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Stoic 31.05.20 11:29 am

The main character? (SPOILER ALERT) (Fallout 4)

GG Sint?

- from a conversation with GG Dima should, that he does not remember a childhood or adolescence. His memory starts from the day of the bombing He knows about himself only what you can learn from filing for asylum.
- GG - Superman, a few weeks have adapted to life in the wasteland
- according to the PAM asylum 111 was not to be alive. And strange looked GG, and the corpse of half among solid skeletons

There once was a boy an orphan Sean, who dreamed of a dad (mom), he was smart and, when he became Director of the Institute, created it (the parent) is the place dreamed.
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neperenosimyy 31.05.20

In principle, all listed already. gg's not a synth.
on account of the question of Sinta. you are the person who lived before the war, slept for 220 years. goin ' on around here, another crap starts to pester you deeply abstruse matters not a synth, do you? the gg's are all vivid examples of the past at this stage it just faded the water compared to what he experienced waking through 220 years, of course he'd hesitated, and only the bright moments that he would be at this stage in the head, his wife's death, the loss of a son, and a whole bunch of other strange, mutated crap that wants to kill him. there would be no one remembered what happened to him when in a calm and dimensional life where everything is clear and familiar. Yes, and the question was asked unexpectedly. it's like a survey in the street conduct, you are going about your thinking, then you run up and start something ask until switches, while realizing what kind of game you RUB, you gonna stand there and crush or reply vpopad.

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Abbat76 31.05.20

A beautiful theory, but does not make sense.
Make no mistake: If the HS - synth, it makes no sense to put him in the shelter and introduce the memories of pre-war times. Why? Yes, because it is much more logical and easier for its creators to put the GG from the Institute and implant the memory of him that he was born before the war, came to the shelter, then left the sanctuary, found in the Institute and decided to join myself. GG to implant memories of his loyalty Institute - and he would never have dared to destroy the institution, to join the BS or the Subway, or those poor Minutemen.
And if so, then the question is: why was not to bring the case to the end and to create a synth, which is then picked up and blew up the Institute? This is ridiculous. Even Dima is able to create such synths that don't know what synths are and they firmly believe in their beliefs. For example, the Captain or the Supreme Preacher after the replacement.

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Stoic 31.05.20

Abbat76
So he has United all, then at the Institute and also everyone should think that he's someone from the past. If you do so as you suggested, the Institute will apply to him as to the robot and it will not be for them authority. Maybe it's a personal secret project of Sean.
I do not insist on this version (that he Sint and he is not sure (in the header of the ?)), but a solid argument against either.

PS he cannot create synths, it can (and subway) to replace ready synths consciousness. Well, it turns out a wonderful plastic surgeon.

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kuzimandius 31.05.20

Stoic
What?! No solid arguments against???!!! They brought the car and small truck. Not arguments, but there is a wild reluctance to take them into account, there is a sincere BELIEF that gg - Sint, which laid out trumped assumptions and reasoning. And the question in the title is because understanding is that the case for Harry, no arguments, namely that the assumptions, and the arguments against - in bulk.

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kuzimandius 31.05.20

Stoic
You wrote: I do not like synthetics ))), for me it is a stage of evolution. More nonsense not heard. Evolution, the idea - development from simple to complex, therefore, by definition, cannot be the evolution of the transition from a complex biological object (human) to the incredibly primitive compared to them, the technological object (Shinto). Or do you think robots (any fancy) more difficult person? =))). Well so I disappoint thee ))). Educate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFnzrE29b3E

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Stoic 31.05.20

kuzimandius
In the evolution are dead ends.
Maybe it's a dead end, but nature will find a way out of biological limits.

Where I said I believe, I doubt, I have no confidence in any of the two options, while..

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Halagaz 31.05.20

kuzimandius
Useless to argue with him, he has his own world in its own pot. Institute for noble knights and gg Sint =) don't touch him, not persuaded, I tried to do it half a year=)

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Stoic 31.05.20

Halagaz
That you are aggressive.
Well maybe a person to have an opinion on your life no effect.
If the topic is interesting, cause its argue.
If you are able to listen - listen.
This is normal.
But why ascribe to an opponent not his phrase, to get personal. Only from the weakness of positions that happens.

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Stoic 31.05.20

Evolution is constantly going, including man. Moreover, the newly computed gene, which is now the most actively implemented in the human genome. Of course these changes are not as exciting as the foul, more mundane.
It began several thousand years ago and will be completed in the same amount.

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vzglydizugla 31.05.20

Here's another for the extension of the controversy;
GG Sint. The brain of our pre-war people were placed in a synthetic body (after the first defrost). When transplanting part of the brain memories were corrupted (from the court remember, don't remember). The goal? To make man able to live forever and to resist the atmosphere (radioactive particles, etc.)
Unfortunately, this type of synths were not successful because they returned to their usual activities and were quite uncontrollable.
As an example of Kellog, which is not always performed the task exactly, and did it as with unwanted errors.

PS this stuffing is only a conjecture and attempt to explain the nonsense from GG.

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Halagaz 31.05.20

Stoic
I'm with your opinion already resigned. Arguments and moments you are not affected. You have your vision of the game, why is that different from the plot of the game, the dialogues in the game and game situations.
Even now, brought the car and small truck certain arguments. But you're still relying on your assumptions continue to dream. Here though you have a couple of supporters, such as dreamers=)
But in any case, it doesn't change the fact that, in General, that you're a cool, versatile and interesting person.

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Halagaz 31.05.20

vzglydizugla
Kellogg's longevity - it's a reference in F2, where the scheme was implanted for increasing parameters. All. Chew this topic yet I have no desire.

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vzglydizugla 31.05.20

Halagaz
Schematic of implanted human brain implanted in a synthetic body, nothing normal in the world of Fallout.=)

by the way this topic should have read the writers of the gazebo, it is possible not sickly DLS on the rivet.

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MadHamsterHead 31.05.20

kuzimandius
There are arguments, but the fact that they are solid and uncontroverted....these have been posted yet. If I'm wrong, I can again on at least one point.

Stoic
The ship with the robots, one of the most interesting side quests, by the way
http://ru.fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Конститьюшн

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Stoic 31.05.20

Halagaz
MadHamsterHead
Thank you.
Yes, there is only a scan on the ship, and buggy robot on earth.
And neither a nor profession or nationality, even the name is not. Only the numbers of the battalion and regiment.
He's confused about.
Scan probably by DNA, retina, whatever, but it's all in stock.

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Halagaz 31.05.20

Stoic
I have a GG female. She was given the name room rights and profession.

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Stoic 31.05.20

Halagaz
Name what? The name I mean?
You came up with?
Interesting, now watch the video with the female YY

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Retransfor 31.05.20

MadHamsterHead
Synths are sort of hybrid, organic on a metal skeleton (Hello, terminator). On their health the radiation is certainly not affected. Well, no, there is not one dead Cinta, about which said he died from radiation. In the context of this conversation, of course, which is based on his guesses about what the developers thought ) that's bullshit; just because such a strong plot twist to leave for the speculation of fans, and not realize in the story - just idiocy. Well, because there are generally no prerequisites in the game to such an extreme theory applied to GG. Guys, they're just not zamarachivatsya especially with the plot, there was no mystery, just holes in the plot and all.

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Stoic 31.05.20

Retransfor
If it was organic on a metal skeleton, they would be easy to distinguish from the person, for example, using an elementary metal detector.
Synths 3 generations differ only in artificial intelligence, the human body they have created on the basis of DNA.

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Abbat76 31.05.20

Stoic
Biological limitations, as you call them, exceed all that can be created artificially though, because the biological mechanism that is man has an incredible and impossible for robots abilities:
1) self healing. injury, damage to biological mechanism at the micro level regenerate themselves. without the involvement of service stations. small and minor damage does not accumulate, and zerostat tens and hundreds while working with the person without consequences.
2) the variability of the power mechanism. biological mechanisms don't need the docking station and specialized dressings. you can consume fossil fuels, broad-spectrum, a huge number of variations. organic matter of plant and animal origin. The infrastructure for this fuel is not needed at all. unlike robots.
3) complex cognitive functions. the speed of information processing biological processor type brain is a thousand times superior digital processor. Especially vagina ratio productivity /energy consumption in this ratio, the brain has no equal. And not to mention the fact that the complex movements in space as the obstacle race, parkour, and so the robot can not do and can not speak. Biological the brain copes with this task, and handles more and more.

I'm not talking about the ability to reproduce or infect other programs. biological systems don't need the plants for their replication. they do not need any infrastructure. The same applies to programming. new robots need to load the operating system. biological systems receive identity in the replication process - they are born already with self-consciousness.

So what is evolution? That a complex self-regulating system to go to a primitive dependent systems? Pfff.
I could perceive the evolution from human to a kind of supermind, or the energy form of existence as the new host of the overmind. But this. to primitiveservlet in the direction of simple machines - this degradation.