa in front of each other."
- that's when one of the street thieves steals such a mobile phone,

show-off and end up Bragging about an expensive thing - causing others to feel envy and injustice, which in turn generates powerful negativity and somehow affects the life of the one who owns an expensive item. You cannot force people to create negative energy in relation to themselves - you will see, it will end badly ...

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Wolfhein 27.11.21

Please do not generalize. I turned 15 no later than two months ago - but call myself an ill-mannered idiot, the highest value for whom in life is a mobile phone and I can't booze. Because I don’t have the first one at all (I don’t see the need for a mobile at the moment, although finances allow it), and I consider it a waste of money and time to get drunk.
As for the fact that the main thing for us is a TV and a computer ... if only ... for most of our peers, the most interesting thing in life is getting drunk, fighting, swearing and letting someone down who can't say anything in response, why is it creepy to be proud of it. I think THIS is degradation.
Actually, for this reason, most of my friends (both in real life and those whom I met on the Internet) are 3 years or more older than me - I already have something to talk about with them, they will understand me and you can _normally_ talk to them about important - for me and for them - themes. Because I listen to the wrong music that my peers listen to, I read the wrong literature (or rather, not so - I DO read AT ALL, and I read a lot), unlike them, I am interested in completely different issues than they ... you can go on for a long time. I have to thank my parents for this, who raised me in this way. If it were not for them, I would probably be among those underdeveloped subjects for whom a bottle of fake vodka is more expensive than any friend ... Although, in addition to upbringing, there were two important events that thoroughly knocked the crap out of me and made me much more serious .. .but it already smacks of offtopic.
Eh ... before I started writing the post, I had no idea how painful it all was ...
I'll return to the topic of computers. You can play stupidly with toys and not think about anything. And you can (as I did) turn the computer into a source of part-time jobs + a good hobby. I work part-time by assembling computers, so I know a lot about hardware and do not shy away from digging into it with my hands and bringing it to my senses. Due to this, more than once I helped my friends - both my own and my parents - to do upgrades + I acquired a good reputation in my native school (in which, again, I resurrected the malfunctioning hardware) :-) I would not say that in this case the computer is empty and a waste of time.
Later, perhaps, I will continue my sayings ... Now you just need to collect thoughts, of which a great many have arisen.

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Jah rastafari 27.11.21

You know ... you shouldn't go to the extreme like "nerd" either. I'll take myself as an example. Who am I? - fuck you! Latest! Forever young, forever drunk, they say. And at the same time, I like to read a book in my free time from drunkenness and parties, or continue to write my own ... I like to play the guitar, to sit ... I am generally a creative person, inclined to the constant consumption of low-alcohol drinks. And so ... the remnants of perestroika ...

I am an example of a drunken alcoholic who knows how to work and loves culture =)

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Wolfhein 27.11.21

I don’t drink, I don’t smoke, but I don’t shy away from concerts (although there is metal only, but if any good band comes to us, it’s me who will gather people for the purpose of the hike), get-togethers with friends (although the circle of friends, of course, is narrower than most peers ... but I can rely on each of them and each of them is an interesting person in his own way, and not part of a faceless herd) and - in moderation - drunkenness :-) but if you drink, then only with friends and not to such a state in which you can no longer speak coherently ... and only if there is a reason. Just stupid booze to grunt - not for me.
If I'm a nerd ... I'd rather be that nerd than an ill-mannered drunk, for whom booze comes first, and the rest fades into the background.

PS Well, after all, do you think I belong to the "sick fuckers", or is there hope for the best?)

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T0Xa 27.11.21

On a subject, I can only say one thing - the herd instinct. unfortunately - it prevails, and there is no getting away from it, and no change, because the psychology of adolescents is in this vein, there are exceptions, not rarely, they are. We must blame the environment in which a person lived at the time of his maturation as a person, and the formation of a gray substance :) there are weak people whose willpower leaves much to be desired, weak. But it is not our right to blame and condemn them, we just talk about it here and disperse, but we cannot do anything.

I want to be banal, i.e. to express my respect to Dark_Stalker, I have been communicating with a person for about 2 years, even then - he showed himself much higher than all this dirt. The definition of a nerd does not apply to this person.

I want to give anrespect to the one who blurted out here - Soak in conception. I probably didn’t think it’s scary to read something like that.

In general, you are in your hands, everyone educates themselves from 13-14 years old.

IMHO.

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Daekalen 27.11.21

DarK StalkeR:
You know, I seem to be your exact copy, only I'm 17 ... I absolutely agree with everything you said earlier. Parents really play a leading role in the development of their "child", and the child constantly copies them ... But sometimes everything develops according to For example, my father often fermented (so three times a week) and at such moments turned into a goat ... And there was no reason to drink.
But looking at this and analyzing this situation, I never drink afterwards. I tried it, but the addiction did not appear.

My younger generation cannot be hammered into anything, but a little bit to correct their worldview is quite. By doing so, they themselves will reach everything ...

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Wolfhein 27.11.21

I don’t want to write long posts yet, so I’ll speak briefly about the high cost of things.
I see no reason to brag about the high cost of a thing if you have nothing to do with buying it. If you were able, say, to make the purchase come out cheaper than it could (again, I take an example from myself ... who decides to catch fumbling is your right, although the accusations will be unfounded - I just can't come up with a sufficiently suitable abstract example) - then you can take credit for this fact, but not for the fact of purchase. Roughly speaking, if a person is good at computers, or plays the guitar well, or has some other ability, then he has every right to say about it at the right moment. do not shout about it at every corner. And the best option is to first prove your knowledge and abilities, and then with full right to talk about them. And such people personally inspire respect in me. it is clear that this is not empty boast.
And if all that a person can do is come to a store (computer, household appliances, cellular communications, etc.) and, having said "the coolest thing for me", not being able to even independently choose what he needs, observe how the parents pay his order - it no longer inspires the slightest respect for him ...

PS turned out to be quite long and not entirely coherent, I will edit it later ... but I think the main idea is clear.

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UnrealMan 27.11.21

I don't quite agree that the current generation is dumber than the previous one. In any generation there were both "fools" and "smart". And among the current younger generation there are both. These are just stereotypes, but there is some truth in your reasoning. There are several reasons:

1) Excessively long spending of their time at the computer, and mainly at the games. To some extent, I am a person who has seen the end of the time when only the "elite" had computers and the present period, when almost everyone has them. So, comparing these two periods, I can conclude that nowadays teenagers do not do anything other than computer games and stupid surfing on websites. The computer replaces most of them with everything from books to friends. And this affects not only their mental development, but also their behavior in society. A person who sits most of his time on all kinds of forums and chats loses the ability to communicate normally in the real world, with "live" interlocutors.

2) Striving only for material values, spiritual values ​​are not important for today's adolescents, their own inner qualities are not important for them, etc. things. They read almost nothing. All they need now is money. But it is not the adolescents themselves who are to blame for this, but the people who are involved in their upbringing and the factors surrounding them, such as the state. And this is completely understandable, children see what kind of life is in their state, how many people live below the threshold of poverty, how difficult it is to get a job. They see that the intelligentsia (not all of them, of course) lives in poverty, while stupid skin-headed freaks, with 5 classes of education, drive cool cars and buy themselves villas on the seashore. And in the subconscious one gets the impression that money is a decisive factor in the life of every person and nothing else is needed besides money.

3) Parents devote less time to their children, because sometimes many of the parents do not have enough of the salary they receive at one job and they are forced to earn money elsewhere. Hence the lack of time to raise their children. And parental upbringing is a guarantee of personality formation, it is the parents who instill in their children many qualities that, in consequence, allow their children to become real people. In this I completely agree with Stalker.

4) Debauchery, cruelty, violence shown in the media. This makes the younger generation more impudent and licentious, sometimes even uncontrollable.

These are, in fact, the main reasons why the present growing generation is "worse".

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Wolfhein 27.11.21

I will comment on the points :-)
1) I spend a considerable part of my time at the computer ... I prefer to combine the computer and the book - I read it, stopped, put it off, played / read the forums / talked to the people in ICQ, took the book back ... I don’t forget to my friends, but I don’t get to get together too often. they are mostly busy people ... I go on a visit, I invite them to my place, we gather and go somewhere together ... but still, this is far from every day. And I don't like aimless wandering around the city, although it also happens.
Communication on the forum and in ICQ, administration of CS servers, the role of clan leader and deputy. clan leader later ... Personally, all this, on the contrary, allowed me to communicate and write much more freely in real life - both in Russian and in English, which will be extremely important for me later. And, by the way, one of the events that hit me in the head and knocked out a part of the ambition is connected with the Network and with my being the head of the cs-clan. I am extremely grateful to the person who gave me the boss that time. I then walked for almost a week, thought ... and in the end I became much more serious about many things. So after that moment I can hardly consider the network useless and harmful.
2) I agree in principle.
3) Again, I agree, I was personally lucky in this regard ...
4) It all depends on the attitude to all this, you can look and not try to transfer to the plane of life, but you can _want_ to transfer ...