Graphics card with factory overclocked (Fallout 4)
In some games (Fallout 4, the Witcher 3, etc.) the developers (as I understand) is not recommended to use video cards with factory overclocking, and if it is, then disable it. What can be the reason ?I think the video card acceleration is more powerful and is able to provide better graphics.
Lisstoman wrote:
Because some curves game engines just can't handle overclocking(3,4 fallout, WoT,AW,wolfenstein the new order).Even if you are on 10 MHz will raise the core frequency, then they immediately crachat driver or DirectX issue an error. And these engines do not care what video card is stable at much higher frequencies without the artifacts and glitches
Fallout 4 works great on my overclocked card ( +100 MHz ). New order now is not installed, launched the Old blood - is without problems.
BlackTigerTK
1. About the driver: I was looking at the NVIDIA website. Yes, written on the 8th of March. Don't believe it. I'd rather wait.
2. About problems that are blamed on the overclocking: Yes, it may be due to a weak PSU.
3. About fan control: my principle - the simpler the more reliable. But is not working.
4. About sverrisson with limit FPS=45 Hz, the driver does not crash: Yes, the load on the graphics card less confirmed by the measurements.
5. About sverrishola to 1160 MHz compared to the plant.overclocking 1006 MHz: as shown by my measurements, the load on the graphics card is even smaller than on 1006 MHz (with the same graphics settings and set the FPS). The main thing is to withstand the temperature, so as not krasilka driver. Currently set FPS=40 (in Bandicam)
- advanced.the fan is turned on full.
- at 40 temperature.gradually goes down to 72*
- at 45 temperature.gradually comes to 82*(max)
at 30 noticeable jerking when driving.
6. About curves of engines according to Lisstoman: Yes, I think part of it is right in the sense of curvature engines, but if you take comprehensive, then the reasons are many and different:
- poor optimization - curvature. Hence, the system requirements are too high (as an example: simplified programming of the engine, which led to long download locations. This is not my opinion, and comments of competent programmers).
- inadequate graphics settings in the game gamers, the mismatched hardware of the computer.
- unmanaged FPS in the game (within 20-60 Hz) with included vertical. sync 60 Hz. Can handle only a very powerful video card. With less power (as I have a GTX 780 Ti) it is necessary to make the FPS manageable and to limit external prog. Or (with FPS=60) to reduce the graphic settings from high to medium. All this for stocks simplification of the engine.
vftor
factory overclocking and homemade two big differences!
let's start with the fact that the manufacturer would like subscribes to guarantee his display clock frequency(and this can safely dub the default settings)
Homemade same overclocking will void all warranties and that there is a complaint, I recommend to return to the base.
zhekazloy
1. This is just factory overclocking. I'm not clocked.
2. Why return the frequency to baseline, if dispersed more productive ?
3. I tried to reduce the frequency (does not change game settings), but then increases with temperature, reaching the critical. Conclusion - when reducing frequency reduces performance, and at the same graphical load, as a consequence, the temperature increases.
bullshit, factory overclocking only affects performance, but the driver crash can happen for many reasons besides overclocking and overclock it at the factory and that the card it has and if it fails it, it is the problem card. Moreover, all vidyahu is trottling
Steve Taller
The driver crash happens when exceeding the critical temperature, which depends (under normal cooling) load. The load also includes the level of graphic optimizations + level of graphics settings + frame rate (FPS). At a frame rate of 60 Hz and a high (sometimes ultra) settings + work on 2 monitors (1920x1080 and 1280x1024), the graphics card (overclocked) showed the temperature to 75*.
With the addition of many mods (not very good), graphical optimization of the game deteriorated, and therefore, the load is increased and the temperature began to increase. To reduce the temperature, without compromising the schedule, I reduced the frame rate. At the moment, = 40 Hz. Temperature=72*. That's the story with this game.
vftor
once again I explain, the crash driver can be a pure software problem and to be connected with other software I have used crisis 3 has stopped running with the crash bugs direct 3д11 and crash the driver, moving Windows with all software solved the problem with the unchanged iron, he is the driver curve, some went. And your driver don't give a fuck what your vidyahi temperature, unless you have the symptom dump of the chip, and it is not driver problem, but a problem with your hardware. All widjaja normal there was throttling, when the temperature increases it works, and ned the map to overheat blah. Play Talos principal on the engine Sam 3. There the game just looks amazing, such clarity of textures rarely where you will meet, and at DH11 there is awesome lighting, percent of this game is not loading, but if you set everything on high and antialiasing is also my two ГТХ780 key GHz edition will ship at 98% while their temperature easily reaches 80 degrees at the upper 73 and lower, upper is trottling with 1176мгц to 1050мгц, fps from 40 to 60 in 1080p and memory kavetsa order 3030мб. The driver is not crashes. So the acceleration here not and. If you have all the time crash the driver, it doesn't help rearrange the axes with the software and the driver update does nothing, so it is in the gland and the card comes slowly kabzda
Steve Taller
Maybe you're right. In Fallout 4 I had no crash of the driver. On account of the crash I came to the conclusion for the game the Witcher 3. There when I started playing, after 5 minutes the temperature rose to 82*, and crash the driver, with posleduyushim recovery. Then I set the game FPS=30 and the temperature became normal. Played.
vftor
I have a bagel warms the top video card in General at 86 degrees, the chip of NVIDIA characteristics allowable temperature of 95 degrees, i.e. supply of small, well, and was throttling up to 1019 MHz, the flight was not. Witch 3 generally strongly my vidyahi not ship, but fps no smoothing is kept in 1080p about 45. What's your video card? and I something do not understand. This temperature is crazy to not be, I have a strong heating due to the sly, lower heated and the whole Chad from her goes up and tightened the top, one by one they strongly are not heated even when fully loaded
Steve Taller
You see my comments do not read.
Palit GF-GTX780Ti - plant.overclocking the GPU to 1006 MHz (bus 384 bit, memory 3,072 GB).
Monitors 1920x1080, DVI-D + 1280x1024
Some discrepancies with max. temperature: 82 toli toli 95
- there feature: basic 780Ti - core frequency=875 MHz, my (from the plant. acceleration) - feature (writing)=1006 MHz, and I'm reading max=1160 MHz
vftor
I also have the frequency should be 1071, but afterburner shows 1176, I put in the settings of firewood force in-sink and in games in settings cut off to avoid tearing. Try to unplug the second monitor, what for them two even more different? The maximum temperature of the chip you also 95, and after 80 trolling there? By the way what percent and how the Witcher 3 is at max in 1080p?
Steve Taller
1. I 2nd monitor is absolutely necessary.
2. When raising the temperature to 82*, I disconnect and deal with the cause. So not looking about trolling, but above 1160 MHz rises.
3. Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V PRO GEN3 Intel Core i7-2600K (3.5 GHz); RAM 16 GB; Disk - SSD; System - Windows 7 x64
4. With this the Witcher 3 immediately had problems (viruses, Meyer) - resolved. Then crash the driver. Put 30 Hz. Graphics settings - textures, details, range on high, rest on medium. The result is a download of the GPU = 35%, memory used = 1097 MB, the temperature after 20 minutes was increased from 50 to 59 and stabilized.
vftor
I mean,you just limit the framerate in the game and think that graphics card and its driver settings no longer work!?!? Video card continues to work at maximum!!!!!! and frame rate just doesn't exceed the max in the settings,and to process the data it continues!!! As specified certain graphics settings and limiting fps is the upper frame for display on the monitor)
vftor
As I read more,then you have a lot of problems))
1. Support for Windows 7 x64 stopped on 13 January 2015,i.e. the developers of the new games focus on Windows 10 and DirectX 12,this can cause conflicts in the drivers.
2.About driver. You already look outdated,as there are already 9XX generation of graphics cards,and it is a priority(to buy better) and the new drivers improve the working of the new graphics cards in new games,not old viduḥ(and who is really necessary,because if the old works fine,why buy new?) And there is a joke in the drivers,first release a Beta version of the drivers,and only then after analyzing the errors and correcting them release the final version. And the jump from the office.the specified insertion driver changes.And downloading newer drivers can only bring problems.
3.You have 2! monitor with different resolution! And a graphics card simultaneously processes the image to 2 monitors with different resolutions! (try it together with one hand to draw a circle,and another triangle))and therefore increases the load on viduh,and overheating.And if you have the game displayed on one monitor,and the other something else,the view handles them BOTH!! in a single moment.
4.If factory overclocked(and without overclocking) the manufacturer gives a guarantee in the amount of duration of guaranteed work,and that beyond not their problem,and the faster it will burn,the faster you'll buy new) Is as follows capitalism))And even more so self-made that factory overclocking is done by increasing the frequency of the video card(memory and GPU),over frequencies laid out in the design of the original,which affects the temperature.The only difference is that when factory overclocked,the cooling is powerful.
5.Well, as written,limiting fps is the upper frame of the display frames,the only difference is that the video card processes each frame is not the possible maximum,and, depending on the load in this frame,and loose power it spends on processing the next frame.And this function is required to increase the smoothness of the game,as cease to be fluctuations in fps depending on what is happening on the screen(changing lighting, landscape,buildings, etc., etc.)
6.You can still try the driver settings in the PhysX tab to change the handling physics with viduh on the processor,to transfer part of the load.
usa55059
1.Limit framerate - no, not as you think. Bandicam is the only program (among these) which limits the frame rate is not in the game, and restricts the frame rate of the signal coming from the game on the graphics card. Due to this feature, see the following effects:
- limiting the frame rate in game mode vision images, and in download mode locations, when no image frame rate of the game is not limited and reaches the highest possible to 2000-3000 (measured), which speeds up any download several times.
- because of limited frame rate of the signal on the graphics card, it is naturally limited to the frame rate of the signal coming to the monitor.
- because of limited frame rate of the signal on the video card, it reduces the load on the graphics card, and therefore the temperature.
2. About 2 monitors - I agree, the additional workload, but necessary. I actually have 4 computers and 2 switches for monitors and computers. It is convenient.
3. About vidyuhi - normal vidyuha for normal (optimized) games. And these shoddy games that are selling, I wouldn't run even on very powerful computer.
4. About Windows I do not see the need to use Win.10. I use XP and 7 with the corresponding computer (4) depending on the programs (starting with DOS) and games.
You have something not correctly written,or I have do not go skiing. What limits the frame rate signal from the game? Why these signals are coming from games at viduh?And here the download of the locations and the graphics card?
usa55059
Why are you being so difficult ? The game displays the information (signal) on the video card and the video card to the monitor. If you limit the frame rate in the game settings or any of the prog, the limited frame rate of the chain to monitor. If you do not limit the frame rate in the game, but the limit between game and video card (on the input video - Bandicam), and exhibit all the effects, about which I wrote.
vftor
You're hard!? If you think of!)( or rather simple) Signal from the game comes first to the CPU then to the GPU,and then the processed data transferred to the monitor. Program Bandicam, like Fraps and other programs for video capture,inject its files into the video driver to capture the image and affect the relationshipgames-card I can't,and to limit FPS by simply the throttle.In download mode game, when the main load on the hard drive,since loading textures is of game data(data about the image,the rest is loaded on the RAM) using the processor on the graphics card(video card is only responsible for processing what is happening on the screen) The more your original question was in some games (Fallout 4, the Witcher 3, etc.) the developers (as I understand) is not recommended to use video cards with factory overclocking, and if it is, then disable it. What can be the reason ?
I think the video card acceleration is more powerful and is able to provide better graphics. No,video card with acceleration provides slightly more better FPS,and all.Crashes drivers most often occurs because of the incomprehensible programs which interfere with the normal operation of the driver and left the mod(in the case of the game). About the temperature. Temperature affects a lot. As you said what About 2 monitors - I agree, the additional workload, but necessary. I actually have 4 computers and 2 switches for monitors and computers. It is comfortable. Means that they are next(at least in one room),so they raise the temperature in the room(I'm old gtx460se+ the rest of the system unit+heating lived with an open door to the balcony in summer and winter(Ulyanovsk for viewing temperatures)) and I have tepmerature not raised it above 56 degrees. And considering 4 of the system unit,and close,so the warm air circulating in the room soon warmed up,and thereby raising the temperature of other components sistemnika. Especially with a running prog to capture video(and especially in the recording mode,and which figure you need it) and 2 monitors,course load viduh,especially not the coldest maximum generation 7xx. And the question is: How do you arrange the cooling(if possible in detail)(Sorry for the long answer.Work is crazy,life and all at once))
usa55059
1. You are right to argue that the signal of the first game obrabatyvatsya processor and then fed to the graphics card. But there is one feature. When I tried limiting the FPS (turning off vertical. sync.in the game), then I found out that the program EVGA Precision and MSI Afterburner to limit the framerate of the output video card (or, as you say, inject its files into the video driver to capture the image), and the program Bandicam limits the frame rate of the input video (rendering). And now with this app there are all polozitelnye effects. If you don't believe me, check for yourself practically, and try to explain.
2. About the temperature. You are correct to say Crashes, drivers most often occurs due to unclear programs which interfere with the normal operation of the driver and left the mod. So great app is the game itself (Witcher 3, Fallout 4 and the like), which, due to their repulsive optimization is getting strange for CPU and graphics card. The non-optimized processing of such information creates a wild load, resulting in temperature rises or crashes the driver or game crashes. And these games, in recent years, becoming more and more. As can be seen in the brains of developers neoptimizirovannost.
And what about cooling computers with this I'm fine. The computers are open, there are optional fans for temperature monitor, dust is systematically removed, and in General often works only one computer.
vftor
the thermal capacity of your graphics card 250W - not surprisingly where such temperatures))))