The most shameful defeat (Medieval 2: Total War)
In my opinion, this theme is still not there... I Think that everyone has something to share with their comrades-in-arms.My example. Play as the Byzantine Empire. After the brilliant victory in the outskirts of Krakow over the poles, on the next move I see that hanging next to the Polish king with the army of the king himself (with a bunch of stars)and another rider from the protection of the commander (this is all that remains of the Polish army after the previous battle).
I'm with arrogant confidence sent them a detachment of mercenaries-the German mounted knights (though the squad is incomplete - 29 people., but with insignias). After my vigorous attack eagles half of the enemy army (a) - 1 person died almost immediately, but a couple of my fighters too. And then began the incredible - my riders hammering the Polish king, and he, while in a few minutes I have left 20, then 17, then 14, and this psheku could not care less. And then he began to fight with my commander. The result: my commander is dead, the remnants of the squad - in a panic, and the Polish king pursued them to the border of the map. I was really angry. Beat this shameful episode is sent together with the Germans a squad of mercenaries arcabucero (with three gold stripes). It was all over for the poles very quickly...
Sand4
I have a license, the time limit is not specifically included...and I stormed a city where only one wall...and in castles with multiple walls can lose count if from the fire archers had withdrawn their detachments of cavalry and infantry to a safe place and accidentally brought them too far, although it seems to have already written...although my enemies so defeat never counted, despite all their maneuvers...
Finally unban...
By sabzh:play in Venice, and despite the patch 1.2. accustomed to the fact that Milan is constantly betrayed in 1.0. and when I saw a large group headed by the member of the family, decided to strike first. But then(after the ultimatum was captured one city of the Empire, shamefully betraying me, though, and the odds were on their side) went to besiege Genoa, they make a trip and... There is a huge army, the garrison only as a backup! Since Milan was ~1200 and I only have ~550 warriors, I lost. I tried to replay, and never came out... But for Russia purged until only the rebels because I had about 200 warriors, the rebels are more than 600. It is not necessary to hope only for intuition...
that well, there is no hopeless battle to win is almost always at a computer - all it takes is the right tactics and all! here, for example, elephants are afraid of them like fire, and it's garbage and not the squad actually...
Only if there are pikemen with their wall of copies of and if you force the computer to give the command kill the elephants.
IMHO the most rational method of fighting against elephants - fire arrows ;) we taste in bikes :)
I'll try. And who-thread in the crusaders played a historical battle(can't remember the name) Kingdom of Jerusalem+the Principality of Antioch vs Turkey+Egypt?
I remember when he chose Egypt, shamefully lost to the crusaders. Then I started for Jerusalem, everything is fine won(though nevertheless, almost lose) due to a trebuchet(I think I'm the only one on the battlefield who firing of a trebuchet cows)
Tried against elephants... elephants. :) All with guns. Something nifiga not impressed. Beat 2/3 of the squad (he lost half). And then they got out of control. And here Eze flew to my elephants enemy General with a full set of stars and skulls, and these healthy beast ran! Not out of control came out, and just panicked! I mean the people sitting at them, scared. I just do not understand why: because the horseman could not kill an elephant (well, except Choate archery). It was necessary to trample, they run. :( Then still yourself and elephants out of control came out. Right in the middle of my already battered troops.
The most strange is that out-of-control elephants always flee to trample my troops! As my elephants and the enemy. In General swept my army smashed.
The enemy General somehow got carried away by the attack, and just then, near came to the remains of my two squads of crossbowmen. Of course I immediately launched them at the General. And he turned on them. No, they didn't kill him, managed to make three volleys, after putting a dozen guards, and obviously podanev the General himself. After that, they ran on an Express - without stopping. The last remaining close-controlled squad - my General. Throw it to the enemy, and lo and behold - after a minute of battle the enemy General killed! Hooray, a victory?! Nevermind! Of course ran some enemy troops, and the rest were on the verge of panic, but I had only a General, and two regiments of infantry, which are more like clients of the infirmary. In General, I retreated himself, the task at least was vypolnena, and the maximum strength was gone.
I remember in Rome to the Barbarians was a very shameful not to lose, but I guess you could call it that. I decided to part with the rebels, and specially after checking the spy that there are no lancers, and --- Oh miracle --- only three units of peasants, sent them his heir of the faction. When you pounce on the first squad of peasants the General himself was killed. Then my all still broke, no more not lost, but the General is dead, and hence detachment of it left. The result was a battle with a unique result: after it there was none...
And are just lost in addon Das Heilige Roemische Reich to the rebels. There the rebels are animals to them if they upset comes a reinforcement that instantly turns even on the strategic map within the village: when besieging them there, but it is necessary to press button storm when there is no turning back, and they are already there. And it is usually 5-7 units of average troops: archers of Lithuania, the Lithuanian horse archers, horse loggers and housecarls (not quite average) and with experience of 1-2 and a ride armor. Stormed Konigsberg (wooden city) three times. Whatever the case was the first time I do not remember: lost in the net. The second time it was kinda going by, but could not open the gate the cavalry. Then decided to pull the idle spear from the wall inside and climb on another wall, attacking the defenders of the Lithuanian lukara on the other side. Lowered, and then BAM --- and they attacked from nowhere who undertook foresters (probably missed). Spearmen suffered heavy losses, but held, and I have to replace them made walking huscarles, pulled them into the yard and left running. Almost happy: I'm going to chop up, wall climb inside and finally finish off the archers, then my cavalry (6 units) all and crumble. Two guys. The bad guy left a detachment of Polish cavalry noble reptiles. When my kerf and almost routed the pitiful remnants of the foresters, those bastards galloped from the square and didn't think to throw a dart, and made straight from the streets are awesome swoop and lost 2 killed me 48 huscarles. Housecarls and spearmen ran, followed by three more of the squad that fought with the Lithuanians on the walls. In General, so my cavalry into battle and did not come.
Pleased only what then in this town the Danes and the poles lost against the rebels in full stack almost. I have collected 14 units of robbers, Vikings and walking huscarles, took 2 catapult, General and 2 unit of cavalry and, although he lost 70% of their --- the city was taken.
I have inflicted the most humiliating defeat of Milan from the SVI, because the Italians consider their Genoese Lucara better fseh, and they sent a hell of Lucara and a detachment with a commander in the attack during the siege: 1) who sends the commander in front of all the troops (of the tower killed a couple of knights and it happened to others), but punk immediately runs into 5 groups of Apolonia spearmen(8 available+1купеческого militia) and (essno) dies then they dispersed lukara and my merchants are catching up with the archers(~900 prisoners). The result: the Commander, my adopted children, prisoners of war executed with extreme cruelty(without compensation, you still have no money), and Milan in shock, he gives for a peace Treaty freestuff Genoa.
I was dealt a humiliating defeat by the Mongols, as a party of 8(!) mounted Lucara against infantry with the cavalry and a small number of archers was unrealistic (I think they have infinite arrows?)
PS about guns (to AJQQQ) can cha out of ammo? at least one should be left, and then the AI don't like it
I had such a case: playing for Portugal and set off to conquer one of the cities of the Moors. I'm in the army 8 units of noble knights (with two-handed axes) and 6 units of guns. The Moors only a detachment of General. Promep wall, allowed the knights to break, anticipating an easy victory. Half way to the city centre on the street towards me catches the General cutting begins. I don't see the battle, thinking that the outcome is a foregone conclusion, but then you notice the weird thing died about 3 squads of knights, General's bodyguards have lost only one soldier! Well, I throw in all the reserves, thinking what is the break the battle, but the General just as easily mow them. In the end, the survivors fleeing. I had to retreat. The battle I lost 360 heavy knights, and the enemy 5 bodyguards. What it was: a shameful defeat or a bug?
It was Sultan. Bodyguards of the ruler - the most powerful melee unit. To destroy it, without great loss is possible in 2 ways: entourage, better simultaneously and fire.
I believe that this can be considered a bug. In terms of bug balance, ie, no emergency action program is not made, but the story is the same as with the General, causing several bumps that can't be killed. I wrote about this petja5 above.
I had such horror. I played for Sicily a year already 1200 some. And so I collected 3 large army and moved to Venice. The two armies I worked my dorogu to glory and the other decided to besiege the city (wooden) with not a bad army inside the well that would me they did not prevent war. Besieged but not attacked not even built siege or what. And then they decided to make a sortie on think the advantage is what. I then lined up the arrow with these machines ))) And pikemen. The fight was long almost all the shooters ran out of gunpowder and half of the pikemen were killed or disappeared. Actually, I drove them into the wooden base. And then how? they do not go and siege instruments. I fucked like a goof.
About the storming of the fortress, where he shot all bullets have guns, forgetting storey the wall.
In such cases, you can subrovskis on the first wall to stomp on it for a second. And with the second you can always get to the third. So after managed to get over the first wall (after breaking it through, winning or passing through the gate - doesn't matter), the need for artillery and siege equipment ceases to be so acute. Though of course beating on the walls heavier than on earth. Though not in cases where the enemy has many horses.
Usually when the castle gates and you break through, only one gate and you run out the battle is automatically lost.
Yes Lano to get screwed over.... not only a failure may with all the artillery to penetrate several gates))
I had a 1000 !!! man I played for Egypt and the company had 500 I just stupidly threw everyone in attack on single enemy squad ( Central) calculating the number and simply including an increase in looked and in the end a bunch of dismounted gothic knigts burst from the flanks of my army