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Manifold 26.06.20 10:07 am

The best Gold Find character. Crash test by Manifold (Diablo 2)

Continuing the theme

https://forums.playground.ru/diablo_2/voprosy_pro_uron_oruzhiya_kazhdoj_kategorii_i_zavisimost_statov-991972/

in which a discussion about what a character (“Bild” (C)) is the best/efficient/profitable/fastest in goldfind. I've started to throw stones, they say do not go, all have been long tested and everyone knows that Barba is generally no competitors even on the horizon. And that only deer shake BB Barbu strength, not vitality. Some did not hesitate to something to drag my Single Player background, like on PG zhezh consuls nepavyksta and to fight against them more difficult than in SP. In this case, as the arguments were used rollers with strangers, a bunch of that in the video, did 1 race and it was not clear that these Llery can show relatively long distances. As it turned out, theorists NG is complete and the practitioners and experimentalists units (even in game chat I was informed that leap barb > all).

Gentlemen, let us not quarrel and rend the air are uncorroborated statements. Suggest details to the end to understand the topic goldfind and put in disputes point (maybe not fat, but nevertheless).

In this topic, I will try the realities of the servers Rubattle.net to unlock the potential GF of three characters and try to reach the ceiling with each of them, namely: Blizzard Sorka, War Cry/Battle Cry barb, and Whirlwind barb. We compare them on two important indicators – the budget and profit. With a budget of more or less clear, let's see who to put on the cheaper one is more expensive, and someone in the middle. As profitability will use the indicator of the amount of mined gold per minute, which is obtained by dividing the total amount of gold mined at a distance of 5 races, the total time spent on 5 races. Set of 5 runs were chosen because as it turned out, in practice this is exactly the number of runs barb is able to completely fill the chest and pockets, and then with the gold you need something to do :D.

I'll be doing some attempts for 5 races in each, and bring to the table a figure is gold per minute in the form of a range from the worst (a bad set, when the consuls rarely kopali gold) to a record high (a good set, and when the thing fell out a few piles of gold from each Consul). For all characters there will be two versions: the most economical and the most expensive (more on this will be in the description of the character). Please, could some other measure should be taken into account for a more objective comparison.

I think to explain in detail why farm gold is not necessary. The theme beaten and you can easily find all the details. Personally I spend it to gamble rings and circleof/koronatov. When you reach one of the level 95 characters, this list will be added more charms.

So, we go directly to the point. Meet the first miners – Blizzard sorceress level 93 FalenShards, version 1.0.
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Gameplay (characteristic 3 race and demonstration of clothes) below.
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Gear for ver. 1.0 list:
1. Head: coronet 2 sorceress skills/20 fcr 1 Lem rune (50% extra gold);
2. Amulet: magic 2 sorceress skills/77% extra gold;
3. Chest armor: Wealth rune word in Archon Plate (300% extra gold);
4. Weapon: a sword with 6 runes Lem (450% extra gold);
5. Shield: spirit monarch
6. Gloves: Chance Guards (200% extra gold);
7. Rings: 2 dwarf (+200% extra gold);
8. Belt: craft with FCR/72% extra gold;
9. Shoes: yellow with FRW/RES/80% extra gold;
10. Call to Arms +5 battle orders / spirit monarch

Inventory: cube (if you need to lift something acre gold); torch 19/20; gheeds fortune 160% extra gold; 3 Hz 40% eg; Hz 21 cres/39% eg; cold SK/38% eg; 50 mana/36% eg; LTS 8 lres/22% eg; 23 mana/22% eg; 6 SC 10% eg; 2 STS 9% eg; 1 SC 7% eg.
Features: 1951% eg amount; 1579 life (under Bo); 697 mana (under Bo); -42 fres; 55 cres; 19 lres; -15 pres; Ice blast damage 2238-2316; Blizzard damage 4480-4716.

A small review on the gear. It is clear that it is desirable to have gold find on each slot (recall that +extra gold in contrast to the +magic find does not have the so-called diminishing return), but it is not recommended to ignore break the 63% FCR and +skills sorceress on the helmet and amulet. Merc need to equip so that it does not fall off from Hydra, and light bolts, even under escort, the damage he doesn't need because all the killing makes a character. My prayer merc from normal is Insight in eth Thresher'e (just try this aurastar to regen HP, I recommend), Guardian Angel and Kira''s Guardian.

In the video I showed 3 of the race, which was within 1 minute 42.5 seconds (roughly 34 seconds on the race). Produced 851074 gold 283691 average for the race or 400694 gold per minute. Of course, at a relatively long distance numbers will be different: time the race will grow due to the spawn complex consuls (with the convoy or 2 cold imuna) and the need to choose an interesting drop (charmy, etc.). I did 4 sets for 5 races and here is the result: at the time 11.06.2020 PERFOMANS such corki is 266064 to 388034 gold per minute

What can be done to try to improve this value for a particular version: 1. To raise damage at the expense of skylarov with eg, thus reducing the time required for a set of 5 runs; 2. Find circlet 2/20/2, to get an additional +50% eg thereby slightly increase the amount of gold mined in race 3 To improve your gameplay (not blunt, not to misclicking, not to die, not to die merc, etc) and knock off another couple seconds from the average time of the race and 4. To obtain the blessing of the gods Diablo 2, to each dead the Consul Drupal for 3 piles of gold

Budget corki v1.0 I estimated about 0.5 - 1 Lo (depending on the parameter CtA and torch). I'd like to test infinity merc, but this Pb I do not (yet, at least :D). In theory infomerc was expected to reduce the average time of the race, because it can be a a Kotz staticom all the mobs. Well, imun Turk Ispita to remove and quickly kill it (in version 1.0 I leave). Can lend who invic for a while for the sake of experiment? Will give you, not Scam :D

The arena goes barb is level 88 with a straightforward name Gold-Grinder version 3.0 – it is also the most expensive.
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Video perfomance on 462k gold per minute
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Equipment list:
1. Head: the helmet from the Immortal King set with 2 Lem rune (137% extra gold);
2. Amulet: magic 2 warcries/62% extra gold;
3. Chest armor: Wealth rune word in a Dusk Shroud (300% extra gold);
4. Weapon 1: sword 6 Lem runes (450% extra gold);
5. Weapon 2: sword 6 Lem runes (450% extra gold);
6. Gloves: Chance Guards (200% extra gold);
7. Rings: 2 dwarf (+200% extra gold);
8. Belt: rare with lres/80% extra gold;
9. Shoes: yellow with FRW/RES/80% extra gold;
10. Swap: Najs Puzzler (Teleport charges).

Inventory: cube, torch 19/18; gheeds fortune 160% extra gold; 3 Hz 40% eg; Hz 21 cres/39% eg; wc SK/33% eg; 50 mana/36% eg; LTS 8 lres/22% eg; 23 mana/22% eg; 7 SC 10% eg; tp tome (after all 3 of TP act-> VI 4 proved to be faster than running through the docks of act 3, even given some time which is necessary for the replenishment of book 4 tp act).
Features: 2477% eg; slvl 29 Find Item (55% chance); 4055 life (under Bo OFC); 415 mana; 10 fres; cres 39; 63 lres; 31 pres

Now the most important thing is Merk. The name of the Passive Barb speaks for itself: the character doesn't kill anyone, he is a support for the mercenary (gives Bo a/shout, sometimes uses Leap and War Cry), and he in turn does all the dirty work. In this context, for maximum efficiency merc need to put on the dps, not goldfind (Ala Crown of Thieves, Bonehew 2xlem, Wealth). These extra interest extra gold on the measure will not bring a tangible profit in gold, at the same time races will increase significantly due to lack of damage.

So my choice: eth Reapers Toll (ed/ias jewel), eth Archon Plate Fortitude and Guillaume''s Face (ias jewel). Some prefer Kira''s Guardian in the slot for a helmet that Merck does not fall off under escort. I like this variant do not like and why. The fact that the probability of spawn Consul convoy accounted for only 7.2%, that is roughly only 7 of the 100 races the merc will need these additional all resistance with Kira's. Yes it also has Cannot be Frozen, but from my observations the presence of this fashion is not strictly required. At the same time Guillaume''s Face gives very not sickly increase in dps thanks to crushing blow, deadly strike and 15 strength :D that will work in 93 cases out of 100. In my honest observation with a stopwatch that helmet with the horns allows to reduce the time of the race by about 10 seconds! If the Consul spionida konva, I just leave the game and start a new one. The creation of the game, escape to the Board and realising that it's better to leave and start a new race takes about 20 seconds. That is, at a distance of 100 races will have to spend 140 seconds on the reentry, and the presence of Guillaume''s Face will reduce the time spent on those 100 races, as much as 930 seconds. But the choice, of course, for you. Someone does not accept the fact that you have to throw the white flag in front of the mobs. I – bird is not proud, and can give way if it will bring me more profit in the long run.

Made a table. GF Max is the maximum possible % gold find if all the items and charmy was perfect. GF on kill – real % gold find on a character by killing monsters. GF on FI - %gold find when using Find Item (introduced this column, because it will be different for ww Barba). Gear Cost – everything is clear, the budget. Avg run time – average time of one race. Gold per minute – I do not need to explain. Safety is for hsncom, my subjective assessment of the suitability of the character to farm gold on hardcore on a five-point scale.



In conclusion, I would like to thank MAKC D for kindly providing access to his account and acquired by good :D. Thanks for Sora torch 19/20 and кта5 to corki, Fortitude for Barba!

The first message will be updated as they created characters that are specified in the table.

Thank you for your attention!
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nwn2030 26.06.20

Please still give a comment for HC mode each build. As I understand it, the 1st litter more or less save.

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wb_light 26.06.20

> (even in game chat I was informed that leap barb > all).

> unleash the potential GF of three characters and try to reach the ceiling with each of them, namely: Blizzard Sorka, War Cry/Battle Cry barb, and Whirlwind barb

I understand that leap barb will not participate in this experiment?

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Manifold 26.06.20

nwn2030
Thank you, I will be sure to give a review for hsncom
The Sorka for GF HC, I would not recommend. One wrong move, one miscalculation and goodbye. Are you ready to be 100% focused on the gameplay? I believe that to farm gold by Sorka in spoil on HC is risky. I recommend to wait for the analysis of the bunch and look at them closely

wb_light
I'm 99% sure that the lieper gonna lose the war cry and the ww barb because of the loss of time for redeployment the scoop (lip=knockback). If any of the arguments whereby the lieper can be profitsee wc/ww variants, ready to take them into account and think. Most likely, the lieper would be most relevant to HC, since it will be the safest

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Merlit2019 26.06.20

Cool photo of Corky :D

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nwn2030 26.06.20

Manifold
I used on NA leap-barba BO from another barb on the SWAPO Naj's staff for quick approach with wp travi+control measurement.
In the end, time for giving BO the speed of approaching the consuls+merc cell+Zhyr more profitable than just barb-Golder maroon with BO.
A lot of free points on natural resist, stone skin and so on.
Spending on Naj, as I remember, was about 200k on 3кк, but to play not so boring.

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Manifold 26.06.20

nwn2030
What do you mean cheaper? To have 2 window each game, give a party, give Bo, the display window 2 and will definitely take more time for resolution than farm 1 in the window just barb-a Golder with maroon Bo
Leap Barba hard to beat does not have consuls, why did he have a lot Def and cuts? On HC, of course, never will not be superfluous, but to include the available skill points to the advantages of this approach as if to say...it is doubtful that, if

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bd_sm[TDPG] 26.06.20

he has no say lieper, he said WC/BC, well, aaaaaa

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nwn2030 26.06.20

Manifold
Cheaper, faster, easier.
big BO is important if you merc bastard (cheap wearing/while). Yes, and the max cuts are very important as the next no-no and there are packs of attendants or witch, which you pour blossom.

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Manifold 26.06.20

bd_sm[TDPG]
The argument that lip will profitsee BC? Dumb? And to calculate and show? Just the same

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bd_sm[TDPG] 26.06.20

Manifold
he talked with him, with myself, agreed)

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Manifold 26.06.20

bd_sm[TDPG]
I asked questions, and you write nonsense some

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Sweety_Mustard 26.06.20

Manifold wrote:
Leap Barba hard to beat does not have consuls, why did he have a lot Def and resoures need - there is evil mlebu spawn, very painful at low cuts from the cold, though Raven wear. And Def Yes, no need of shout can not swing, I rocked the current because the other beaver I had.
Lip profitsee the EC that the EC is not stun uniques, - very rare chance works, and they are infection at this time, mana burn (which VTS should fuck as much), let cold enchanted bolts under the convoy and generally bullied in every way. And lieper with teleport amulet and skill (comes quickly), they are rounded up into a pile, where they are easily shred Merck.

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Manifold 26.06.20

Sweety_Mustard
Look, maybe you're right. Want to give CC a chance

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MAKS D 26.06.20

Manifold
Good luck in all your endeavors

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Klassewer 26.06.20

Interesting.

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T-Fox 26.06.20



400K per minute.

Merck demerit 65% of the possible(to accelerate, in General, can be a good idea). Dressed in a low eth Reaper(spent Gul), lo forti(ohm vex, but the price of them ohm), Kira (pul), jwl ias(pul).
The beaver spent about East Carmi were knocked out themselves in the process of Golding. But the price of the invent is small, small mind.

The main feature of the beaver - no need to download separate Chara! This is my BO barb since the beginning of the season. Was enough just to slacsite fi.

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Manifold 26.06.20

T-Fox
Thanks for the video! 400K per minute - very good, my Sorka already behind Barba (but maybe I nuude try to improve the result for it)

I counted the average time of the races of the roller 85 seconds plus or minus.
I have a similar barb still does not work to get at least 80 seconds, and it is essential Ripert. It's probably just the gameplay, you have to get used to swing, even a couple levels (now LVL 87). I would like to stay within 60-70 seconds. And Yes, I don't use TP to town -> EP 4 act. Although, maybe worth a try?

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T-Fox 26.06.20

Manifold
and it's essential Ripert

Should have clarified that I also eth. Just very low...

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kot-stargazer 26.06.20

T-Fox
Che is not lipase to measure to help, or so longer?
Noticed that your merc freezes them ,so sometimes the bodies are lost(broken) and FA them not to search , you would have to exclude freezing .
# Firk lomai ih [brandy craft] polnostbu!

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T-Fox 26.06.20

kot-stargazer
lip prevents. it seemed so long.

If you eliminate the frozen, then run this beaver to slow down twice that there is no profit in gold/corpses to me this does not compensate.

The only Vario - swing is to contact the beaver, which he breaks consuls. But not worth powder and shot. Time to Kutch will take much more than I will save in travincal. And even runes. And it is not yet known whether it will save the new Golder at least a minute. Waiting for the tests of default.