Plot [spoilers] (Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2)

Now this is a very good idea! Perhaps Shepard wanted to kill Price because Price did not want to obey and generally began to seize the initiative in the conduct of hostilities. Therefore, perhaps the first priority was to eliminate Price, and Ghost and Roach were eliminated as possible witnesses.

Shepard wanted to be the only hero of America and he doesn't care about people, he only cares about himself.
asdbanz, in your opinion, the heroism of a soldier and a general, is that the same thing?
What, he would say later: "I took a machine gun and cut out everyone at Makarov's house"?
If he carried out the operation without loss, it would be very good for him. He was required to competently complete the task, what do you think, what reputation is better for him: a general who fights without losses or a general who does not care about people? By the way, he behaves strangely - he lost 30,000 people and is very worried about this, which does not prevent him from killing his people.
The thought occurred to me: Shepard needed dead heroes. This explains a lot: he unleashed a war with Russia in order to restore the balance of power and neutralize the threat from the socialists (overseas they are afraid of them like fire). To do this, he paid Makarov to arrange a terrorist attack and provoke Russia. Then he received carte blanche to capture Makarov, and began the hunt for the main witness. And he had an old resentment that he and his people were fighting, shedding blood, and the civilized world didn't give a damn about it. And then he decided that if ordinary Americans have a war under their noses, i.e. on their territory, they will not remain indifferent. In addition, he needed a war to a victorious end, and without fresh forces, one should not count on it. And in order for "crowds of patriots" to appear, dead heroes are needed. Yes, dead heroes. An example to follow. In addition, Price was close to stopping the war, which Shepard did not like very much. As a result, according to Shepard's plan, Ghost, Roach, Soap and Price become heroes of America, the guard of honor at the graves, the "crowd of patriots" in the military registration and enlistment offices, Shepard experiences moral pleasure from the sight that "no one is forgotten, nothing is forgotten", and , as a proven military officer, receives new medals, titles, orders.
How do you like this interpretation?

For the most part I agree with the post above.

But still...
Shepard simply didn't need Makarov anymore - his people, the so-called Shadow Company, are trying to get rid of him in The Boneyard. It was important to do this not officially, but using the Shadow Company, who were infinitely loyal to him, so that Makarov would not have the opportunity to confess in connection with Shepard.
Price and Soup witnessed this.
Consequently, they could later denounce Shepard, or at least question his sincerity.

in the initial video, Shepard in the photo is the spitting image of Old Snake, only without an eye patch))))))

Guardian
It was important to do this not officially, but using the Shadow Company, infinitely loyal to him, so that Makarov would not have the opportunity to confess in connection with Shepard.
Price and Soup witnessed this.
Consequently, they could later denounce Shepard, or at least question his sincerity.
Do you think? What is incriminating here? A general knows better than a soldier who to send into battle. Why, Shepard sent them on a mission, so he knew from the beginning that they should not return from him.

Still, I do not agree that the terrorist attack in Moscow was organized by Shepard. Firstly, Makarov himself did not mention anything about this, but he could easily have done this in order to shield himself, in a conversation with Price. Secondly, Makarov's line is being lost, as the successor of Zakhaev's work. Zakhaev fought for the idea, and then Makarov was stupid for money, it turns out.

Although on the other hand, if the terrorist attack was organized by Shepard, then his last words finally make sense ...

Nemesis
Well, everything converges!
Zakhaev fought for the idea, and then Makarov was stupid for money, it turns out.
It's true you say. If Makarov was a Zakhaevite, would he start a war with America and kill his own? And so, Shepard's opening remarks that Makarov is a man without ideals and a Motherland, fighting for money, fully justifies himself.
And the fact that Makarov is poorly represented is the trouble of the scriptwriters (the main villain: he
says 4 phrases during the game ("Not a word in Russian", "We have all been waiting for this day", "Like you", "This principle works in both sides, Price"), appears live once, spectacularly leaves, and then we admire his unwashed muzzle from the loading screens).

Well, then why was it necessary to insert this canoe about Zakhaev on horseback, about the new Russia, into the beginning of the game? It also looks like a parody, and in this case it has nothing to do with the plot at all.

And further. Remember the words from the video: "revenge is on me, and I will take revenge." Who spoke them? Makarov? But he worked for money, for whom could he avenge? Or is it Shepard's words?

Nemesis Sc. the person has already explained that this was an introduction to show, watered. the situation in Russia --->> "In the Russian Federation, a nationalist government, the National Socialists, came to power." :)

What the hell? To explain why Russia attacked the US? In my opinion, any country after such garbage at the airport would take up arms. Not necessarily radical.

After all, this introduction, firstly, looks like a parody, and secondly, it has nothing to do with the plot. So why was this parody made?

The introduction was made for one purpose - to show that now the Zakhaevites have come to power and we are not at war with them. And they were replaced by new villains. After the Zakhaevites seized power, the states could no longer influence the situation. And such a plot twist was made with one goal - to show the war of the states and someone else, a handful of militants are not enough, a close-knit, terrible sickle-and-hammer enemy is needed.
Nemesis
After all, this entry looks like a parody in the first place
. In my opinion, half of the plot looks like a parody.
Curiously, IW thought that the mission at the airport could offend someone's feelings, but they didn't think that the statue of Zakhaev on Red Square was offensive?!

Nemesis! Have you tried to look at the story from a different angle? Look what I got.
1. In CODE-4, the sluggish democratic government of Russia (like B. Yeltsin) fought against the separatist-nationalists of I. Zakaev (a clear allusion to the Chechen wars)! At the same time, according to the plot, Russia is so weak that without Western help (in the form of British special forces) it cannot cope with this on its own. And in Russia itself at the same time there was an opposition of the "national-communist" direction. This is evidenced by posters on the walls and other propaganda that we see everywhere in the game.
2. Then he kills Zakayev - the British special forces and the war with the separatists stops! This is what we have at the end of COD-4.
3. Then, according to the plot, there is a gap of 5 years, during which a change of government and a change of political course take place in Russia. The new government (according to Western views, ultra-nationalist) is pursuing a tougher position towards the West, those naturally do not like it .... and this is where the fun begins! :-) The mean west is starting to act!
4. Real .... see for yourself .... An American spy satellite falls on the territory of a sovereign state next to a Russian military base. Note the Russian military base, not the base of the terrorists. If we assume that the base is as big as Baikonur, then it can be directly on the territory of the base. And what's going on? English (!) Special Forces are sent behind the American satellite module, i.e. It turns out that NATO is attacking a Russian military facility. The fact that this is an English special forces, and not someone unknown, will not be difficult to establish - the guys "burned out" and could not cleanly do their job.
5. What happens next? In the wake of the attack on a military facility, the next day there is an attack on a civilian! And who is behind this? That's right - the main villain! Makarov is hired for the money of American taxpayers to do the dirty work, and he agrees. But although he is a performer, he is by no means a fool and leaves a good piece of evidence - a dead American instructor, as a clear hint of where the wind blows. Yes, and the FSB probably knew something, so Russia's response is quite predictable within the storyline. There are a lot of blunders and absurdities in the game, but the main idea is generally clear...

For some reason, I think that IW draws inspiration from some real events, and it is quite possible that the war in Ossetia served as a hint for the game, where the West was the provocateur and initiator of the war (Georgia in real life, and here Shepard), and the aggressor was declared Russia.

Interesting, but where did the statue of Zakhaev on Red Square come from then? And Allen's corpse is not Makarov's initiative, but part of Shepard's plan (otherwise there would be no raids on amers).
And the idea about Ossetia is interesting, although I think it’s not for us to judge who attacked whom.

1. In the West, Russian reality is poorly known. They could assume that since Zakayev fought against the "democrats", then the new Russian government could erect a monument to him as an ally and new martyr. We understand that such a monument could be erected "in the homeland of the hero" (like Kadyrov Avenue), but not on Red Square, but they are not. In addition, a gap of 5 years between the events allows you to interpret the events as you like ... it is not clear ... the separatists gained independence or are they still part of the Russian Federation controlled by Zakayev's followers.
2. Now, as for Makarov .... he is much smarter than it seems at first glance. Shepard gives Allen very specific instructions - to eliminate Makarov after completing the assignment and to shift all the blame on the terrorists. What for? Yes, at least in order to divert attention from the attack on the base in Kazakhstan. And you never know what else Shepard planned to do under the guise?
3. What does Makarov do? At the last moment, he suddenly orders - not a word in Russian! What for? Yes, in order to complete the task, get money for it and put everyone on the wrong track. You noticed, everything worked out great for him ... :-) And he threw Mr. Shepard through x_y very beautifully. Tom has no choice but to call two suckers from the English special forces and tell them - find me from under the land of Makarov, he threw me and I want to settle accounts with him !!!
4. But then go blunders. I just don’t understand why the British all the time stupidly harness themselves to those matters that, in theory, do not concern them at all? In addition, each soldier has his own commander and the English soldier, the American general cannot order anything, only his own! Well, okay ... what does Shepard say to them ... like all the facts testify against us ... only I know that Makarov is to blame for everything! How do you know this sir?! - Yes, here are the Russians here, with whom we are almost at war, and who think that we did it, handed over the parcel with an opportunity - shell casings from the crime scene, for verification in our bullet casing, and they themselves flew further .... from them like there were some things in Washington! So what? It is clear that he cannot tell them the truth - so I sent him myself! But trying to reach Makarov through his suppliers of weapons and ammunition is a perfectly sound idea. But how the shells got to Shepard is a mystery to me.

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5. I will continue... Following the trail (and at the same time fighting against Russia) ... our heroes eventually learn the bitter truth ... Shepard gets what he deserves ... but in the end they have nothing against Makarov himself. All the witnesses are dead, the evidence has been destroyed, there is no evidence. That's all, he is clean before the law and you can probably even run for the State Duma or the Legislative Assembly ... So who outwitted whom?

How many missions are there?? And then I didn’t understand anything

Folks, I have such a feeling that the longer we dig into the plot, the more confused. My head is already spinning from all the logical conclusions. I think we just don't have enough information. A short list of questions that must be answered first of all in order to get some kind of base:
1) Who is in power in Russia?
a) Zakhaevites
b) socialists
2) Who was the customer of the terrorist attack?
a) Makarov (he ordered, arranged it himself)
b) The Russian government
c) Shepard
d) CIA
3) What is the role of Makarov in the whole plot?
a) A mercenary terrorist working for money
b) A patriot trying to overthrow the current government (like Vlasov)
c) FSB special agent
d) Shepard's agent
e) Bandit politician
4) With what drunkenness did they even take up Makarov? After all, was there a reason why they put a mole to him?
a) The CIA had information about the impending terrorist attack
b) Shepard betrayed his accomplice ("I have information that such and such a terrorist ...")
c) After Zakhaev, the CIA is closely monitoring everything that happens in Russia.
5) How did the amers get to Makarov? I mean, how did they know he did the bombing?
a) Watched the news, then rummaged through the archives
b) The CIA knows everything
c) Shepard brought them out
6) Allen's death:
a) Part of Shepard's plan (to start a war)
b) the result of Makarov's insight (he killed him to blame everything on the amers, and get out of the water)
c) planned in advance by Makarov (to start a war)
I understand that some questions may seem crazy, but if we formulate an opinion at least on these issues, it will help us to discuss further.

dmb_87_en

"Shepard gives Allen very specific instructions - eliminate Makarov after the mission is completed and blame the terrorists."

Captain obvious? In order for the terrorists to begin to be considered guilty after the terrorist attack, they also need to be substituted? ))) That is, if Allen had not killed Makarov, then the terrors would have been innocent? Gyyyy

This statement contradicts itself, and you, starting from it, began to conduct further reasoning and generally got confused. I don't think Shepard would order such a brutal attack just to divert attention from the operation at the military base.

mark_666 ! Unsubscribe from the list what I think:
item 1 - ultranationalists, the new government of the nationalist persuasion, which replaced the democrats.
item 2 - Shepard, through the CIA, he is an influential person with good connections.
p.3 - Makarov is a complex person who has something in common with Father Makhno, but is ready to work for money if there is an interest.
p.4 - Makarov must be controlled, and if necessary, immediately eliminated. It's dangerous out of control. He knows a lot. In short, the new Osama bin Laden.
p.5 - Shepard and the CIA themselves sent him there, if they don't know.
item 6 - Makarov is smart and insightful. He used the situation to his advantage.

Yes, I passed the game .... VERY cool game! tougher than the first! bad cho not very big... but pleased that Price was alive! game +11!