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Stoic 31.05.20 11:29 am

The main character? (SPOILER ALERT) (Fallout 4)

GG Sint?

- from a conversation with GG Dima should, that he does not remember a childhood or adolescence. His memory starts from the day of the bombing He knows about himself only what you can learn from filing for asylum.
- GG - Superman, a few weeks have adapted to life in the wasteland
- according to the PAM asylum 111 was not to be alive. And strange looked GG, and the corpse of half among solid skeletons

There once was a boy an orphan Sean, who dreamed of a dad (mom), he was smart and, when he became Director of the Institute, created it (the parent) is the place dreamed.
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Abbat76 31.05.20

Stoic
It is possible the bones are grown separately (again on the basis of DNA), so apparently technologically.
Chito? You don't want to open again the video and see (detect time) how long it takes to build one in? a minute and a half somewhere. How much time on the farming of bones, based on human DNA need to spend? I'll give you a hint - not more than a minute on the set of skeletal bones it is necessary to spend, otherwise conveyor Assembly synths will stop due to lack of spare parts.

So, no need to fantasize about accelerated up to a minute outgrowth of the bone based on human DNA, if now much more technologically advanced are titanium and polymer bone prostheses and implants that are not rejected by living tissues. One of my friend 10 years ago derisively bone, right hand polymer implant after his arm was chewed on by a table saw (large teeth of the circular saw scattered pieces of bones so that the hand had either to amputate or to augment the implant. I shipped Andrew in an ambulance after the injury, I know how it was and what happened to him then). Anything - running around with them in hand so far and only a couple of scars reminiscent of the past. That is manufacturable.

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Stoic 31.05.20

Abbat76
First of all it is a game ))
Secondly under this Desk (from where you take the bones) in the basement there is a large shop where they grow the bones and then they go to the Assembly. ))

Again, people can't identify the synth or the person without killing him.
If the bones were not bones, it would be easily was determined after dissection of the skin.without a death

So in this game. Apparently you need to open the brain.

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Abbat76 31.05.20

Stoic
point by point:
1) genes can be in you. however, this does not help the cancer patient with metastases in all the internal organs if the disease is not diagnosed in time. no high technology Institute will not allow you to withdraw metastases from a living body if they have already happened. And the development of the disease? Oh, the cancer can develop very quickly. Certain types of sarcomas (usually poorly differentiated tumors with high proliferative activity, for example rhabdomyosarcoma), in contrast, are characterized by rapid (within a few months or even weeks) progression (C) Wikipedia.
2) what do you think that on his deathbed, when death of the shoulder is, a hard-core materialist cannot change their point of view? By the way, does not appear anywhere hard-core materialism Sean. To make such a conclusion possible only because he was involved in high science. But the same science in his person, could engage theoretical issues of being energy forms of existence or other scientific nonsense.
3)Synths-children - it's just a little synths. because they are collected the same way as adults synths, they are not able to grow, to change mentally. How old is little Shinto-Sean? how old is he behaving like 10-year-old kid? He will be all time of its functioning. He'll never be an adult, and his actions will always remain as children. Synths can not develop. So what about the future for them can be discussed? Synths as such could not be considered as an alternative to human civilization. Car breaks down for the build and all. the end of the population synths.

Tellingly, Kellogg was not a synth. Why? Why is the main operative of the Institute was a human mercenary? Yes, because even the synths are 3rd generation not creative. They are good robots. And still not able to intellectually surpass humans. They are stronger than humans, faster, more accurate. But the Institute chose to strengthen Kellogg's cybernetically, and make him a cyborg, but not replace it with synth-hunter. And that Kellogg's not a synth GG knows for sure - he's in his guts, his hands climbed.

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Stoic 31.05.20

Abbat76
At the expense of abstract thought, you are right. I put it together with the consciousness.

Well, you say, synthetics are not capable of abstraction.
I have a question for the expert: what do you consider the source of abstract thinking? From where it in humans?

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NightHawkreal 31.05.20

In HS a lot of small memories - remember listening to the radio, remembers how he got into baseball, remembers the taste of beer, remember as did Sean. It's unlikely that it's a synth, especially since the Institute would be aware of.

Dima just a little demagogue, though still good.

Abbat76
Sean is still a prototype, maybe he is and is growing well, there is nanotechnology or just parted the hinges.

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Abbat76 31.05.20

Stoic
But that's the point. People coined the term thinking for marking them some special thought processes in humans. People know what characterizes abstract thinking, but don't know how exactly does the process of such thinking. And if they don't know how it works, but I know that it works (like gravity - it's there and works, but how it works?) then recreate it in robots they are not.

Read ray Bradbury do androids Dream elektroauto? Curious classics of science fiction.
Think of yourself: are you dreaming? But how? how and why the process of dreams? )))

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NightHawkreal 31.05.20

By the way the synth you can eat and not even to understand that it is a synth, so the question of autopsy is also difficult.

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Abbat76 31.05.20

NightHawkreal
Dima - classic soulless robot. He figured out that Acadia is advantageous if all the factions on the island will coexist peacefully. Why? It's simple - the war is wasting the limited resources of the island that cannot be found elsewhere. But Dima is not going to die (aka a robot) and so resources he will sooner or later be useful to all.
Spoilered solutions to the problems he chooses like a robot - no regrets. To kill the preacher and immured in the wall. Sew a woman and hide the body away. the least labor-intensive way, no frills, no creativity. Man, with such computational power as Dima (don't forget about its supercomputer to Acadia) for such a long period would have already developed a humane alternative to killing.

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NightHawkreal 31.05.20

Abbat76
The easiest way would be to cut all (the good it may do this) and then to make a Paradise for synths. But he stands for equal rights and trying to save everyone.

And there is simply no alternative, there is the least possible damage. So I think just to get rid of the preacher and get away is the best option? And suddenly come back with reinforcements from from Cromwell and start a war?
I wonder why he chose to forget about Avery?

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Stoic 31.05.20

Abbat76
The points

1) Even today has the technology (unfortunately not universal) for mass replacement of a gene in the cells of the body. And this process is fairly quick.
A phrase from the genes in you means that it is able to adjust not the right genes, or to target and kill cells with these wrong genes. For them should not be a problem. Even today, the primitive acyclovir, for example, selectively kills cells with them are embedded in the genome of herpes simplex virus (breaks DNA at a specific gene and the cell loses ability to divide).

2) In this paragraph, you supported me, not strange.

3) the plot scholars say that the synths are the children are the future. What they mean by that - I don't know. But your assertion that children are no synths grow and develop completely unfounded, moreover, contradict the story, the views of scientists of the Institute..

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NightHawkreal 31.05.20

Dr. Lee says they vbuhali in Sean a lot of resources, so I doubt it's just a smaller synth.

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Abbat76 31.05.20

Stoic
the gene in the cells do not change. a gene is a segment of the DNA helix, and that it would replace the single helix of human DNA, with a length of 17 meters (if you deploy), you need to usecontrol and work without affecting introns. Replacing only one gene in the chain of human DNA to date is the most important task of uncertain outcome.

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Stoic 31.05.20

Abbat76
but to purposefully kill cells with a specific gene - elementary
And to replace the time division for them should not be difficult if you make synthetics.

I do not understand why not change? A gene is a DNA segment. Find this site and cut and paste needed.
It will be in 300 years, so anything is possible.

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NightHawkreal 31.05.20

Stoic
After three hundred years of complete chaos. :)

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Stoic 31.05.20

NightHawkreal
well, not 300, and 200 ))
and devastation mostly in their heads ))
in institutions like the traces of destruction are seen.

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Stoic 31.05.20

In my opinion, through the entire game a red line is the idea that the main problem is the aggressive nature of people. A lot of resources spent on protection from each other and no efforts for development.
Few who are able to negotiate.

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NightHawkreal 31.05.20

Stoic
The Institute was essentially pulled from the surface all that remained of the war.

Yeah, the Minutemen are very well demonstrated.

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Stoic 31.05.20

NightHawkreal
Their negotiability Minutemen well demonstrated in Queens, joining the gunners.

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Kvazipaka Dvunapravlennay 31.05.20

Stoic
it would be an interesting twist, it is logical to explain ability to survive in the wastes GG

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NightHawkreal 31.05.20

Stoic
One Minuteman, but that is not the case. When they were strong - they were glad when the Minutemen became hard, they turned away, deciding just to pay the raiders.

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And I thought it was because he(a) Papa Wolf\Mama bear.:)