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Manifold 26.06.20 10:07 am

The best Gold Find character. Crash test by Manifold (Diablo 2)

Continuing the theme

https://forums.playground.ru/diablo_2/voprosy_pro_uron_oruzhiya_kazhdoj_kategorii_i_zavisimost_statov-991972/

in which a discussion about what a character (“Bild” (C)) is the best/efficient/profitable/fastest in goldfind. I've started to throw stones, they say do not go, all have been long tested and everyone knows that Barba is generally no competitors even on the horizon. And that only deer shake BB Barbu strength, not vitality. Some did not hesitate to something to drag my Single Player background, like on PG zhezh consuls nepavyksta and to fight against them more difficult than in SP. In this case, as the arguments were used rollers with strangers, a bunch of that in the video, did 1 race and it was not clear that these Llery can show relatively long distances. As it turned out, theorists NG is complete and the practitioners and experimentalists units (even in game chat I was informed that leap barb > all).

Gentlemen, let us not quarrel and rend the air are uncorroborated statements. Suggest details to the end to understand the topic goldfind and put in disputes point (maybe not fat, but nevertheless).

In this topic, I will try the realities of the servers Rubattle.net to unlock the potential GF of three characters and try to reach the ceiling with each of them, namely: Blizzard Sorka, War Cry/Battle Cry barb, and Whirlwind barb. We compare them on two important indicators – the budget and profit. With a budget of more or less clear, let's see who to put on the cheaper one is more expensive, and someone in the middle. As profitability will use the indicator of the amount of mined gold per minute, which is obtained by dividing the total amount of gold mined at a distance of 5 races, the total time spent on 5 races. Set of 5 runs were chosen because as it turned out, in practice this is exactly the number of runs barb is able to completely fill the chest and pockets, and then with the gold you need something to do :D.

I'll be doing some attempts for 5 races in each, and bring to the table a figure is gold per minute in the form of a range from the worst (a bad set, when the consuls rarely kopali gold) to a record high (a good set, and when the thing fell out a few piles of gold from each Consul). For all characters there will be two versions: the most economical and the most expensive (more on this will be in the description of the character). Please, could some other measure should be taken into account for a more objective comparison.

I think to explain in detail why farm gold is not necessary. The theme beaten and you can easily find all the details. Personally I spend it to gamble rings and circleof/koronatov. When you reach one of the level 95 characters, this list will be added more charms.

So, we go directly to the point. Meet the first miners – Blizzard sorceress level 93 FalenShards, version 1.0.
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Gameplay (characteristic 3 race and demonstration of clothes) below.
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Gear for ver. 1.0 list:
1. Head: coronet 2 sorceress skills/20 fcr 1 Lem rune (50% extra gold);
2. Amulet: magic 2 sorceress skills/77% extra gold;
3. Chest armor: Wealth rune word in Archon Plate (300% extra gold);
4. Weapon: a sword with 6 runes Lem (450% extra gold);
5. Shield: spirit monarch
6. Gloves: Chance Guards (200% extra gold);
7. Rings: 2 dwarf (+200% extra gold);
8. Belt: craft with FCR/72% extra gold;
9. Shoes: yellow with FRW/RES/80% extra gold;
10. Call to Arms +5 battle orders / spirit monarch

Inventory: cube (if you need to lift something acre gold); torch 19/20; gheeds fortune 160% extra gold; 3 Hz 40% eg; Hz 21 cres/39% eg; cold SK/38% eg; 50 mana/36% eg; LTS 8 lres/22% eg; 23 mana/22% eg; 6 SC 10% eg; 2 STS 9% eg; 1 SC 7% eg.
Features: 1951% eg amount; 1579 life (under Bo); 697 mana (under Bo); -42 fres; 55 cres; 19 lres; -15 pres; Ice blast damage 2238-2316; Blizzard damage 4480-4716.

A small review on the gear. It is clear that it is desirable to have gold find on each slot (recall that +extra gold in contrast to the +magic find does not have the so-called diminishing return), but it is not recommended to ignore break the 63% FCR and +skills sorceress on the helmet and amulet. Merc need to equip so that it does not fall off from Hydra, and light bolts, even under escort, the damage he doesn't need because all the killing makes a character. My prayer merc from normal is Insight in eth Thresher'e (just try this aurastar to regen HP, I recommend), Guardian Angel and Kira''s Guardian.

In the video I showed 3 of the race, which was within 1 minute 42.5 seconds (roughly 34 seconds on the race). Produced 851074 gold 283691 average for the race or 400694 gold per minute. Of course, at a relatively long distance numbers will be different: time the race will grow due to the spawn complex consuls (with the convoy or 2 cold imuna) and the need to choose an interesting drop (charmy, etc.). I did 4 sets for 5 races and here is the result: at the time 11.06.2020 PERFOMANS such corki is 266064 to 388034 gold per minute

What can be done to try to improve this value for a particular version: 1. To raise damage at the expense of skylarov with eg, thus reducing the time required for a set of 5 runs; 2. Find circlet 2/20/2, to get an additional +50% eg thereby slightly increase the amount of gold mined in race 3 To improve your gameplay (not blunt, not to misclicking, not to die, not to die merc, etc) and knock off another couple seconds from the average time of the race and 4. To obtain the blessing of the gods Diablo 2, to each dead the Consul Drupal for 3 piles of gold

Budget corki v1.0 I estimated about 0.5 - 1 Lo (depending on the parameter CtA and torch). I'd like to test infinity merc, but this Pb I do not (yet, at least :D). In theory infomerc was expected to reduce the average time of the race, because it can be a a Kotz staticom all the mobs. Well, imun Turk Ispita to remove and quickly kill it (in version 1.0 I leave). Can lend who invic for a while for the sake of experiment? Will give you, not Scam :D

The arena goes barb is level 88 with a straightforward name Gold-Grinder version 3.0 – it is also the most expensive.
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Video perfomance on 462k gold per minute
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Equipment list:
1. Head: the helmet from the Immortal King set with 2 Lem rune (137% extra gold);
2. Amulet: magic 2 warcries/62% extra gold;
3. Chest armor: Wealth rune word in a Dusk Shroud (300% extra gold);
4. Weapon 1: sword 6 Lem runes (450% extra gold);
5. Weapon 2: sword 6 Lem runes (450% extra gold);
6. Gloves: Chance Guards (200% extra gold);
7. Rings: 2 dwarf (+200% extra gold);
8. Belt: rare with lres/80% extra gold;
9. Shoes: yellow with FRW/RES/80% extra gold;
10. Swap: Najs Puzzler (Teleport charges).

Inventory: cube, torch 19/18; gheeds fortune 160% extra gold; 3 Hz 40% eg; Hz 21 cres/39% eg; wc SK/33% eg; 50 mana/36% eg; LTS 8 lres/22% eg; 23 mana/22% eg; 7 SC 10% eg; tp tome (after all 3 of TP act-> VI 4 proved to be faster than running through the docks of act 3, even given some time which is necessary for the replenishment of book 4 tp act).
Features: 2477% eg; slvl 29 Find Item (55% chance); 4055 life (under Bo OFC); 415 mana; 10 fres; cres 39; 63 lres; 31 pres

Now the most important thing is Merk. The name of the Passive Barb speaks for itself: the character doesn't kill anyone, he is a support for the mercenary (gives Bo a/shout, sometimes uses Leap and War Cry), and he in turn does all the dirty work. In this context, for maximum efficiency merc need to put on the dps, not goldfind (Ala Crown of Thieves, Bonehew 2xlem, Wealth). These extra interest extra gold on the measure will not bring a tangible profit in gold, at the same time races will increase significantly due to lack of damage.

So my choice: eth Reapers Toll (ed/ias jewel), eth Archon Plate Fortitude and Guillaume''s Face (ias jewel). Some prefer Kira''s Guardian in the slot for a helmet that Merck does not fall off under escort. I like this variant do not like and why. The fact that the probability of spawn Consul convoy accounted for only 7.2%, that is roughly only 7 of the 100 races the merc will need these additional all resistance with Kira's. Yes it also has Cannot be Frozen, but from my observations the presence of this fashion is not strictly required. At the same time Guillaume''s Face gives very not sickly increase in dps thanks to crushing blow, deadly strike and 15 strength :D that will work in 93 cases out of 100. In my honest observation with a stopwatch that helmet with the horns allows to reduce the time of the race by about 10 seconds! If the Consul spionida konva, I just leave the game and start a new one. The creation of the game, escape to the Board and realising that it's better to leave and start a new race takes about 20 seconds. That is, at a distance of 100 races will have to spend 140 seconds on the reentry, and the presence of Guillaume''s Face will reduce the time spent on those 100 races, as much as 930 seconds. But the choice, of course, for you. Someone does not accept the fact that you have to throw the white flag in front of the mobs. I – bird is not proud, and can give way if it will bring me more profit in the long run.

Made a table. GF Max is the maximum possible % gold find if all the items and charmy was perfect. GF on kill – real % gold find on a character by killing monsters. GF on FI - %gold find when using Find Item (introduced this column, because it will be different for ww Barba). Gear Cost – everything is clear, the budget. Avg run time – average time of one race. Gold per minute – I do not need to explain. Safety is for hsncom, my subjective assessment of the suitability of the character to farm gold on hardcore on a five-point scale.



In conclusion, I would like to thank MAKC D for kindly providing access to his account and acquired by good :D. Thanks for Sora torch 19/20 and кта5 to corki, Fortitude for Barba!

The first message will be updated as they created characters that are specified in the table.

Thank you for your attention!
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Manifold 26.06.20

A new record for Blizzard the Sorka - 462.5 k gold per minute! About the same as at most expensive build barbarian. The video below (I made up 461k per minute).
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Also collected statistics for the Blizzard Sorka and Barba - did 15 sets of 5 runs each. That is, the total distance is 75 runs. Here's what the numbers turned out

Blizzard Sorka with a budget of ~0.5 Lo
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Passive barb with a budget of ~1 Lo
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What does it all mean? In short, barb produces approximately 10% more gold than Blizzard Sorka for the same amount of time and it costs 2 times more expensive. Gameplay they are completely different, I like to play actively for the sorceress, it allows you to kill the consuls himself. Some prefer a relaxed way to collect gold barb, but the price... in fact a double

Here's an interim summary of the topic.

Slowly getting used to the whirlwind build. To achieve with it good results I have to put every race in one minute, that while I have obtained with great difficulty. Lose a lot of time really picking up gold because of the cluttered screen. The passive variant of this problem is almost there you can do Find Item and pick up the gold immediately after the murder of the Consul and merc. And here it is necessary first of all to kill (which in principle is fast), and only then to switch to Find Item and rake drop...

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minovalo 26.06.20

Good result for sovkovogo build.

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Obsessed 26.06.20

Lose a lot of time really picking up gold because of the cluttered screen
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Sweety_Mustard 26.06.20

passed
And that's all you can answer it :C now Crushed validating, that the youth of New...

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minovalo 26.06.20

Sweety_Mustard
And me and no one asked so. Video of construction of the more eloquent comments.

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Manifold 26.06.20

A new record! Delivered a whirlwind barb: 469k gold per minute - is that the best PERFOMANS over short distances among all three characters.

5 races missed in 5 minutes, 47 seconds (69.4 seconds average race), collected 2713312 gold. And the party started shockingly, 2nd and 3rd race totally brought me around 450k, 4th - ~1.2 kk, 5 to ~700k! No luck records are not achieved...

WW build is made for 10 sets of 5 races, avg gold per minute - ~355k, still lower than the Blizzard of corki and passive Barba. Will finish every character, the number of sets to 20 and then lay out the final figures. Video for ww-Barba will add in a couple of days.

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Manifold 15.07.20

Latest news from the spoil fields. First - a new absolute record: 482.8 k gold per minute set Blizzard Sorka (can video pour if you're interested).

The second - has finished 20 sets of 5 runs for all the expensive Assembly. In the first place was the expected Passive Barb with a budget of ~1-1.5 Lo, reaching about 400k per minute. On the second Blizzard Sorka with exponent ~368k per minute with a budget of 0.5-1 Lo. And closes the three whirlwind barb with a budget of 1-2 Lo, extracting 360k per minute.

It remains only to digitize a budget WW build with 2 Oath. Today traded in my rune Ist on Oath in BB. I will try this week to bring the final results (although now almost all more or less clear).

PS: how do you like the idea to organize a raffle ked among the miners? For example, the one who will beat my record in 482.8 k/min I will solemnly hand over the rune, Lo. For less, I think it undermined and shoot video with the removal of spoil will not. Fly like the theme or not?

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gottenspell 15.07.20

Manifold
I do not know fly there, but it sounds interesting. Much more interesting than runes for guessing songs or other nonsense.

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Dmitriy Zhigunov 15.07.20

And Berserker is not considered? As for me it is no worse BB

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Manifold 15.07.20

Dmitriy Zhigunov
Berserker single target attack as it can't be worse than BB?

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Obsessed 15.07.20

passed, Flicker strike ;-)

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Jay_xD 15.07.20

Manifold wrote:
For example, the one who will beat my record in 482.8 k/min I will solemnly hand over the rune, Lo.
for 4minuty and 5seconds gathered 2.5 kk gold
I beat your record)))

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Manifold 15.07.20

Jay_xD
The video will be? Well the details at least some... for whom, how many runs was that? I believe it was a barb at a distance of 3 race... if Yes, compare my record is incorrect

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Jay_xD 15.07.20

Manifold
two passive barbarian at the same time)))
ran a lot, but the video recorded only a top race

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Manifold 15.07.20

Jay_xD
An interesting approach))
This type of made a window to take down and then a second window go to another game, thus effectively doubling the profit? I suspect there will be a small loss of time in switching Windows for Find Item, but, nevertheless, I can not mention your resourcefulness :D

But you know that our records can not be compared? Two completely different leagues

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Jay_xD 15.07.20

Manifold
run two diablo2 window > arrange two Windows on the monitor to see both at once > you can reduce the window size to 640x480 (if not fit)

in the first window barbarian run to hell spoil > Merk begins to break down the consuls > switch to second window > run barbarian to hell spoil > Merk begins to break down the consuls > in the first window Merck have all either broke or had to finish their work > collect the gold, exit, create new game > etc.

profit = 1,5 - 1,75 x farm gold in a single window

so what's my League ?)))
the task is to independently from other players to collect the maximum amount of gold per unit of time?)

2,812,895 gold for 245секунд
688,872 gold in one minute

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Manifold 15.07.20

Jay_xD
so what's my League ?)))
You have a two-window League, I have one window :D

the task is to...
Well not quite. In the first post, I covered how I think the increased gold per minute is the total amount of gold collected in 5 races, and divided by the total time spent, and there was not a word about windowing. 5 races - so a relatively short distance for estimates, and you, apparently, race was only 3, but each of the two Windows. I had that for the first 2 wound one window (150 seconds) in the chest will have about 1.8 KK gold, equivalent to 720к gold per minute. If you think so, then the index becomes too high and the real profit build for a long distance impossible to estimate

Anyway, I accepted your challenge in League two-window )). Just clarify, please, how do I do races every window, then we are not comparing ass with a finger

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Viperept 15.07.20

Finger usually with another body and not compare with a booty))))

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Klassewer 15.07.20

Jay_xD wrote:
profit = 1,5 - 1,75 x farm gold in a single window
It turns out that the efficiency +- like wigs? I remember someone (you) in the chat said that although the wigs and cut them there is no alternative speed.

However, you did not lie. All these theories of practice can never back up.(especially on HC)

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Jay_xD 15.07.20

Klassewer wrote:
It turns out that the efficiency +- like wigs? I remember someone (you) in the chat said that although the wigs and cut them there is no alternative speed.
5 minutes going 3кк, which is equivalent to the pool ranseur, plus drop
but gold is not often possible to sell other players, and with a drop I know)))
wigs do more)))