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bd_sm [TDPG] 06.01.22 11:32 pm

PvP Propaganda Congress. (Diablo 2)

I bring up the topic of attracting new players to High PvP.
Under High PvP, I propose to mean Fair PvP, as well as power options for unfair PvP. Under the power types of enfeira, I propose to understand any types of duels and hunting, in which the subject of the process seeks to be in an active and dominant position. Thus, we will exclude from consideration the problem of propaganda of all kinds of fisting for bow-forty, even if they are dressed in jahis.
Congress does not set the task of finding out who is stronger. We set ourselves the task of rectifying the degeneration of PvP on the peg by attracting a stream of new blood.
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kot-stargazer 06.01.22

bd_sm [TDPG]
I was just thinking, it's probably a shame to kill 3-4 months to collect a normal pvp enchant, and then after collecting it to understand that there is no particular pvp with anyone. :))) As I once wrote to Torum, there was at least some drive with Negative on the forum and on the server, so you got stuck, he dumped, and now about the old fun times, the toko quotes in the Obssed's quotation remained, it will soon come that you will play pvp with yourself in 2a windows :))))))

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T-fox 06.01.22

Posons, are you going for a beer?
Ok, let's go, you pay for everyone, take us to the pub in a taxi, and then take everyone home in a taxi at your own expense. don't mind going for a beer !!!

Rather like this:
Cat: Potsany, I came up with something, let's get together like a thread, let's say, for nature, for a barbecue, only I won't drink, I won't make a barbecue, I won't fold either, and I won't go anywhere at all. I'm just wondering what will come of it.
Potsany: I went crazy.
Cat: whimper whimper.

Nubars are not interested in pvp, they are interested.
You are a nubyar, but nevertheless you played pvp.

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yamas 06.01.22

kot-stargazer
the fact of the matter is that the meaning is not the same, but oh well, t-fox has already explained

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bd_sm [TDPG] 06.01.22

The kot-stargazer
forum is quietly dragging along at leisure, there is nothing to allocate special personnel for it,
and in general it is impossible to assign roles here as with advice
when motivating fathers to do something useful for PvP, their personal flow must be taken into account, otherwise it will be routine and
no one will work out duties on duty , this is simply inadequate to the realities of q2

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Naww 06.01.22

The idea of ​​making duels in the same clothes looks so-so, because someone is comfortable in one set, another in another. Yes, and it will not last long, you must agree, looking at some forty in three sets is not comme il faut at all. Somehow everyone moved away from the topic, because initially it was written about attracting people to top pvp, and not talking about. IMHO, the only thing that can attract a person to carry steam locomotives for three months is personal motivation (aka the offender hooked him strongly, it would be necessary to take revenge, or alternatively, a person should just like to carry wigs (lolwto?)). Since the overwhelming% of those who play here are people over 18, it will not be possible to catch on, simply by PCs, or something like "nub opushen".
Yes, even if a person is interested, what arguments can be made in favor of fair pvp? Not less than 3 months of non-stop wigs for the sake of ubershmot and ghostly "prestige" VS fisting / filing fissures near the corral / tracing in the shortest possible time (and, accordingly, by playing "at will" and not "by necessity")?

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T-fox 06.01.22

Naww
Za4em je top? Dlya na4ala nado 4tobi stalo bolwe jelauwix igrat6 pvp voobwem. Na dannui moment y menya blizzka v tr sete s clear sk i tor4em 16/11 spravlyaetsa s etoi zada4ei. Posle mojno bydet sobrat6 amky 4ytka podoroje, posle, gdet goda 4erez pol, mojno yje sobrat6 nastoyawego main pvp persa, v dorogix rw, rarkax i charkax.
Prosto ludyam nado pokazat6 dewevyu alternativy, 4to ne obyazatelno delat6 persa na 10 jah, 4to mojno deweven6ko ykomplektovat'sya, i 4to pri doljnoi snorovke etot pers bydet pokazivat6 normalnie rezyltati s (vsm) Amka, Sorka, Pal, Barb, Assassin mogyt igrat 'bez enigmi, eto ne fantastika. Pri4em v ymelix rykax sorka, odetaya na ber + anix, raspetlyaet 80% normalno odetix pevepewnikov na pg.

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kot-stargazer 06.01.22

bd_sm [TDPG]
otherwise it will be routine and
no one will work out duties on duty, this is simply inadequate to the realities q2

And what did I suggest to force someone? you need a clearly designated leader who wants and will do this + a couple of associates - you don't have this and therefore this option is completely eliminated. Wait from the administration for something, boo-ha-ha, I’ll do the SBC 200 fcr tournament faster :))) ))))))))) This option, as you understand, also disappears.
Remains toko perhaps yours, pc or something else you discussed above.

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bd_sm [TDPG] 06.01.22

kot-stargazer
That is, Cancer opened the congress with its hammer blow, and you ended it with yours?

T-Fox's posts are really sour, but yours in this thread are more like flood and offtopic than his. Although God forbid me to have something against you personally.

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kot-stargazer 06.01.22

bd_sm [TDPG]
No office, I don’t know just what else could be discussed, but the fact that this is your topic and probably you should close it, you’re right, well, or continue further. Bro will be corrected.

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T-fox 06.01.22

It was not so there, but to me ...
It is clear what is wrong, you didn’t offer to gather for barbecue there. But the analogy I gave, unlike yours, was correct.

-Nubars are not interested in pvp, they are interested ...
-You are nubars, but nevertheless played pvp.
-If you think that you ...
- I don't think I wrote anything stupid there. There is more sense in that phrase than in all your sheets in this topic. Firstly, I gave you an example, in which I indicated a noob you know (more than a friend) who is interested in / was interested in pvp. Than denied all your post on the NN-th number of meaningless words. And secondly, I made it clear to people who do not know you that you, to put it mildly, are not a pvp expert. So that they know that it is necessary to think more than a little more than to think carefully before drawing conclusions or making decisions regarding PvP, operating on your posts.
But just with the assumption that I wanted to hurt you, you contradict yourself a little. Then you shout all the time that you are a noob, and when they call you it, you think that they want to offend you.

ZY "All the time" was said for a catchphrase, but the fact that you have called yourself a noob is a fact.

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bd_sm [TDPG] 06.01.22

T-Fox
kot-stargazer
I want to remind you that the topic was not created to find out who is stronger in pvp
personal graters are also not welcome here.

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kot-stargazer 06.01.22

T-Fox
Me communication with you, sometimes the dude from that video reminds me "washed down the door for me", Your post, by the way, according to the semantic load, already reminds posts of Negative, there are a lot of bukav, but the meaning is blurred.
And by the way, bd_sm [TDPG] is right, if you want to discuss something, create another topic, or write to me in pm, I hope we can talk normally there, no like last time. :)))))

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T-fox 06.01.22

bd_sm [TDPG]
Duck nobody found out, at least in this topic.
And on the topic, if, then there are not many options:
- PC league
- Tournaments every week or two.
- PvP ladder.

More like ideas did not arrive. Carrot ideas (tournaments, ladders) will turn out to be more effective than carrot ideas (PC league), IMHO. After all, we want to lure players into pvp, not drive them. After all, if you go too far, then you can beat to death with a whip, I hope you understand what I mean.

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bd_sm [TDPG] 06.01.22

T-Fox
Of course, don't go overboard. The only question is where is this inflection point. I can assume that it is fundamentally unattainable in the reality of q2. Roughly speaking, no matter how much you bake, we will not make it much worse, since they will go with passwords, create with restrictions, bring in defenders, etc. , even if watching their defender chase with a grunt and hoot of a close-minded PC player.

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firkax 06.01.22

spambot757123
PvP in d2 == crap
you heard this from those who didn’t play in d2 either (“played a month and scored” doesn’t count, naturally)
none of those who play enough time do not write
this, but write that they don’t know how to pvp - may well, yes, but this is already a different topic (including those supported by the Azs who talk about the alleged need for enigma and wiggling for pvp) of a
real problem - the lack of a PvP community on PG
is not a
pvp problem, this is not a phenomenon that can create around itself adequate community
what kind of "communities" are created around pvp you probably saw on all sorts of poor resources
for normal pvp players this is just one of the activities that they can be engaged in

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Obsessed 06.01.22

supposedly the need for enigma and wiggling for pvp
firkax, I support, everyone, except for the swine, should walk! and sorych must shoot from a bow. if, ofc, this is the norm. ;-)

it was the community that was
neighing.

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bd_sm [TDPG] 06.01.22

Goodwin Emerald
let me help you find the clothes you are interested in on Pala, and you use your remarkable brain to help me with this difficult topic

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QLinkee 06.01.22

>> but this is a different topic (including the one supported by the Azs who talk about the alleged need for enigmas and wiggling for pvp).
Pvp in enigmas compared to pvp on foot is like a different game.

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SergeyS1988 06.01.22

Bez enigmi mnogie sborki voobwe neigrabilni, konew mojno igrat bva pod fort + wm ili hamami v lione, no tot je drul i nekor bez eni budet prosto miwen'y.

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T-fox 06.01.22

SergeyS1988
Dryid i necor - eto vsego 2 sborki (ny v osnovnom) =)