The main character? (SPOILER ALERT) (Fallout 4)

Halagaz
You rested in his small saucepan and don't want to look wider.

1) Your solution ostrich, stick your head in the sand and think that there is no problem. And they are the solution, sooner or later have to accept, you cannot stop time as you in the game. You can certainly say that there is no good solution, but in real life, often have the opportunity to take the perfect decision? Usually you have to choose from bad and very bad and usually the selection is not very large. In this sense, the foul is poorly simulates real life

The idealistic option is Minitab, to destroy the BS and Institute to go to live in the cave and wait a bit, when the Commonwealth come a stranger Institute, which of course will be better, fairer and kinder. Wait I have not long.

2) On the island of all you can fix, to go to tell people and heal them fun and happy.
(a Cinta Dima killed figuratively, he rubbed her personality and replaced at the captain's adjusted, not so aggressive, perhaps controlled and he did it not for the safety of synths)

Guys first I want to say that I like foul more than you do and I do not in any case do not want to destroy your faith in him. But let's also take into account the fact that besezda bad job on the dialogues and scenes in General. And this all hints at the fact that Dima GG Sint it's just not completion of the story or the alleged philosophical thought, not instill we synths. And now the answer to the question whether Sint GG? I believe that there is because in the scene where Kellog kidnaps Sean shows that not only he survived after thawing, but his wife, who was shot Kellog in the process of kidnapping and Kellog GG says that the fallback, which means that if the DNA of Sean will not suffice as a sample of pre-war human he will be back for GG. From this we can conclude that the GG people.

Halagaz wrote:
so you admit the idea that Sean elder is slightly out of your mind, and created a synth which simulates its parent. For what?
No. I wrote about the fact Sean has created a synthetic copy of yourself as a child to lure his father to the Institute and to get rid of Kellogg, which is almost impossible to control, in the hope that his own blood will make a new field agent - more loyal. Synths are third generation, while not perfect - to function normally on the surface are only those who sewn a complete person, and it is very time-consuming process. So getting rid of the GG - a matter of time.
I also talked about the fact that methods of identification Cinta from Stoic - not worth a penny ruptured, and the question of Dima about the origin of the synthetic HS - no more than another reference to the book do androids Dream elektroauto?, where you inspired by when creating the game and stuffed the game with all sorts of Easter eggs from this work.
Stoic
So sorry, College is not going to help anyone on the surface - his goal is a perfect, closed system for scientists, and people on the surface just a source of resources. This is described in the terminal: rejected the proposal of one of the scientists to help protect the residents with the help of synths, after the experiment with seeds will be destroyed by the family living on the farm, to the results of the experiments have not got others, cut the settlement to search for technology, etc. So that mintMenu, gained strength, are the most the best way for the Commonwealth: acting as the protection of settlements and caravans - they will be the basis of the new state.

people are well know what College, even though this is not mentioned.
Well, it's unlikely if they don't know what is baseball and this America is. ))
By the way, about baseball and tells them GG, another allusion to the fact that he remembers the past. )

Actually funny. The second passage I decided to play with ZHGG and for the Institute. Played for the Institute as long as Sonny is not planted as a kebab on a sword of Drawn on the roof of the ruins of the Institute, after my dear son said that he his mother out of the freezer and pulled out a current in an experiment ( just to see for shits and giggles) to see how quickly it will be bent. So either GG really Sint , or Sonny is still the dick. Well, for the Institute completely lost the desire to play. Homeless Minutemen forever )))

Stoic
General considerations:
Any discussion of the uneasy, imperfect choice of cover from himself the fact ordinary betrayal:
What synths are INITIALLY trying to destroy the settlements and people (not even discussing other lovely particular of the Institute), which protects the HS - priori separates him and the Institute on different sides of the barricades, and go to his side - a clear act of betrayal arising simply from the definition of the concept =)))

lokkie
You argue as if after a nuclear explosion civilization was wiped off the face of the Earth together with all life and its history, and out of nowhere there is a new...the world of Fallout still go ghouls that lived before the nuclear attack. The whole story saved, people know what happened before, what is now. Maybe there is somewhere local ignorance in some aspects of past life (such as baseball), but that doesn't mean that somewhere in another place in the Commonwealth about these aspects do not know. The Institute also has far greater knowledge than ordinary working people, it is not surprising if all this knowledge they were able to invest in Sinta GG that he was sure that he was a real person from the past.

Stoic
We already went through this. And I tell thee again:
1. Humanity to survive, by and large, you need 3 things - security, food and water.
2. DS is in school and even some biolaboratory where two girls are engaged in scientific activity and hydroponics. Themselves, without Institute or BS. There are ghouls - those who survived the war, they have the pre-war education and knowledge which in theory they can share with another generation. And your *live in caves* - again, one water and hearsay - and I asked for arguments in favor of his release. However, all things being equal the weakest faction - poor homeless Minuteman and cut out the BS and Institute.
No BS, no institution - not going to help someone on the surface. Ordinary settlers, I mean.
In the case of BS - they strained with the food, but to negotiate with the farmers not in their rules - the decision for the HS how to get supplies, and about
this is clearly stated. However, the human resources they take into their ranks.
In the case of the Institute there is a lot of schools that have already listed many times and I and others in this top. And about the murder, and about the destruction of the University.
What Dima is different from the Institute in terms of replacing the mayor? Yes, nothing.
Your settlement cut *your* same synths. Synths are attacking your buyer.And you yourself are an errand boy of the staff of the Institute. You're a great Director, and most importantly there's a team, Yes, but in their fantasies.

Arguments I have not seen.

Stoic wrote:
when the Commonwealth come a stranger Institute, which of course will be better, fairer and kinder. Wait I have not long.
This suggests that a series of fallout you don't know. At all.

Russian Bear wrote:
And I agree with you in most of your conclusions. We are 95% the same.

MadHamsterHead
pfft, well, if you are not convinced, nor memories of Kellogg, nor the conversation with the doctor BS, no story about baseball, OK, here's another fact - the Ship on the roof, where the hero of the scan say that he is a citizen of the United States rights are the profession that. Also not?

By the way, very interesting, against the theory of GG Sinta says the man that collected the data for that tech.
In Gol you can find and he knows the heads of the hero and the hero learns it! Where Sint can remember looked like this fellow WOL-tech? Nowhere. If it was just implanted memories, points of intersection and their reality would not be.

Halagaz
The body could be reconstructed in conformity with frosted original, down to fingerprints and retinal scan would not show a difference.. )
Dragon2055
Perhaps the story of the meeting with Gol, HS, from the perspective of the Gol, was completely different. Of records could restore all the contacts HS before the explosion, including their clothes, on photos. Maybe it's standard yellow raincoat and hat to representatives of Valt-tech

Calapsar
Yes Yes, except for the memories of the seller of vol tech. Knowledge of the rules of baseball ( for example you know them?), memories mixer about drunk College students. And of course the memories of Kellogg Well enough to carry the stuff. Here's another man explains agree with him 100%
Dragon2055 wrote:
by the way, very interesting against the theory of GG Sinta says the man that collected the data for that tech.
In Gol you can find and he knows the heads of the hero and the hero learns it! Where Sint can remember looked like this fellow WOL-tech? Nowhere. If it was just implanted memories, points of intersection and their reality would not be.
Even this girl that we were looking for - not a synth!

Calapsar
And still unlikely. Too complicated scheme with unclear objectives. Institute at all desire could not know exactly what this fellow who lived nearby, survived to the present day and lives in a good neighborhood, and that he made contact with the GG. And as noted above, too many different things pointing to the fact that he's not a synth. but in favor of what he Sint almost nothing.
That's think about why his Father to invest untold resources in the creation of uncontrolled military units superior hunters, and release it into the wild? Why not make it easier and not to let the HS directly in the Institute and not immediately to arrange family reunion?
He is a scientist, therefore must be rational. What would he headed the Institute? come on, with the same success it is easier to educate Cinta-yourself (little Shawn) as a future replacement.

Stoic
In add-on did not play, was the basis, and the more the game is not included....
But after reading the version of the author of this theme, that GG Sint - some gaps in the storyline, for me, clarified )

For example:
1. The same corpse of the second half...(and maybe was 60 years old?)
2. Kellog haven't aged a day in 60 years (though perhaps this point in the game I missed, and maybe it's a synth, or something like that)
3. Shawn did not do that, in order to save his parents from the asylum, where the left only one capsule.
4. Synths are attacking GG.

This is just a guess, but the topic led me to think that HS is really Sint (Sint some of the new generation) and the moment when we see the abduction of a child, may be just load it in a capsule, so Kellog and did not shoot. And after download GG, capsule, observe the scene, after the freeze is enabled. It took some amount of time (an hour, two, three, or day ...), turn on the defrost process, after which the employees can quickly get out of the asylum. And then everything happening with GG is his test. And Sean himself in conversations confirms that he was always abreast of what is happening with GG, and that he wanted to see how he cope in the wasteland....
As it turns out.

But really it's all nonsense )) and of gaps in the story can, perhaps, something to dream no more ))

Halagaz
Once again, if baseball don't know in diamond city, it does not mean that in other places of the Commonwealth about it as no one knows, the more it will know about the Institute (not cowboys after all). College the same thing, and zero reaction at physical examination confirms that the College is known, otherwise the doctor asked me to explain what this College.
How do you scan on the ship? DNA looks? in any case, GG Sint will match the original.

The Institute has extensive information about almost everything that was and is in the Commonwealth, he would know what kind of employee vault-TEC came on the day of a nuclear attack in the home of the original HS, and then to simulate an exemplary situation in memory of GG - synth, including the appearance of the employee. So they get to know each other.
(To repeat again? and then I see 3 times to people do not get it).

We don't know the main goal to create a synth based on the original Sean's father, may be another experiment to see how Sint, convinced that he is a man from the past will behave, how far he'll go, maybe some other stupid crap. We only affirm that he could be a synth. Moreover, there are hints. And with 100% certainty to say that he is a man, you can't.

It is not necessary to close the holes in the plot outlandish assumptions, to think that outright trash actually has a hidden meaning and obscure the developers are geniuses. To remind you about Mass Effect 3?

Everything is boring, stupid, sad. The story is just there. We rolled the mixture of minecraft and editor from Skyrim - as there are in this game.

MadHamsterHead
date Cho? 0_o please tell me you're not from the Ukraine, no?
In other areas the Commonwealth about baseball do not know and there is no mention about it if that.
The Institute closed cyclically community, and the only thing needed is the energy for which fights and BS.
Such a theory is the delirium of a sick brain.

Halagaz
XS and here in Ukraine....there's some female logic its campaign

what makes you think you don't know?)) we're just in the story stumble upon a certain Gaga seller who has the wrong idea about baseball and everything, then everything in the Commonwealth are also ignorant, so you think? Or did you want us in the story only and across colleges with scicom students and baseball teams, to be able with certainty to connect the dots? There is no mention because there is no need for these details.

sick or not, and evidence to the contrary you have not provided, only their assumptions....and, no, you call them facts ;)

MadHamsterHead
I hesitate to ask, and that somewhere in the dialogue or whether the plot is still found mention of baseball?
Enlighten me narrow - minded- where. But this is America, between other things, the birthplace of baseball and the national game.
I want arguments and not sick imagination.
Just arguments and just the plot of the game.