The main character? (SPOILER ALERT) (Fallout 4)
GG Sint?- from a conversation with GG Dima should, that he does not remember a childhood or adolescence. His memory starts from the day of the bombing He knows about himself only what you can learn from filing for asylum.
- GG - Superman, a few weeks have adapted to life in the wasteland
- according to the PAM asylum 111 was not to be alive. And strange looked GG, and the corpse of half among solid skeletons
There once was a boy an orphan Sean, who dreamed of a dad (mom), he was smart and, when he became Director of the Institute, created it (the parent) is the place dreamed.
Moreover. Evolution is a natural process, extended in time, where the main criterion is natural selection among individuals of the same species, but with different personal settings. The only evolutionary factor in the continuous mutation of all living species on the planet is in continuous RL cosmic radiation. It includes natural background radiation of the Solar system and our planet, the background radiation of the cosmos, the remnants of the radiation flux of a supernova of stars in our solar system. In total all this leads to a permanent effect on the DNA molecule and intra-species mutations. In the world Фолл4а added a new, more powerful evolutionary factor - the radon emission from areas of infection. Consequently, the rate of evolution of the species is likely to increase significantly. What happened: there was the bog, anglerfish, a swallow, a giant rad-roaches, mosquitoes, rad-Scorpions, tumannyy, hermit crabs. Impact on other species as well came true - dog. bears, flies, cows were subjected to external changes. But not the people. Guli - don't count, they are not a new species, and over-exposed individuals and have no offspring. People are not mutated and remained out of evolution. The super mutants don't count - they are a mutation caused by the artificial Virus of Retrievals ( FEV. or FEV in Russian).
So, for Fallout there are still topics to expand, you can write a whole Chapter on evolved under the influence of radiation people. Here only to evolve in robots cannot - it is an artificial creation, not evolution. Nature here did not work.
Abbat76
Major problems : the Limited capacity of the brain, the inability to zoom.
If you connect to the brain some kind of amplifying device through a quick interface, so we have got synthetic.
(the capacity of the brain of the order of several gigobayt that we remember: texts, numbers, some kind of video is very poor quality (when playing brain dorisovyvaet picture). Processing information at the speed of advance release pulse 10m/s wants to be the best, although makes a high degree of paralleli processing)
The whole highlight of the brain is a phenomenon of consciousness and emotions, but the key to his work very closely.
Even if you come from an idealistic point of view that there is a soul, but the brain is all the same material and in this case, only the interface connecting the soul with the body.
At the expense of self-healing, now these nanotechnologists do. recently there was a report that created samoustraniajutsia insulation (or something similar). It doesn't have to be based on DNA.
The bio organisms, they are versatile but slow. For evolution takes thousands and millions of years.
Abbat76
Evolution is not necessarily blind poking of nature, it could be something purposeful.
MadHamsterHead
Stoic
I will try to use Your way of reasoning:
Robyaty, You are terribly mistaken... actually GG - secret spy super-duper fancy civilization... They're severely on the science we have surpassed, and can easily rivet the indistinguishable fancy tests/ways of the body... Where GG knows something/someone knows GG/some data out ... So, you know, the aliens at the Tama implanted in GG telepathic/ telekinetic/ hypnotic effects, it is a piece of cake, and he's just trolling for information of the heads of the interlocutors/ embeds in their minds false memories etc.... (Generously allow, so be it, to replace the aliens on College and be proud of how deftly docked all the incongruities of the story =)))
The methodology of reasoning is exactly what YOUR. Method unfounded assumptions, fabrications and fairy tales in General are stunningly good in the debate so that the introduction of any property of a type to justify ABSOLUTELY ANY suggestion.
Stoic
About the evolution of technology and interfaces:
The brain receives external signals from the senses, PROCESSES them (i.e., encodes) and the result of this encoding is the observed reality. That is the reality - not the external signals, and the coded brain information, that is, the projection of the brain. But sorry, our understanding of such things as the brain, is also received via the external signals from the senses, and these signals were also coded by the brain. To understand that there is in fact, impossible by definition,=))).
Limited capacity of the brain, the inability to zoom. What, what, limited, what, nafig, massalbaye, if the entire observable universe you CREATED, drawn as a result of encoding your brain.. )))
Well, actually the writers were stupid laziness to prescribe the pre-war period from the memoirs of GG.
Stoic
In the Institute there is a laboratory, where all can see. I recommend to familiarize with the concept of Occam's razor, so it will be easier to shape theory.
Retransfor
the synth and the terminator technically is arranged quite differently. Even if we assume that synthetics metal skeleton (although this is never stated), then it's just a skeleton, without an organic shell (muscles, organs and skin) Sint neither to function nor to be still to leave one skeleton in humans - just a corpse.
I tried using a gamma gun to kill Cinta, dies once or twice from the radiation.
MadHamsterHead
In fact, you might as played, if you have not seen the game nor a laboratory for the production of synthetics or lightweight synth in the form of a skeleton that walks, talks, and running on the machine, if not than one.
Retransfor
How do you say lightweight synth - this Sint the first generation. The second generation is almost the first plastic shell.
Synths of the third generation did (raised) on the basis of human DNA (DNA Sean). Between generations, dozens or even hundreds of years.
It is not clear how you played.
Retransfor
watch the video XS how do you think the skeleton (in the beginning of the video) will work without anything else) and where it is metal too, XS))
Stoic says it, those synths are 1st and 2nd generation, not to be confused with the 3rd
Stoic
All the zest of a brain not emotions. Emotions - it is just a makeweight to the flavor. The highlight of the brain in people's ability to think abstractly. That is abstract thinking makes people creative creators. People without the presence of abstract thinking first little recognizable in the crowd, but the world psychiatry calls such people sick light stage of Malone. Such people are able to simple to work, raise their families, conduct social lifestyle, are teachable as long as they are not required in their activities to generate new ideas, new approaches, and to engage in creative activities.
So, no robot will never have abstract thinking. Will never be able to engage in creative activities. to write poetry, to music, to paint pictures. Although any song or verse can be analyzed and described mathematically true, nothing close car create can never. Synthetic - the same robots. Their brain is programmed to feedback from the environment, but nothing more. They are not creators, not inventors, and not poets. They are just a tool. The presence of consciousness, they are not guarantees of abstract thought - they like easy patients stage malome (in common - easy dibilny) able to lead a simple life, but never can create from scratch themselves. Simple emotions, like animals, do not determine their intelligence. Instant, Bach, Rembrant, Pushkin, Tesla had the highest level of abstract thinking. Their brain has defined the tasks and put these tasks into a form in which the main modeling processes was speculative, at the level of the stream of consciousness. But as a result, the light appeared theory, music, painting, poem. No synth will never do.
Even Nick Valentine says about sort - it says that consciousness is a nickname - it's not him, it's just the imposition of another's memory on its host. And when Nick ends his revenge, he says that it is empty and does not know what to do. he has no goals, desires or sense. He fulfilled the desires of man-nick. Sint Nick doesn't know what to do now. This is not progress, it is regression, pure and simple.
MadHamsterHead
What do you think of the bone in the video? or are they in this form are not made, and the trees grow? Yes, they don't look like metal, rather like a polymer. But who said this is not a metal skeleton, covered with neutorgena polymer to organic matter was not oxidized metal and not rejected...
kuzimandius
Absolutely 1000% agree with your interpretation of the perception of reality by the brain. What you say is absolute fact. The brain really encodes information as it is more convenient. And yet - the brain on the go comes up with new encryption algorithms and generates new commands and terms, where before they were not (met, not seen, not known). And there is no abstract thinking can not do. The capacity study identifies the opportunity to structure new data, interpret them and use them later for their own benefit. The notion of the good is also interpreted by the brain on an abstract level. It is particularly important that the concept of social good - it is purely an abstract concept, animal and synths not driven. For others they don't. not sorry for and nothing for them to do will not. Let's take the Subway: PEOPLE save synths, not synths save synths. Cinta rescued from the Institute and he is happy, but his homies he save not in a hurry. Next, remember the plot, where the Curie is possible to give a new body Cinta. Cinta inspect man-woman. No other synth, and people. Apparently synths are not capable of deep social action alone, as void of understanding striketh not capable of such abstract concepts as the greater good.
But the Survivors, on the contrary, being strictly a social, driven by other people's problems and sorrows, helping all on their path of their choice. What defines him as a being with developed abstract thinking, compassionate. So - not a synth by definition.
Abbat76
I do not even want to read your message, because he misquoted me.
I wrote that the highlight of - consciousness first and foremost. Ie the realization of his I
Abbat76
It's possible the bones are grown separately (again on the basis of DNA), so apparently technologically.
If the bones were not bones, the synths would easily recognize.
And this is not possible, at least outside of the Institute.
Propose even more controversial assumption, which may be in the development of the plot:
1) isn't it weird that in the Institute where the genes for you die of cancer not the last person in the Institute? (cancer is the uncontrolled growth of cells with defective genes)
2) In the day of his death, Sean says GG literally don't worry about me, I'll be fine.
I wouldn't be surprised if it said a religious fanatic, but Sean is a scientist, a materialist.
3) Scientists at the Institute are constantly saying, maybe synthetics are children is the key to the future On them as one of the leading specialists of the Institute Sean Lee. Than children-synths are better ready synths adults able to work.
Maybe the fact that they can transfer human consciousness and Sean deliberately took this experiment? A chance for a second life?
Again, stopudoviy for and against no, but will in the second half of the year.
The problem of synthetic life and its relationship with biological now fashionable in futuristic games.
DOE, for example.
Stoic
And I mind it was even said. consciousness is not Izuminka at all. The higher primates and dogs, for example, have a certain consciousness. They are aware of themselves, can demonstrate the simplest of emotions: joy, sorrow, fear, sadness, anger, hatred. I talked about the other. but you have not read, so did not understand that - argued with me. Five balls. Abstract thinking is clearly not your strong point ;)