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Protocol10 16.03.20 12:57 pm

Childfree or life without children. Your opinion? v.2

Continue the cultural conversation about the childfree. Start here http://forums.playground.ru/talk/chajldfri_ili_zhizn_bez_detej_vashe_mnenie-920743/
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Spirin Evgeniy 16.03.20

children are not evil,education major

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A.Soldier of Light 16.03.20

Devil208 wrote:
People who have plenty of time for fun - who are these people? Or have already achieved a lot of successful millionaires, or people with no goals. I have a few goals, and they will not have time for empty entertainment.
Some people do not need some goals whose attainment requires years, for example. They just live for today and not worried about themselves and all that. It seems not a problem if they benefit society and the benefit you bring and not having kids / creating family. The options are the same.

Devil208 wrote:
The point is to find a favorite thing and to earn it.
This is when I like my job and earning enough. If you did, then you're fine. Not good but rather super, but here you know better )

Ventura_Van wrote:
The point is to find a favorite thing and to earn it. Or several Affairs, and all to benefit.
his favorite thing to prostitute turn, it all boils down to finances and material prosperity. the meaning of your favorite things in the internal satisfaction, and other secondary.
Yes, he just made the upgrade, and his hobby started to generate income. He likes it, so what could be the problem? He in sense 8) You're projecting it yourself approach, hence the criticism, the use of which is not. It is normal to argue here about, obviously.

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There is no your truth, truth / truth is one. This is the reality and results of your actions.
The phrase my / your truth is just a play on words, don't need it )

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ZLOBNYY IGROK 16.03.20

Let having a baby and raising someone else.

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iz0tope 16.03.20

Yeah.... Children are generators of screaming and excrement. If it were possible after birth to put them in some kind of capsule, they could quickly grow to brains everything was in order. And that they had no desire to buy l-pregnant or to-buy bwaaaa. Ugh!
The child must be a warrior. With the bristles. And face as Leonidas.
At the expense of girls - may be copied under Lara Croft. She already won many times the world was saved.

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Devil208 16.03.20

The Warrior Of Light
By truth I mean the ideals, values. All they own, so its true)

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Stalingrad88 16.03.20

Now, if your parents thought the same then you would not exist. In fact, to live for yourself is selfishness. With age, everything changes. Every moral has to reach families and children.

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Wing42 16.03.20

Stalingrad88 wrote:
Now, if your parents thought the same then you would not exist.
Maybe in this case they would become rich and spend time on yourself. And I wouldn't blame them in this. In General, to condemn an unborn child to life in Russia - too harsh a punishment for him and for parents.

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A.Soldier of Light 16.03.20

Devil208 wrote:
By truth I mean the ideals, values. All they own, so its true)
Well if so, then Yes ) But in this case I found something to add. Ideals and values not only each individual to their own, there are social ideals, values, and traditions. And prohibitions, or the denial, denial superfluous. For example, for the Slavs typical denial was (and is!) the homosexual phenomenon. For Muslims, the more and much tougher. That was and will be.

Stalingrad88 wrote:
Every moral has to reach families and children.
I agree. And not only so. When people came morally to this question, it needs (to society) to do one more thing: get right to the birth /upbringing. Well, I have introduced the relevant laws/amendments ) Not everyone can properly educate children, the reality proves it every day in different parts of the world.

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Stalingrad88 16.03.20

Wing42
But I'm grateful to parents that they gave me life. Children do not affect your wealth. You just have to man up and work.
And what is bad in Russia?! I live in the boonies, Yes, of course there are problems. But the bread and butter, you can always make money. THE MAIN THING TO SPIN. Why did you decide that somewhere in another country will be easier?!
To live for myself at some point get bored. We created to find a mate and create offspring.

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Stalingrad88 16.03.20

A. Soldier of Light
Agree to create a family and have kids need a material base. Although after the great Patriotic war was a very bad situation. But people bred.

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A.Soldier of Light 16.03.20

Stalingrad88 wrote:
Although after the great Patriotic war was a very bad situation. But people bred
Socialism was. Not that it matters, in the end, will still give birth in any case. War is force majeure.

Stalingrad88 wrote:
Children do not affect your wealth.
Some believe children are the main wealth of the family. Different point of view ^_^

Stalingrad88 wrote:
And what is bad in Russia?! I live in the boonies, Yes, of course there are problems. But the bread and butter, you can always make money. THE MAIN THING TO SPIN.
In principle, you yourself answered your own question ) the Bad thing is that you need to survive. In a normal society (how society should be) members of the society provided shelter and all vital to working, not thinking about if you have enough money for food or to the next paycheck. That is, do not hammer head with this question, but to live and enjoy life, having the opportunity every year without losing out on the family budget to travel to distant lands (resort vacation). With all of this in Russia are serious problems for millions of people. That's bad.
No, of course the same applies to most countries in the world. But talking about Russia. That is the fact that in other countries is just as bad, no reason not to change anything at home.

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Stalingrad88 16.03.20

The main problem, most of our nation sits and waits, that someone has to do it for them. Putin is not my fault that your boss oppressing you or not pay.
I absolutely do not care about politics. I know that the legs feed the wolf. Our life is a struggle with ourselves every day. Millions of people are to blame for not being able to provide for themselves.

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Last_Soldier 16.03.20

Stalingrad88
Putin is not my fault that your boss oppressing you or not pay. Rossiyushke no one ever is to blame, head fuck another boss and so on.

The main problem, most of our nation sits and waits, that someone has to do it for them ie you as Medvedev , who believes that those who want to earn must go into the business like that ?
Let me ask what you earn your bread and butter ?

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A.Soldier of Light 16.03.20

Stalingrad88 wrote:
The main problem, most of our nation sits and waits, that someone has to do it for them.
The consequences of the Soviet period of Russian history. In those days the government did everything, the initiative was strictly limited (it is now limited, but not as much as before).

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MelShlemming 16.03.20

Condoms need to wear, and no problems in children will not.

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Stalingrad88 16.03.20

Last_Soldier
At the moment, the head of sales construction and industrial equipment in a large firm. Before five years after graduation worked as a lawyer in the arbitration law. Since money not enough yet and the Manager was working part-time. As it was necessary to close a loan for an apartment and a car
There is a banal phrase: one is looking and the other looking for the cause.
Even though his subordinates, I wonder how many lazy people. A man came and he wants to get 50 kasara and no strain. Well it does not happen, it turns out that some receive 18 thousand and 70 thousand other ones as Well, will not look ever engaged in the solution of minor problems and sitting in the social. networks and other work responsibly and progressing.

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Wing42 16.03.20

Stalingrad88 wrote:
...it was necessary to close a loan for an apartment and a car
Hmm, but isn't higher education a person has... But, if you think education is not yet a sign of the presence of mind.

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Last_Soldier 16.03.20

Stalingrad88
You just settled , and now believe that all should, I am lazy , typical from rags to riches.Either you're someone's protégé/son/ to pull/podliznul , you are there all cards will be opened , exposing themselves in the best light.

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A.Soldier of Light 16.03.20

Wing42 wrote:
Although, if you think education is not yet a sign of the presence of mind.
True ) I Personally saw a similar example when the person with the two highest, there was not very clever, although the very existence of a crust as it involves the mind, common sense.
To tower is not difficult, really, just not all hunting to bathe (too lazy) or already have a job with a good salary. Know examples when people learned on a certain specialty in the University was never begun work in this area and went to another, because there are relations SN above in any...

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requiemmm 16.03.20

head of sales construction and industrial equipment in a large firm On, thug with bumagodelatelnaja post. Come to teach life and complaining about lazy slaves. Who hooked you up then? And as the paw was given? And that, in such a position, you can spit at the ceiling, well it's not in the mine for 12 hours or machine oil dust to breathe when in the end of the shift, I spit tar. Heroes of cutting and*business.
Estimate, in addition to thieves, like you, there are laborers who will never get normal money, at least 14 hours a day Pasha. Those hard workers who produce what you resell for five ends by Brazilian Asses in comfortable offices. I guess they are more stupid than you? Not at all, just for them, no one zabashlyat and warm place drove not free then.