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ZONTeek 13.09.19 02:17 am

Questions about endings [Spoilers]

I was not able to gather together. The whole game there are different hints

Solidariser killed Jess
Jess and Dylan are the same person
In the final, very thick implying that Jess is just an office worker at the Beck and call and all it imagines
So hot nobody mentions how if he were there and never worked

The plot in brief: the Director of contracted Hisami, began to control everything, then shot, and then there is Jess in search of his brother. Then what does piece of the game after the first credits?

May I casually played and missed important notes, but if these hints have at least some confirmed basis, I beg to decipher.
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Dako7 13.09.19

How many missions in the game, main and extra, without these countermeasures the normal missions, I like all the ran writes 28, missed something?

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Modrin 13.09.19

Dako7
Well, like all the missions are obvious. Have me their identity 28. The rest is all sorts of secret places. Including the fact that around the hearth are equipped with fire 6 pieces that you can throw into the fireplace, and get gain weapons 100% return of the cartridge for getting.

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Kokoprime1991 13.09.19

And nobody wondered why it is in such a huge complex only one cleaner, who turns out to be in the right place at the right time? Where are the others? Cleaning of such arrays is not under the power 1ному, I'm inclined to the fact that the janitor's a play on words meaning he (PROBABLY) the eyes and ears of the Council, watching what would have been a balance of things and in the case of invasion could help (which he does giving the player to pass the maze). As though the Council is not material (well, maybe not in this dimension) and only Much may from them the permission to participate as a sign of this dedication may have given it the power comparable to the divine (well, part of a set)... again, a guess.

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Baltika devyatochka 13.09.19

Tell me what the track playing when in the maze, after followed the memories so Hot? Rock some plays right at the entrance to the maze.

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Shimuto 13.09.19

So hot God/member of the Board/Council of the gods (forgot whose... what language is he talking? A Finnish God?) References to the baths, his music is in the player group some there are the old gods. Where he gives the player on the column carving, Scandinavian cultures? What kind of culture the gods with flowers say? His pchelovechnost a million hints in the game.

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Sefirot94 13.09.19

Modrin
Not found steal by darling slide? People, maybe someone found? Interestingly, there

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Modrin 13.09.19

Sefirot94
Darling tyrel slide with the world Gerona that the main character is not burned. Where did it go and where he lost,we know the second part. That is, never:)))

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Modrin 13.09.19

Sefirot94
I do believe that hedron not a positive character.

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Modrin 13.09.19

And by the way hedron most likely has not disappeared,but moved into the darling. With darling obviously something happened,he is fulfilling the orders Gerona and what you did because of what began to change. I think that hedron now uses his shell.

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SifoNator 13.09.19

Baltika devyatochka
Old Gods of Asgard - Take Control

How many bosses do in the game? Killed twice fridge (maybe the third time is? saw at least 3 of the platform in its world), the Anchor and the hole in the infected one. Other small and the plot is not considered.

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Modrin 13.09.19

SifoNator
Well, the game is not about bosses. So steamed makes no sense. If you took all the quests then all saw. What is hidden is not found.
Back where the cage was Dylan will be a small fight. With elite mobs. Pretty heavy. In principle, they are simple,but there are a few bases:))

SifoNator wrote:
Old Gods of Asgard - Take Control
The song is a solid hint that it is the subconscious mind and the two personalities fight for the right to control the body :))

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SifoNator 13.09.19

Just heard after the game there is still the boss

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Modrin 13.09.19

SifoNator
XS, no. Go through all sorts of side quests. The same boss mold,one-eyed,the anchor and the boss of the mirror.

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I0PuK 13.09.19

You can finish Tomassi after the final, the first boss that got away, reinforced the mob.

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Modrin 13.09.19

I0PuK
Well, it's kind of like the quest is given as well.

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legusor 13.09.19

I went through this bullshit and have made the following conclusions at the end + of the arguments about some Easter eggs and side events.
6 muscular 10And the darlings of the trench with darling with the projector moved into a cloaca in the trench moved IISI, and the darling hedron. III and hadron – thing from the same world, through sound change living beings in their own interests, and, according to information about the plot, confront each other, although this is not a fact. III and hedron choose key carriers of beautilful ability level of the Director of the Bureau, and simple slaves turn into dumb slaves (second only in the case of iismi about gedron there is no information). this is evident by the fact that the trench, darling (darling is also the ability to become a Director, but all the hints of it indirect), Jess and Dylan when infected by these entities could somehow control or switch from controlled entities in the state under the control of his own consciousness.
specific targets of eisov and Gerona(Polaris) in the story do not describe, however, given to understand that they both give its key carriers, a huge number of some uncertain loros game knowledge and seek somehow to spread through the media. this is evidenced by the behavior of Dylan during a MIS-trip, and the trench (the mission where Jess is office plankton), if you listen to it each time you visit.
in General and III and hadron can exist simultaneously in two forms: as an entity and as the sound radiation, regardless of their so-called "centers", i.e. a portal of resonance of eisov and camera Gerona, as evidenced by the presence of the so-called Polaris inside Jess and Dylan left at home hisami after the closing of the portal and the continued existence of the Polaris after the so-called death hedron.
darling are, besides being influenced Gerona, as well was through this entity somehow physically moved to another dimension. this he expressly warns in its videiko. same thing with the trench, despite his physical death in the oldest house. after the end of the story can be run for all locations and Jess will comment. in one of them, and in policydata dialogue with the Pope, she clearly says that these lost boys polyubasu will call up the red phone. and the darling, and the trench is there, keeping at least their own consciousness where the first of them suffered hedron and the second III. during the game the trench is associated with us on the red body, not because his thoughts are in the past tense kept the bullet from his service weapon, but because he's out there somewhere and has the ability to communicate on the red line, exactly like darling, he also calls Jess after his disappearance somewhere towards the end of the game.
issue is the loss of women-Negro, but I'm after the story she wasn't even anywhere to run, in the chamber of the Atlas it was not.
in the management sector remains a music box; it is needed for the DLC and gives the player missions-races with specific jobs (like).
Dylan after a decontamination does not die, but only falls into a coma because of the residual influence of Polaris. it is not known whether this signal Eisav or not. Polaris remains continue to exist with Jess.
now at home: dick knows that for sure is the house, the Council and the cleaner is so hot. cleaner is clearly cosplay of finlandica, it has the ability of the knitter and not paramilitarism lower level than the Director. also with the initiatives of cleaner we come to the base of the house. cleaner presumably can move inside any measurement freely walking around the house internal and external insulation (it shows a hint early in the game, and towards the end, where the mission with Jess-placenam office, where the janitor is present in real time in the minds of Jess, and this is all assuming that it is inside the emanation of the reality of the confrontation of Eisav and Polaris, probably in his subconscious or it is a separate dimension, but the cleaner is there, that's a real cleaner, not a figment of the imagination; this is what we say his lines), and also has the option under these conditions to enter and to release anyone in the house and on the street (so Jess and got into the house). cleaner clearly expresses powerism to the risks of eisov and crazy items of power. the cleaner seems to know all or much about the Council and about the house, and about a pyramid of black stone and everything encountered in the game measurement. none of the Directors of such information was not there. cleaner have to the base of the house, and presumably among the Council is someone like the Director, or at least influential of their messenger. in the game there is no direct information on the subject.
about the Council itself and the pyramid all information about the Laura game or Peresecina (dialogue with the Pope after the story) or erased tE. the Council directly manages the Director as his puppet, and so hot, for example, is designed to monitor the compliance of Soviet Gericom instructions. the pyramid in the astral world and the Foundation of the house made of black stone that not only blocks the sound in a certain frequency range, which makes the stone is good, but not perfect (judging by the notes) in the insulation abilities of many (but not all) of superpragmatic but also with the necessary Foundation to move the oldest house. quarry black stone is associated with the house, they are clearly from the same measurement. the oldest house was built and extended to people, hinting at some notes and polasweetie reasoning Jess that after a showdown with hisami will have to deal with heaps of forgotten divisions\sectors\blocks home. about inhuman nature of the construction and the extension also tells the system changes home radiation eisov (red zone) and radiation Gerona (point of control). I assume that the house is a separate physical dimension, which can be accessed from different worlds and come out of it in different worlds.
representatives of the Council look like firing the white balls pussies with tentacles (for example quests with Les Miserables\protesters, which the Council asks to kill). members also have the ability to control and change the subject of power, but fear of the resonance of Eisav. about, even if they know the essence of Eisav or Gerona, is not known.
a program about the night America – originally an ordinary broadcast, but later as a project Bureau for the identification of the AMC, a series about the children of the contact zone is an attempt by house staff psychological adjustment of youngsters, who had been with the AMC and will now live in the oldest house. talking about that right notes in the game.
specifically the situation with hisami is the result of the operation of the slide projector. while the fate of the slide with the portal of eisov after the end of the story is unknown. to the projector or slides, according to information from videos and notes, the Bureau has never encountered a power objects that open portals. and III, and gedron (Polaris) entered the earth through a portal open slide projector ordinarium. while it is not known whether paranormal and selected slides, and projector, projector only, slides only or otherwise, because one of the notes says that the projector worked commonly with personal slides some women from the office that brought them to test the hypothesis. it is also unknown where and how is it paranormal slides that open portals.
and III, and hedron able to subdue his field of paranormal subjects. only direct radiation, as I understand it, it can not do, can do merely the key carriers of a signal.
about the control system and development of eisov and Gerona with carriers after infection through sound, nothing is known at all, and notes on the species of eisov nothing open, just describe the actions and types of infected. this uncertainty was confirmed by the Pope in policydata dialogue with her.
moving home is always a dangerous Rand for its inhabitants, thus inside got evil mold that everyone wants to eat, then to get infected. only here it is quite strange in light of the fact that the house when moving can deal with any dimension and locally to move inside intruders (if the floor moves, then it's late and Tobi peace da, as in one note), and thus the most dangerous opening for a Bureau with the words of the leadership is the projector and its portals with hisami.
in the service sector, the oven is not simple, and changed the subject. according to one of notes and a mini-quest with TV we learn that the stove (hearth) able to communicate, but it does so selectively, and demands to be fed, the diet of the stove is variable, the stove also requires worship and rewards his servants.
there is also a reactor is not easy. in the notes it is said that the first reactor did goodbye when moving house but the new reactor that is currently not going anywhere, as enshrined some antiparallel garbage. the most interesting thing is that the new reactor is an energy guy who is locked inside 100500 protection and generates energy for all Bureau employees. this is mentioned in the notes, you can also run around the pipe reactor and see the control panel, where the camera in different poses writhing this energomost, releasing a lot of energy. about its history nothing is known.
in some places, for example on the 1st floor of the research sector, close to the dining room and in the room with the mold next to the battle with the first boss, you can find sets much cleaner, which is a radio and plays a song under the Finnish tango that we hear closer to the finale when the plot go for the player. there is the idea that it's not just a rack of mops and moving points or monitoring, so the cleaner was literally everywhere at once.
the red zone in the morning sector management arena of the final battle, and she changed the sector of nostalgia and location to open a portal resonance of Eisav in the house. before the final battle and after there is no way to get there.
caught all the changed items in the future can be seen on display in the freak show. caught a duck, if you see her, will occasionally wink.

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Modrin 13.09.19

legusor
First topic is a spoiler,so throw in a spoiler is not necessary.
Secondly, you yourself are bullshit.




legusor wrote:
III and hadron – thing from the same world
They are from different worlds. Just gadron thanks to Dylan and Jesse are trapped in a world where people stopped issow. It also came from another world. And at the time of the game slide with a world Gerona where is the darling. And trench was used not completely burned slide with the world issow.

legusor wrote:
confront each other, although this is not a fact.
I tend they have their own goals which hinders the other side.
legusor wrote:
Jess and Dylan when infected by these entities could somehow control or switch from controlled entities in the state under the control of his own consciousness.
Well, as I understand it they are unable to subdue and therefore work more subtly. One plays the good-natured and presses on positive feelings. The other presses on negative feelings.
legusor wrote:
issue is the loss of women-Negro, but I'm after the story she wasn't even anywhere to run, in the chamber of the Atlas it was not
Well, as I understand it understood that darling trench and who is in control. And Jesse is not quite free. She's clearly planning something.
legusor wrote:
Dylan after a decontamination does not die, but only falls into a coma because of the residual influence of Polaris.
not,the impact Polaris has dismissed Issa. He even resisted her that can be found on the records.
legusor wrote:
Polaris remains continue to exist with Jess.
Not a fact. It seems to me that darling to do something for Gerona,he says he ran some experiment and that it is changing and it's scary. I think it's on the tip of Gerona was made and that the disappearance Gerona and darling is not accidental. Because hedron disappeared and then appeared. Because of what all succumbed to the influence of isow. And after he appeared, but not in Jessie,then where?
legusor wrote:
also with the initiatives of cleaner we come to the base of the house.
No,it's because Gerona. Hedron told her where the house is located. What is the record in the game.
legusor wrote:
now at home: dick knows that for sure is the house, the Council
I do believe that the Council has set up an office and that it is looking for. And the house just comfortable. The fact that this house was hidden by an entity older than the house itself,I think the Council knew nothing about it. Then they just try not to touch it. Conflict between the Council and the cleaner no.
legusor wrote:
and also has the option under these conditions to enter and to release anyone in the house and on the street
I think he is not able to leave the house. But able to drive home. So is he on vacation went in the house, moving what he wanted in the house.
legusor wrote:
(so Jess and got into the house)
It seems to me that all the same it is because Gerona. But maybe you're right.
In fact everything is possible so. Hedron suggested finding homes. And the janitor let her in the house. But to leave the house, he is clearly not capable of. As unable to leave other entity dimension and they need a host.

legusor wrote:
cleaner clearly expresses powerism to the risks of eisov and crazy items of power.
Well, they are to him not able to do anything. He also for many years. So apathy is a normal phenomenon. Well, Issa is trying to capture the Council ,not cleaner. And the Bureau is the brainchild of the Council. In fact, he as the observer just watches and plays.
legusor wrote:
and presumably among the Council is someone like the Director, or at least influential of their messenger. in the game there is no direct information on the subject.
I would say that the janitor and the Council are not friends and are connected. In the game about it says nothing.
legusor wrote:
representatives of the Council look like firing the white balls pussies with tentacles (for example quests with Les Miserables\protesters, which the Council asks to kill).
Not a fact,it may just be some incarnation. But the fact that it's a one-eyed partisans,who had previously been a member of the Board,Yes.
legusor wrote:
but fear resonance of Eisav. about, even if they know the essence of Eisav or Gerona, is not known.
They obviously know,because Issa primarily sought to Council,it was their main task.

legusor wrote:
specifically the situation with hisami is the result of the operation of the slide projector. while the fate of the slide with the portal of eisov after the end of the story is unknown. to the projector or slides, according to information from videos and notes, the Bureau has never encountered a power objects that open portals. and III, and gedron (Polaris) entered the earth through a portal open slide projector ordinarium.
At the end of the game there are two slides,one in the world issow,the other in the world Gerona. What did Jesse with a slide in world issow unknown. What did the darling with the slide in the world Gerona also unknown.
legusor wrote:
personal slides some women from the office that brought them to test the hypothesis
She tried to resurrect their loved ones,gathered a bunch of slides and when they had gone tried secretly stuck slides with dead parents.
legusor wrote:
and III, and hedron able to subdue his field of paranormal subjects. only direct radiation, as I understand it, it can not do, can do merely the key carriers of a signal.
Well, I realized.

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potter790 13.09.19

Modrin wrote:
They are from different worlds.
They are one of the astral world. Dylan and Jesse found a modified overhead projector, activated it, and got ISA. Hedron, I understand, that's the other thing, which catch Dylan. After the shutdown he went into a coma, and the Jesse Polaris remained.
Modrin wrote:
Hedron suggested finding homes.
Not Hedron, and Polaris, and she was there. She had her own compartment, its own clothing object 7, suit this find. At first the janitor says that the type helper is back and this time comes in the end when the Secretary work. When the penetration isov she was in office, and worked as a Secretary.
Modrin wrote:
I would say that the janitor and the Council are not friends and are connected. In the game about it says nothing.
About the Council, too, says nothing really, Jesse says at the end of the conversation with the Pope that it is necessary to deal with this issue. Maybe where the secret lies, or DLS in more detail will reveal the essence of the Council. But the cleaner is quite strange, it goes without Aug, ISA does not touch him. What that muddy. You may find that associated with advice.

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Modrin 13.09.19

potter790 wrote:
They are one of the astral world. Dylan and Jesse found a modified overhead projector, activated it, and got ISA. Hedron, I understand, that's the other thing, which catch Dylan. After the shutdown he went into a coma, and the Jesse Polaris remained.
The game directly says that Polaris is hedron. Also in the game directly says that Issus from one world,and hedron from another world. Each of their world. The game also expressly States that hedron from the slide that Jesse left not burned and Issa from the slide that is not completely burned and found his trench coat and used it there and moved in Issa.
potter790 wrote:
Not Hedron, and Polaris, and she was there.
Hedron and Polaris are one and the same entity. This is directly stated in the game :)))) Just kids it was called Polaris,and darling called Gerona. This is one of the game twists. Which makes Polaris the entity which pursues its goals. So Jesse and not subject to the influence issow. Because this hedron. Darling ,but rather hedron,created these amplifier. And the game was a clear moment when hedron disappeared it disappeared and protection. So all including Jesse succumbed to the influence.Because hedron is Polaris. But it says that the source from Gerona disappeared,then appeared again. That is, hedron not disappeared,he turned. I think so because of eksperimenta darling,who clearly did something with him under the influence of Gerona. I don't understand how it was possible to beat the game and do not understand what gedron it's a Polaris :))) First time when we enter the area of the projector ,then Jessie asks you out that door, and Polaris responds with a glow. And behind the door was hedron. So when we go up to the console. Jesse says it's you,that's why you brought me here. The Pope of course says that the source for the RUG was Jesse. But I think hedron alive.
Secretary this implementation of sleep Dylan,he is telling you in the dialogue.
And7 and her just watched and all. And they controlled the psychologist to which she went. In one of the conversations with the psychologist and she says that the essence of the suggested to her where the brother and she the next day going there.
And clothes are just clothes.



potter790 wrote:
About the Council, too, says nothing really, Jesse says at the end of the conversation with the Pope that it is necessary to deal with this issue. Maybe where the secret lies, or DLS in more detail will reveal the essence of the Council. But the cleaner is quite strange, it goes without Aug, ISA does not touch him. What that muddy. You may find that associated with advice.
Different strengths of the mental entity. Each pursues his goal. Jesse is as strong essence,so that in the end won issow,not hedron helped her. In the end, in the end, she was no hedron and issow. Dylan and Jesse are in themselves strong. They can't control directly,so they are governed through the emotions.

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Modrin 13.09.19

potter790
By the way there is another document which says that the invasion has begun in the Executive branch.
And it is very interesting.
There are also records from the darling where he says that gedron speaks to him,shows the vision that he appear nepreodolim desire to do something. Oh, this hedron:))