Esthetix
Well you are right, AMD just could not accommodate a full core on the existing areas. The whole concept of FX was aimed at the cheaper CPU, the elimination method was little used items. His calculation on the FPU problem, but the modules are crushed in a fair number of 2 streams. But here comes the problem described above... not got the necessary number of transistors=) Because not 0.5 but 0.7 from the classical core of the Star.
As for your 5960 do not confuse warm with soft=) It's not a mass product, and the processor for lubeley besides 3 years younger than the FX.
The SLAY of the 980, then after a year or two 8K monitors will move to the 13" format and 3х8к monitor will be the norm the same fans as you. And here is the memory issue will rise again in full growth=)
http://www.popmech.ru/gadgets/16502-4k-i-8k-displei-protiv-retina/
SUSUL1
When the question arises of lack of video memory , I very quickly solved by the change tive graphics cards won't even steamed. In these realities the chips themselves do not pull the amount of memory in 4K which are on the market, even sly 980 at 4K sometimes these drawdowns Bach that I want to laugh, 980ti too much not ruled by the problem max 2fps gives the surf at full load and 2 fps so just for shits and giggles . About will move, too, as I do not care , and that is for me personally for several reasons. 1 size, for me a minimum of 24 inches. 2. response 3 palette especially on the sides , 4 stub 60 fps., gertsovka min 75 OK OK at least the homeless option 60 . At this time, no sly no CROs even 4K does not give stable 60 fps in 1-2 games the rest of the drawdown. and not due to not grasp the memory but at the expense of bottom chips are just weak. so if there is 8K then you put it makes sense only when the VC will pull it. I personally already have got put 4K even when sly 780ti overclocking to 1400 under water mother of daraga was much suffering while the 980 has not appeared even though they corrected the situation and then 1540гц in runoff no better than the 780ti.
About CPU AMD to reduce the cost is blah blah blah ( because the main reduction is initially normal architecture with subsequent pilezh and reduce the process two years 5960 will be released in a new guise so bucks for 500 with the same architecture but with another of those processes that Is the purpose of cheapening and create something new AMD did originally as avrii we createdit homeless architecture and we will all be utvidet what potential do not want to use a ), they had the option to make the floor eperny i7 those years with roughly the same architecture but that is not meant to be. and it turned into a bulldozer approx. right Now they're supposedly working on Zen eeeee che new in it unlike 4790к yeah no shit just mnogovato will be defending without any HyperThreading with the possibility of disconnection and hence the question and I could not immediately add tranzistorov and blocks it so difficult especially when the technology in fact donated from Intel ? and it is not necessary here to say that supposedly its, Holy shit, even the lineup in the point to point with little changes. It is understandable to Intel not even feel sorry for her because of the money they already cut down plus back zadolbali if AMD will be bent from here and gift .
Have sat on AMD CPUs even when I was juice AM2 with 2 nuclear ATL x2 6000+ is a very good stone at the time was , but after it something went kakoeto g nesusvetnye , Yes there was a Hairdryer spectacle 6 in black series, not so human , only he didn't live long and the socket with the same chipset that was already sick , I moved to the Intel already do not even remember how the stone was called the 720 chtoli at first, even the difference is not noticed only warmed less. But that's when there was 2600к uuu what's the difference went especially with overclocking and AMD went even steeper slag in the slag again through the slag. Especially all the dumb looks for 2017 .
About the 5960 I have not compared and cited the example of how to do percent and sell them with the name of the 8 cores and not to push but 4 core with 8 threads and 5960 Zhi vigorous 16 percent turns, stupid and ashamed for a massive company like AMD but back not as the mass of all the shit ate and now just saving up money to finally justnot with AMD.
Esthetix
About Xena a lot of rumors, some claim it to be a return to the honest cores, others say that it will be a continuation of the FX but with the conclusion of the FPU and cores to a new level
Others are heresy, what it is all ARM processor will be.
And Yes, instead do kosher Dryer 3 on 32nm... suffered them in multithreading (and because synthetics really tore competitors), as shown by prisni rushed for 5 years
Well, Intel immediately relaxed and turned on the milking machine...
SUSUL1
Yeah the machine is an understatement I would say staricase with such a huge bolt.
the problem of PFS in the sa long Converter numbers at low bandwidth cache.
maybe if he would have L1 and L2 on each core, it would run faster.
and FKH did not faster than the Intel on stream with equal frequency. the performance of Intel again determined against the same performance its cache. FKH faster only in truly parallel tasks (however, see its bandwidth integrated memory controller) and withered not using any instructions in the power of chastity. the same pattern is observed in the server segment.
from AMD it would be current interesting decision if they rolled out a server processors with greater frequency and in a special socket on the civilian market high-speed pitches so it created a competition of LGA 2011.
Zen I think is a bunch and God forbid a competitor 3ххх-4ххх и7мам on 1150 while Intel will roll out 8 nuclear stones kesom L4
MunchkiN 616
Intel can roll with and the fifth cache, but if the programmers do not learn it, the sense from it will not be more than megapolice AMD,
After all, they did not put the task in monopolare to circumvent Intel, but in a pair of dual core FX 40 bypassed the core Phenoma and 10-20% of a single core Intel.
SUSUL1
As a result of using the configuration of the two GPU data is essentially duplicated, dividing the effective capacity in half. For example, the GeForce GTX 690 with 4 GB behaves as two cards of 2 GB in SLI. Moreover, when you are adding a second card in CrossFire configuration or SLI, the memory array is not doubled. Each card reserves only a memory.
helio
You tell DX12 developers, which announced the possibility of adding the performance cards of different generation and manufacturer, virtually eliminating SLI and Crofer
Zen I think is a bunch and God forbid a competitor 3ххх-4ххх и7мам on 1150 while Intel will roll out 8 nuclear stones kesom L4
Well, if Zen will be a competitor to i7 3 to 4 and therefore 6 series(skilak almost no better havela)-it will be epic wines,at a price lower than the competitor.Still I wonder whether there a full 8 cores 16 threads, or this dream XS(not yet known.The only fail-they,they go out now would be good.Intel is going to release 8 cores to the masses?I don't think it will in the foreseeable future,and let 5960х tucked himself in the ass,which a)is unreasonably expensive and b)never claimed in the home segment,and all would be nothing if not for the point a)
W3aMisterWinner
even if there is a Renaissance and a rematch with finamom 2 Intel you could put a couple of years ago and forget. so go to it will require holders of PFS and i5.
and at the start of sales, the difference between the prices of the stones was not so great. those that tops that FKH феном2 was very expensive. and advantage between the past generation Intel controversial.
currently, the difference between the top i7 and 3ххх 6ххх already very significant so to speak and the line 6ххх probably never finished.
so personally, I see a new SPU from AMD in a very pessimistic. and to build a serious game of pitch has long put the bolt on the red processors.
currently, the difference between the top i7 and 3ххх 6ххх already very significant so to speak and the line 6ххх probably never finished.
nah,the difference is small.On overah said that skilak 4.5=4.8 Haswell,well and also with the ivik about a bunch of stuff difference.
helio
Which games will see multigpu?
The first went!
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9740/directx-12-geforce-plus-radeon-mgpu-preview/4
Guys, please stop offtopic about multi-GPU. Is this for your forums and a certain theme.
Wow,the news of Zen recently read info,4-6-8 cores will be,and given the technology is similar antalovsky HT-16 threads,who thinks how many such processors will cost?AMD is positioning the competitiveness of all Intel models,including 5960х
W3aMisterWinner
Yes, it's no longer a secret.
Will cost exactly like the Internet minus a few percent less promoted brand.
By the time Zen is released Intel already 16 nuclear model will roll out at 32 threads for 1500$ and again her will to FAP and to say that AMD has nothing to counter the flagship.
SUSUL1
Ie do you think,AMD is unable to sell a competitive product at lower prices(up to 1.5-2 times)? and how vishera 8 core - which right now became a very good,but cheap?XS personally,I hope that 6 nuclear Zen which is more powerful than any desktop i7 can be bought for the price of the same i7(~350$),and 8 nuclear Zen level 5960х for 500-600$. And as a bonus-all of the magic will be without thermojacket and with good overclocking hence)
and to say that AMD has nothing to counter the flagship.
everything is 0.1% of bakers who have 5960х?even darthmaul this is not,though the rich Pinocchio...the Rich are also not stupid,know how to count money(otherwise the rich would not).If 5820к/5930k pulls for every need-why pay$ 500 for the extra 2 cores and show-off?
W3aMisterWinner
Yes ,I believe that marketers just don't allow this, especially at the start of sales. Vishera also available for the third year in the old process. They put the price tag for them, as at the start of the sales figure they sold it to you.
Plus ,for many, the show-off more money=) After all, the same people are willing to pay a little more for a new Intel.
Especially for reviewers who take the product for free and sometimes even get a suitcase of money for the right reviews
SUSUL1
Intel, though rowing grandmother,but they had no competitors.And AMD I remember the Greyhound was the first time bulls were sold at the start of sales between i5 and i7(In Astrakhan was exactly that price),Vishera at the start too, not was cheap,and 9370 9570 generally at the start thrashed almost 1K Baku...Actually have to wait for Zen,to watch the tests-the price tag,it is possible to wait for 2 stepping to wait for falling prices and go MB on the AMD 8core with ддр4), then forget about upgrading the CPU and RAM MP since 10 years))))One figure i7 is not enough as a complete powerful 8 cores,4 cores is 4 cores,especially with the thermal paste and the inability to even come close to 5GHz on postoyanku