MunchkiN 616
Well, I gave an example from today.
FX-9370 - 220Вт, the only detail that stands out - a large cooler or dropsy. I think it will be able to cool even my current GlacialTech Igloo H58 PWM.
And about the lack of communication T process heat and you're wasting it. The smaller the transistor, the lower currents are needed for the state change. and the stronger the core is heated. If at 32nm you could still dispel 220Вт! then 14нм with such heat it would burn out nftig. For smaller process technology - smaller size of a kernel of the processor, and how should the increase in heat on 1 mm2. After all, compare with the old FX and the new I7.it would seem that the Intel cooler is an indisputable fact, but on 1mm2 FX processor is somewhat colder of Intel that leads to a better process of cooling.
DartMaul
And most importantly forgot to mention that in all cases cooling systems - water is quiet, and this is the main reason for the decision of such cooling, because the CPU and both cards on water, RAM and disks without it. All the same, if the system is good, and water is worth the cost of silence in the room)
SUSUL1
there probably is an example of Tolstoy splooge nails and thin wire. of course at the first possible voltage to pass before it will burn but the heat he will have more and loss of energy will be in it so to speak tolstotu and resistance.
and so for example the same i7 5960 could be done for the process 105-90nm or whatever hemp 4 was there but it would be very fierce. in turn, a plant can not immediately proceed to the theoretical limit of semiconductors, for obvious reasons.
and regarding fhsa - I don't think he actually fulfills his watts to the Mat Board with a limited patalenica. here there and it turns out those 150 or how it is locked.
yeah Intel overclocking is about the same. and on the LGA 2011-3 I finally saw the Mat fee, which is supposedly the limit is 600 watts on the power to the CPU. here is just a fashion product with factory overclocking.
MunchkiN 616
Do not think that FX pants 10 phases, if we return to the recent past, the 125W processors, like a Hairdryer 940 quietly ate 125 watts sitting on a 4 phase power system. And we still broke up.
Because of their voracity, I think they're up to 150W could eat.
Well, AMD indicates peak consumption of the processor. In reality, it is very difficult to load to full load across all cores, except that of the benchmark. And energy-saving systems and so fighting for every watt not eat
I looked at all the old tests of processors, horrified! 125W processors, up to 30% overclocking, Yes in 4 phases, right from the top of the food chain is not something that has no radiator, and radiator of South bridge put on heat pipes!
And not a word of holivar, which AMD eats more or less than Intel!
http://www.thg.ru/cpu/amd_phenom_ii_x4/images/amd_board.jpg
Obviously at some period of time we marketers started to have! Its 8+2 phase CPU 8pin and...
PS
I was very surprised to learn that Venoma was neck and neck with the Intel series 9хх
Your Hairdryer I took no view tests, just to replace Атлонах2 215 when Supream commander began to slow down...
Suddenly a lot of text for half a day.
SUSUL1
The term of this cooler a maximum of 5 years without refueling
5 years it consider eternal. In a normal France while working under the pressure of 20 ATM, they are usually more than six months do not live, then start accounts.
And on the subject of dropsy - I meant that if the withdrawal from dropsy was unimaginably better than any air rifle I probably would not become to invest in.
MunchkiN 616
by itself, the t-process and the maximum heat dissipation is not connected
Not quite. Direct relationship special, because there are 2 vzaimosoedineniya process, one is reducing long reducing teplovidenie, and the other reducing the thickness of the section increase.
But the smaller the chip the more transistors there are, in short here it is necessary to dig deep to get to the truth.
But the process and persistence connected quite directly, unfortunately.
Mr.Sirocco
dropsy is quiet
Every day something new to learn.
Any system is quiet, if it is thin and useless. But if she was normal - she screams bloody murder that the air, water and freon. Dropsy of course you can make time, but to correct this would be long to bother with sound, and most importantly vibration isolation of pumps, they are there to pose a greater challenge. And of course PTS large radika and very sluggish coolers.
DartMaul
The fact of the matter is that after buying a new system unit, and it was the second space, managed by large quantity of space to deliver silent operation system with a good acceleration. If the body is small, then there is nothing to help :)
Yes, and I do not understand how people sit on 2 or more cards with regular air cooling, this is a hell inside the hull, or the wild roar from all valve, and noisy one point that is isolated to the maximum. The rest of the case blowing on the normal bearing quiet + filter layer and there is no noise, need to clean it all, too, walked a little cleaner on it and all :)
Mr.Sirocco
and it was the second space
If this is CoolerMaster I think inside he's good, but outside is so awful that I would never have taken. Of course the case with good insulation saves, I have an open bench there is no isolation, so in my case, a silent system is a myth.
Yes, and I do not understand how people sit on 2 or more cards with regular air cooling
Me too.
DartMaul
And how can you compare the heat transfer fluid and air in the tubes?
they have the same ranges works totally different?!
Ideally, you need to take the vent and dropsy with equal areas of dispersion, These two systems are so different that I can't even create the conditions for the comparative test! H water is clear, but the tube is a hell of a thing, sometimes producers don't know how it works=)
And half a year of life for Prince, that you have some sort of factory pattern,or self-assembled? For example, I just took automotive air conditioning=)
SUSUL1
what else with equal areas of dispersion?
it is possible for example to take some sort of Corsair with 2 120mm fans and about the same area of ISE Hamer with 2 independent radiators and 2 fans. square aluminum plate and blowing cooler are about the same. cooling efficiency of different long the reasons described above.
SUSUL1
it's a hell of thing, sometimes producers don't know how it works=)
Everything is easier than it seems.
Freeca homemade. All low-powered factory. The most powerful that I have seen -30 at 300V.
http://ru.gecid.com/news/amd_exascale_heterogeneous_processor/
People, do you think there's some bollocks to get to the consoles of the 6th generation?
SUSUL1
Firstly, I personally highly doubt this thing is even remotely designed for consoles, or in General any other device for toys.
Second, given the size brozovich cores, the performance would be minimal. Rather, they serve to support the GPU.
In General, the scheme is clearly not full, there were at least missing controller, memory and cache, without which all is in principle unable to work. Similarly, no connection between the CPU and GPU (I/O) that would be possible was given to understand in how they work.
And given the amount of memory, this is clearly not for toys.
SUSUL1
not quite clear what it is. maybe it's x86 compatible GPU accelerator such as this that Intel.
I do not think that this is some kind of Central processor. for him memory is not enough.
why discuss HS that AMD Zen will be released a year or 2 MB? http://www.overclockers.ru/hardnews/70080/sostoyalsya-debjut-processorov-intel-core-i7-6700k-i-core-i5-6600k-pokoleniya-skylake.html here is what is on the agenda,by the way there in the comments(with Breakfast, most likely)-hung has vidosy from YouTube and in games there's a new i5 out 4790к in runoff(
TT they already deleted the post(probably at the request of the holder)-all tests in 2D applications new CPU
although perhaps not http://www.overclockers.ru/lab/70075_3/obzor-i-testirovanie-processorov-intel-skylake-core-i7-6700k-i-i5-6600k.html
p.s. in my city ддр4 almost 2 times more expensive than DDR3,and even if the price they are approximately equal,then it is definitely a good processor,up to 10% increase in cpu(including 3D games,even new ай5 bypasses ай7 last generation),a bonus increase ддр4,the insertions better(for streaming might suffice in order not to load percents),eats less electricity and so on, a Great cpu to buy a computer from scratch,or just upgrade PERC+mother+memory(if the generation is ancient Sandakov)
W3aMisterWinner
Which increase easy, especially the fact that swinging games. Yes performance per core has grown significantly even more than 10%, but it will be noticeable in poorly optimized games like ARMA, dais, tanks and strategies. In all multithreaded games from the 2600k has not gone very far progress, and about ДДР4 generally silent on the same frequency makes zero difference
DozoRRR
Here's there video on YouTube was removed(probably TechnoCore)-and in the same gta5 STOCK i5 6600k won the RUNOFF 4790к,and you got out that 4770к(for 500MHz below the devil)is equal to 6700к(there is generally ай5 was)-so some of the test drive?
W3aMisterWinner
before they spend any money to discuss. and the main osobennostyu new processors seems to be how the L4 cache. but there will have to wait 2-4 years old when he starts to use the processor without it will smack one's lips
MunchkiN 616
Yes, the new processors of course the bomb,even brodel at lower frequencies in most games and applications shows fps more than the devil in the old games.
MunchkiN 616
L4 cache only Bradwell and that of the powerful of incorporation, by the way did not have to wait L4 already being used and it yields its fruit in games given that in brodwolf frequency less.
W3aMisterWinner
It's not techno-kitchen them to the level of tests even as far as China cancer.So then, there's plausible:
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