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bd_sm [TDPG] 06.01.22 11:32 pm

PvP Propaganda Congress. (Diablo 2)

I bring up the topic of attracting new players to High PvP.
Under High PvP, I propose to mean Fair PvP, as well as power options for unfair PvP. Under the power types of enfeira, I propose to understand any types of duels and hunting, in which the subject of the process seeks to be in an active and dominant position. Thus, we will exclude from consideration the problem of propaganda of all kinds of fisting for bow-forty, even if they are dressed in jahis.
Congress does not set the task of finding out who is stronger. We set ourselves the task of rectifying the degeneration of PvP on the peg by attracting a stream of new blood.
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bd_sm [TDPG] 06.01.22

Anatoly
And you could not take C / T for a multi-cut on the parking lot?

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spambot575123 06.01.22

3m3m
You write nonsense. It's not fun to drive wild boars, but to run around with normal handy guys normal PvP (fair or "unfair" is not so important). This is not demagoguery, but a discussion of a real problem - the lack of a PvP community on the PG.

In d2, everyone plays with different goals, but the situation is such that the majority of players (including those who are quite wealthy) have absolutely no understanding of what is normal PvP and what is its essence. I heard from a very large number of people that "PvP in d2 == crap", "I can't PvP", "It's not mine", etc.

Of course, there are people who, for one reason or another, are not at all interested in killing real players. But I am extremely convinced that the overwhelming majority of those whose stay in d2 is not connected in one way or another with PvP, are simply not fully aware of all its charms and chips. The introduction of this kind of people to the culture of PvP is in question.

I suggest that you think about it for 5 minutes and join the discussion (if, of course, you are interested in a sufficient number of worthy opponents).

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ZRDn 06.01.22

firkax
including those supported by the Azs who talk about the alleged need for enigma and wiggling for pvp.
You know how to argue whether you need a gaming mouse with a cool sensor (especially in shooters) or not.
That is, if you are krivoruk, then the dear mouse will not straighten those hands, but if everything is ok with the hands, but the bad mouse will start to restrain you. Likewise, with good pvp gear, if you are krivoruk, then for example, it won’t fix it, and if your hands are straight, then without the norms of gear your chances of winning with the same handy plower only in good gear will be much lower ...
So while in the game there are such things as yeni and shitty drop, people will continue to write about the need for yeni and locomotives)

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kot-stargazer 06.01.22

Fathers of pvp!
Nubars are not interested in pvp, they are interested in: quality, jerking off, mf, uber, shoto more, xs sho (playing football with a chicken in act 1). :)) Those who have played enough pvm turn their attention to pvp, but when faced with the realities of pvp, many are simply disappointed. I
'll try to explain why: 4-5 months have passed since the reset ledger (approximately), the fathers of pvp have already collected both eni and sticky and anihi and have already stocked up with boards with hp, because they purposefully went to this, and people who want to try pvp usually collect more less combat-ready Persian about 6 months ATO and a year, by that time the fathers of pvp will simply not be attainable for their gear, so the meaning of pvp for beginners is lost as an eternally unattainable dream.
there are a couple more vital aspects, there is no normal resource management, both pvp and in general. No one wants to take responsibility for the organization, and those units who are ready to offer and carry out something are dabbling and sprinkled right there on the forum (an example of this is the recent topic of Greenstyle, or mine about pvp 200 fcr magpies.)
On another server where there were so few people in that year, every 2 weeks a pvp tournament was held, there were not many participants, 8-10 people agree, but the guys were constantly skating, CONSTANTLY !!! name - Hatebridor (admin pvp) and his clan. The person was interested, he found a couple of like-minded people and did and controlled everything on his own, and not for everything and for everyone. Yes, thanks to Enzel, there remained a crazy system of pvp and pvm games (some like it, some disappointed), but it was Hatbridor who correctly and competently disposed of the resource.
You have a resource (in some way the best in some way, bad), you only need to learn how to manage them correctly, while this is not there, but I see that you have already started asking questions and looking for solutions.
It remains only to wish you success, which I am doing.

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bd_sm [TDPG] 06.01.22

kot-stargazer
If the Nubars were interested, I would not have convened the Congress.

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XpeHoToH 06.01.22

For high lvl pvp, a lot of expensive / rare items are really required, which the average pvm player does not have. On the lld, too, you can't jump too much without special things, and you can count the builds of combat-ready on your fingers.
Alternatively, you could play a pvp tournament on level 50, for example. At the same time, announce in a month or two so that there is time for preparation. Here, almost all high lvl builds can be implemented, teleport charges from gear will be available if required, skillrs can be hooked, in general there is where to roam, and putting on a combat-ready enchant in most cases will not be a big problem.
This is if the problem of high lvl pvp is inaccessibility. And there, if the new people pull up, someone will like mb and want to get confused under high lvl (hardly, of course, but what if?)

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bd_sm [TDPG] 06.01.22

XpeHoToH
The staff of propaganda organizers, one way or another, will turn out to be small. So you have to choose what to do. And the idea itself is not bad. However, its potential in this phase of the process (let's call it the letter D, from the word Bottom) is very doubtful.

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kot-stargazer 06.01.22

bd_sm [TDPG]
This is understandable, but after all, the congress is for that and the congress so that the participants can speak out and come to a decision in the end, or am I not aware of something? :))
XpeHoToH
pvp 50 lvl is nonsense, then it is better to just hold tal-rush svs tournaments without inventory, with a limit of 90-95 lvl to raise courage and at least some kind of skill and understanding of the basics of pvp.
so that they come out and not worry that their father is playing against them with a full pack of 40 + hp boards, so that they can really see that the same rubbish in tr, and that only the planning of skills and hands decides, in general, only hands.

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XpeHoToH 06.01.22

kot-stargazer
pvp 50 lvl-
nonsense Why nonsense then right away, where are the arguments?

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3m3m 06.01.22

kot-stargazer
ne soglawys, rewayt ne tolko ruki, no i ping

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bd_sm [TDPG] 06.01.22

kot-stargazer
Yes, everything is so, I just got the impression that your post seems to be telling us "sopany USE krap, shake the oars, there will be no wine"

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kot-stargazer 06.01.22

XpeHoToH
arguments in my post above, + I will add more: how do you imagine a noob and even with teleport charges? He will merge right there, and then what next? This is what I suggested that the nubs should be drawn into it better to bring them right to the trap, cheaply and angrily, and in general pvp learns better (not necessarily) either to start with a magpie or an amka, and then at least tear everyone up with an anti-caster.

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yamas 06.01.22

kot-stargazer
what did you want from your 200 fcr theme?
"Pawony I came up with a tournament 200 fkr sork - if you want to do it, don't make me fancy FSUs"

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Immense 06.01.22

kot-stargazer
you have already started asking questions and looking for solutions.
Questions are asked, but no solution is sought. In most cases, there is only one solution - it should be done by the admin / mod / administration. Nobody said, but let me do it, or at least I will help whoever will do it. And so you look and helpers gather up :) Well, "fathers", who will "steer"? Does anybody want?

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kot-stargazer 06.01.22

yamas Posony are we
going for a beer?
Ok, let's go, you pay for everyone, take us to the pub in a taxi, and then take everyone home in a taxi at your own expense. don't mind going for a beer !!!
Pasany, go to yuh, I just suggested that we go and drink beer, I don’t want to do it myself with such little guys, but if I want to, I’ll go with normal and adequate people.
I think the analogy is clear?
But the funniest thing about this is that many still do not understand this and write me comments like yamasa, here xs if you are trying to troll me, whether you are really like that ...

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kot-stargazer 06.01.22

Immense
Well, it's not for nothing that I wrote about another server and resource management, I kind of hinted to them that you voiced in plain text.

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XpeHoToH 06.01.22

kot-stargazer
I don’t know how for me - pvp on magpies in tr will be even more miserable, But on the whole, you’re right.
Here the problem is not that pvp noobs are not interested in pvp and so on. The fact is that the game has already outlived its usefulness in this form. Remained in it either specific fanatics or those who from time to time come to remember the old days. And nothing can be done about it already. And it's not really worth it. There are much more interesting things.
And yes, most of the pvp fans on this server are also fans of breeding grandiose srachs, with this approach they are unlikely to organize something together)

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yamas 06.01.22

kot-stargazer shitty
analogy)

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bd_sm [TDPG] 06.01.22

kot-stargazer
We will proceed from the fact that the administration is shit about us. It would not be shit - it would have ALREADY been decided, on the sidelines by a whisper, not a cathedral.

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kot-stargazer 06.01.22

XpeHoToH
And yes, most of the pvp fans on this server are also fans of breeding grandiose srachs, with this approach they are unlikely to organize something together)
I can't help but add how I looked into the water. :))
yamas
can and worthless, but the meaning of what is happening, she passes well, and the fact that it is someone not on perfume for me ... (pg. Pg such, can not be here otherwise :))

bd_sm [TDPG]
Naturally shit, you remember how much stench and whining it took to at least make a reset.
And there is nothing to expect from them, do it yourself, you have everything ready under your nose: a forum, a server on which you can hold tournaments, collect a pvp clan from folders and assign responsibilities. You, Torum, T-fox, + who else is pvp Interestingly. T-Fox is one of course, how the modern fair cannot cope, 3-4 people need to modernize so that they can help each other, or replace if anything. Let the Torum shout to everyone in the chat, he loves chat, at the same time he will anneal with his fans there: )))))
1-2 people put everything on the forum to lead and advertise. Tables are there, answers to questions, etc. I think Greenstyle could be one of them (I didn’t see him especially in pvp like, is he a father or no, I don’t know, well, in terms of communication, he seems to be an adequate guy)
And you will have about everything as I described on another server, then. But this is so, my conjectures, let’s tell. Ofc, you decide.