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Manifold 26.06.20 10:07 am

The best Gold Find character. Crash test by Manifold (Diablo 2)

Continuing the theme

https://forums.playground.ru/diablo_2/voprosy_pro_uron_oruzhiya_kazhdoj_kategorii_i_zavisimost_statov-991972/

in which a discussion about what a character (“Bild” (C)) is the best/efficient/profitable/fastest in goldfind. I've started to throw stones, they say do not go, all have been long tested and everyone knows that Barba is generally no competitors even on the horizon. And that only deer shake BB Barbu strength, not vitality. Some did not hesitate to something to drag my Single Player background, like on PG zhezh consuls nepavyksta and to fight against them more difficult than in SP. In this case, as the arguments were used rollers with strangers, a bunch of that in the video, did 1 race and it was not clear that these Llery can show relatively long distances. As it turned out, theorists NG is complete and the practitioners and experimentalists units (even in game chat I was informed that leap barb > all).

Gentlemen, let us not quarrel and rend the air are uncorroborated statements. Suggest details to the end to understand the topic goldfind and put in disputes point (maybe not fat, but nevertheless).

In this topic, I will try the realities of the servers Rubattle.net to unlock the potential GF of three characters and try to reach the ceiling with each of them, namely: Blizzard Sorka, War Cry/Battle Cry barb, and Whirlwind barb. We compare them on two important indicators – the budget and profit. With a budget of more or less clear, let's see who to put on the cheaper one is more expensive, and someone in the middle. As profitability will use the indicator of the amount of mined gold per minute, which is obtained by dividing the total amount of gold mined at a distance of 5 races, the total time spent on 5 races. Set of 5 runs were chosen because as it turned out, in practice this is exactly the number of runs barb is able to completely fill the chest and pockets, and then with the gold you need something to do :D.

I'll be doing some attempts for 5 races in each, and bring to the table a figure is gold per minute in the form of a range from the worst (a bad set, when the consuls rarely kopali gold) to a record high (a good set, and when the thing fell out a few piles of gold from each Consul). For all characters there will be two versions: the most economical and the most expensive (more on this will be in the description of the character). Please, could some other measure should be taken into account for a more objective comparison.

I think to explain in detail why farm gold is not necessary. The theme beaten and you can easily find all the details. Personally I spend it to gamble rings and circleof/koronatov. When you reach one of the level 95 characters, this list will be added more charms.

So, we go directly to the point. Meet the first miners – Blizzard sorceress level 93 FalenShards, version 1.0.
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Gameplay (characteristic 3 race and demonstration of clothes) below.
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Gear for ver. 1.0 list:
1. Head: coronet 2 sorceress skills/20 fcr 1 Lem rune (50% extra gold);
2. Amulet: magic 2 sorceress skills/77% extra gold;
3. Chest armor: Wealth rune word in Archon Plate (300% extra gold);
4. Weapon: a sword with 6 runes Lem (450% extra gold);
5. Shield: spirit monarch
6. Gloves: Chance Guards (200% extra gold);
7. Rings: 2 dwarf (+200% extra gold);
8. Belt: craft with FCR/72% extra gold;
9. Shoes: yellow with FRW/RES/80% extra gold;
10. Call to Arms +5 battle orders / spirit monarch

Inventory: cube (if you need to lift something acre gold); torch 19/20; gheeds fortune 160% extra gold; 3 Hz 40% eg; Hz 21 cres/39% eg; cold SK/38% eg; 50 mana/36% eg; LTS 8 lres/22% eg; 23 mana/22% eg; 6 SC 10% eg; 2 STS 9% eg; 1 SC 7% eg.
Features: 1951% eg amount; 1579 life (under Bo); 697 mana (under Bo); -42 fres; 55 cres; 19 lres; -15 pres; Ice blast damage 2238-2316; Blizzard damage 4480-4716.

A small review on the gear. It is clear that it is desirable to have gold find on each slot (recall that +extra gold in contrast to the +magic find does not have the so-called diminishing return), but it is not recommended to ignore break the 63% FCR and +skills sorceress on the helmet and amulet. Merc need to equip so that it does not fall off from Hydra, and light bolts, even under escort, the damage he doesn't need because all the killing makes a character. My prayer merc from normal is Insight in eth Thresher'e (just try this aurastar to regen HP, I recommend), Guardian Angel and Kira''s Guardian.

In the video I showed 3 of the race, which was within 1 minute 42.5 seconds (roughly 34 seconds on the race). Produced 851074 gold 283691 average for the race or 400694 gold per minute. Of course, at a relatively long distance numbers will be different: time the race will grow due to the spawn complex consuls (with the convoy or 2 cold imuna) and the need to choose an interesting drop (charmy, etc.). I did 4 sets for 5 races and here is the result: at the time 11.06.2020 PERFOMANS such corki is 266064 to 388034 gold per minute

What can be done to try to improve this value for a particular version: 1. To raise damage at the expense of skylarov with eg, thus reducing the time required for a set of 5 runs; 2. Find circlet 2/20/2, to get an additional +50% eg thereby slightly increase the amount of gold mined in race 3 To improve your gameplay (not blunt, not to misclicking, not to die, not to die merc, etc) and knock off another couple seconds from the average time of the race and 4. To obtain the blessing of the gods Diablo 2, to each dead the Consul Drupal for 3 piles of gold

Budget corki v1.0 I estimated about 0.5 - 1 Lo (depending on the parameter CtA and torch). I'd like to test infinity merc, but this Pb I do not (yet, at least :D). In theory infomerc was expected to reduce the average time of the race, because it can be a a Kotz staticom all the mobs. Well, imun Turk Ispita to remove and quickly kill it (in version 1.0 I leave). Can lend who invic for a while for the sake of experiment? Will give you, not Scam :D

The arena goes barb is level 88 with a straightforward name Gold-Grinder version 3.0 – it is also the most expensive.
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Video perfomance on 462k gold per minute
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Equipment list:
1. Head: the helmet from the Immortal King set with 2 Lem rune (137% extra gold);
2. Amulet: magic 2 warcries/62% extra gold;
3. Chest armor: Wealth rune word in a Dusk Shroud (300% extra gold);
4. Weapon 1: sword 6 Lem runes (450% extra gold);
5. Weapon 2: sword 6 Lem runes (450% extra gold);
6. Gloves: Chance Guards (200% extra gold);
7. Rings: 2 dwarf (+200% extra gold);
8. Belt: rare with lres/80% extra gold;
9. Shoes: yellow with FRW/RES/80% extra gold;
10. Swap: Najs Puzzler (Teleport charges).

Inventory: cube, torch 19/18; gheeds fortune 160% extra gold; 3 Hz 40% eg; Hz 21 cres/39% eg; wc SK/33% eg; 50 mana/36% eg; LTS 8 lres/22% eg; 23 mana/22% eg; 7 SC 10% eg; tp tome (after all 3 of TP act-> VI 4 proved to be faster than running through the docks of act 3, even given some time which is necessary for the replenishment of book 4 tp act).
Features: 2477% eg; slvl 29 Find Item (55% chance); 4055 life (under Bo OFC); 415 mana; 10 fres; cres 39; 63 lres; 31 pres

Now the most important thing is Merk. The name of the Passive Barb speaks for itself: the character doesn't kill anyone, he is a support for the mercenary (gives Bo a/shout, sometimes uses Leap and War Cry), and he in turn does all the dirty work. In this context, for maximum efficiency merc need to put on the dps, not goldfind (Ala Crown of Thieves, Bonehew 2xlem, Wealth). These extra interest extra gold on the measure will not bring a tangible profit in gold, at the same time races will increase significantly due to lack of damage.

So my choice: eth Reapers Toll (ed/ias jewel), eth Archon Plate Fortitude and Guillaume''s Face (ias jewel). Some prefer Kira''s Guardian in the slot for a helmet that Merck does not fall off under escort. I like this variant do not like and why. The fact that the probability of spawn Consul convoy accounted for only 7.2%, that is roughly only 7 of the 100 races the merc will need these additional all resistance with Kira's. Yes it also has Cannot be Frozen, but from my observations the presence of this fashion is not strictly required. At the same time Guillaume''s Face gives very not sickly increase in dps thanks to crushing blow, deadly strike and 15 strength :D that will work in 93 cases out of 100. In my honest observation with a stopwatch that helmet with the horns allows to reduce the time of the race by about 10 seconds! If the Consul spionida konva, I just leave the game and start a new one. The creation of the game, escape to the Board and realising that it's better to leave and start a new race takes about 20 seconds. That is, at a distance of 100 races will have to spend 140 seconds on the reentry, and the presence of Guillaume''s Face will reduce the time spent on those 100 races, as much as 930 seconds. But the choice, of course, for you. Someone does not accept the fact that you have to throw the white flag in front of the mobs. I – bird is not proud, and can give way if it will bring me more profit in the long run.

Made a table. GF Max is the maximum possible % gold find if all the items and charmy was perfect. GF on kill – real % gold find on a character by killing monsters. GF on FI - %gold find when using Find Item (introduced this column, because it will be different for ww Barba). Gear Cost – everything is clear, the budget. Avg run time – average time of one race. Gold per minute – I do not need to explain. Safety is for hsncom, my subjective assessment of the suitability of the character to farm gold on hardcore on a five-point scale.



In conclusion, I would like to thank MAKC D for kindly providing access to his account and acquired by good :D. Thanks for Sora torch 19/20 and кта5 to corki, Fortitude for Barba!

The first message will be updated as they created characters that are specified in the table.

Thank you for your attention!
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Manifold 26.06.20

kot-stargazer
Reaper adds cold damage. Not to split frozen consuls and to achieve the same (or even more) dps required botd in eth war pike. But the budget for such Golder in the framework of PG, then soars to the heavens :D

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kot-stargazer 26.06.20

T-Fox
You know, I always did Jorquera of tercera, but not for the extraction of gold-it was minor, and to search for runes through the FA's guide of Enceladus else.But frankly: as long as I didn't run that here , that from a third party source even with special. Advanta on FA runes and I did not see a big, high-type small fell 1 n times.I always the same Entse advised to run yet, but I drove alas...And I realized that drop runes in D2-disposed to me at all.But there, Yes ,the neck is desired is desirable, and the rest of the SS Bosko Barbossa armor fell to +1 and +to max soprotivleniy(forgot the name) of verdungo ,dwarf ring and the type of armor , +on the swap spear +3 or knives.The neck in fact the most expensive there.But I liked that he cut and not merc+ money too on Ada standards falling ,smaller of course than the Golder but the identity standards.
I even here when the guide was written based on Enceladus build...I don't frenula, sorry, should have handrails to try, but vhat I then prevented, I do not remember that.
# Firk lomai ih [brandy craft] polnostbu!

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kot-stargazer 26.06.20

Manifold
It may well be, I just Golder did not when their always chopping, and th there in arms a little do not know, see post above, where I painted a little bit.
# Firk lomai ih [brandy craft] polnostbu!

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Manifold 26.06.20

The arena goes barb is level 88 with a straightforward name Gold-Grinder version 3.0 – it is also the most expensive.
Spoiler

Equipment list:
1. Head: the helmet from the Immortal King set with 2 Lem rune (137% extra gold);
2. Amulet: magic 2 warcries/62% extra gold;
3. Chest armor: Wealth rune word in a Dusk Shroud (300% extra gold);
4. Weapon 1: sword 6 Lem runes (450% extra gold);
5. Weapon 2: sword 6 Lem runes (450% extra gold);
6. Gloves: Chance Guards (200% extra gold);
7. Rings: 2 dwarf (+200% extra gold);
8. Belt: rare with lres/80% extra gold;
9. Shoes: yellow with FRW/RES/80% extra gold;
10. Swap: Najs Puzzler (Teleport charges).

Inventory: cube, torch 19/18; gheeds fortune 160% extra gold; 3 Hz 40% eg; Hz 21 cres/39% eg; wc SK/33% eg; 50 mana/36% eg; LTS 8 lres/22% eg; 23 mana/22% eg; 7 SC 10% eg; tp tome (after all 3 of TP act-> VI 4 proved to be faster than running through the docks of act 3, even given some time which is necessary for the replenishment of book 4 tp act).
Features: 2477% eg; slvl 29 Find Item (55% chance); 4055 life (under Bo OFC); 415 mana; 10 fres; cres 39; 63 lres; 31 pres

Now the most important thing is Merk. The name of the Passive Barb speaks for itself: the character doesn't kill anyone, he is a support for the mercenary (gives Bo a/shout, sometimes uses Leap and War Cry), and he in turn does all the dirty work. In this context, for maximum efficiency merc need to put on the dps, not goldfind (Ala Crown of Thieves, Bonehew 2xlem, Wealth). These extra interest extra gold on the measure will not bring a tangible profit in gold, at the same time races will increase significantly due to lack of damage.

So my choice: eth Reapers Toll (ed/ias jewel), eth Archon Plate Fortitude and Guillaume''s Face (ias jewel). Some prefer Kira''s Guardian in the slot for a helmet that Merck does not fall off under escort. I like this variant do not like and why. The fact that the probability of spawn Consul convoy accounted for only 7.2%, that is roughly only 7 of the 100 races the merc will need these additional all resistance with Kira's. Yes it also has Cannot be Frozen, but from my observations the presence of this fashion is not strictly required. At the same time Guillaume''s Face gives very not sickly increase in dps thanks to crushing blow, deadly strike and 15 strength :D that will work in 93 cases out of 100. In my honest observation with a stopwatch that helmet with the horns allows to reduce the time of the race by about 10 seconds! If the Consul spionida konva, I just leave the game and start a new one. The creation of the game, escape to the Board and realising that it's better to leave and start a new race takes about 20 seconds. That is, at a distance of 100 races will have to spend 140 seconds on the reentry, and the presence of Guillaume''s Face will reduce the time spent on those 100 races, as much as 930 seconds. But the choice, of course, for you. Someone does not accept the fact that you have to throw the white flag in front of the mobs. I – bird is not proud, and can give way if it will bring me more profit in the long run.

Corrected table. GF Max is the maximum possible % gold find if all the items and charmy was perfect. GF on kill – real % gold find on a character by killing monsters. GF on FI - %gold find when using Find Item (introduced this column, because it will be different for ww Barba). Gear Cost – everything is clear, the budget. Avg run time – average time of one race. Gold per minute – I do not need to explain. Safety is for hsncom, my subjective assessment of the suitability of the character to farm gold on hardcore on a five-point scale.



Also slightly changed the method of counting gold per minute. Now this figure is obtained by dividing the total amount of gold mined at a distance of 5 races, the total time spent on 5 races. Set of 5 runs were chosen because as it turned out, in practice this is exactly the number of runs passive barb is capable of almost completely fill the chest and pockets, and then with the gold you need something to do :D. Also at the end of each set I I reach the NPC in act 4, repairing all equipment and buy a tp scroll, and spent that gold is not considered in the calculations (i.e. when reloaded Najs Puzzler on 100k, then brought less than 100k over the 5 runs). The time for this manipulation also counts.

I made several attempts for 5 races each, and have brought to the table index gold per minute in the form of a range from the worst (a bad set, when the consuls rarely kopali gold) to a record high (a good set, and when the thing fell out a few piles of gold from each Consul).
Depending on luck (mood of the God of randomness), the most expensive passive barb of grindith to 443к gold per minute! Don't even know if I will be able to surpass in the future, the figure for the ww barb. My plan is to first understand what a budget version of Gold-Grindera and Whirlwind the option would be as a dessert.

Unfortunately, I haven't had time to record a video for passive Barba. Will definitely do it once given the opportunity.

Thank you all for your attention and good luck!

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Fanat Obsesseda 26.06.20

kot-stargazer
Hello throw a reference please in PM, I wonder from this man to read.

I recently played a lot for the body of the barbarian using WW. My gameplay tipo fly-scream-kill only the boss luchesi not very racking, I try to kill all who sees on the way to the point and open every chest, and it has its benefits, fun tipo Lo fallen tonight (devilkin) on the road in the pit, but even easier runka has long ceased to cause surprise, although this phenomenon occurs rarely.
Find item also brought profit of definitely fit fell WTravelers 49%mf (which is now running) from the corpse of the champion in Lost City, Sur in travincal, there were other less useful but very rare items 80+level, supposedly Metalgrid, Stellendam, necro-head what is Grandfather caught from a corpse in the pita, it is nice that fall.
MF varies from ~170 to 300 depending on ekipa. Merc with decree. To 4ппл blows very briskly a small handful of monsters in any location

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T-Fox 26.06.20

Manifold
Kira not only for cuts and wear. It is equal to merc. In my experience he's with Kira enduring, for it is almost one to watch.
But GUIL also a good Vario. DMG compensates for the lack of cbf.

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Zigzag-V 26.06.20


3-20-20 forgot to raise

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Manifold 26.06.20

T-Fox
Kira is also a working version, do not argue. But records with her not to put.
Merck copes without KBF if at least a little to help him leapом and war cry. Of the 40 races he's died on me only 1 time when I left him without support in the stack consuls with fanoy

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kot-stargazer 26.06.20

Fan Obsessed
Hey ,here's a link to the resource is forbidden, but even if it was allowed I doubt that would have quickly found, long ago it was.If you are not lazy in the school look for yourself on the third-party server.
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kot-stargazer 26.06.20

Oh, umat...
Found where ence about lip says )))))
Leap does Knockback, not Stun. Stun do (hang on a certain time corresponding to the state) Mind Blast, Shock Wave, Smite, etc. (when you birds fly overhead).
If you are in the condition of the mill, any damage to the character puts it into mode Get Hit (otherwise - hit recovery, GH).
Knockback puts Chara in mode Knockback (KB), during which there is movement. At the end of the option Knockback always occurs mode Get Hit.
In other words, all these different things (Knockback and Get Hit - modes of the unit, Stun state, state) which should not be confused. If not versed in the kitchen, it is better to just say - Leap prevents the opponent to do something, well or something in this spirit.
To say seems to be FHR or able to say of course wrong.
CeTO remembered how I loved to read survival school there are all sorts of mechanics and positions from the sources. direct reading Bible diablomon, Yes there was a time...))))
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minovalo 26.06.20

They Vircom something similar (some of the nonsense written). Only this pokemon loved to poke reversengineering. But the grain of the truths to find it was possible, Yes.

PS: the hashtag I forgot to add.

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kot-stargazer 26.06.20

passed
So I'll say that FERC is ence on the minimum salary, ence sometimes really kicked such distributed that the game that the forum - Mama do not cry. Ban flew all clans)))) phahahah
About hashtag : yeah bro!!!
# Firk i lomaite Enceladus ih [brandy craft] polnostbu!

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Sweety_Mustard 26.06.20

kot-stargazer wrote:
To say seems to be FHR or able to say of course wrong
XS, who is it that wrote, but lip and knockback in FHR drive. You can compare - to put Sorka with a toe and a wolf with 86 FHR animation from Lipa will be different.
Or are you stylistically? )
Well, the Bible rather, Ardan was - that's where the analysis of the level of the candidate.

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T-Fox 26.06.20

kot-stargazer
Enzel just picking on words. Just like FIRC. This too preachy for no reason, though well aware what was going on.
In General, when ppl said that lip varvarovsky stuns, OFC no one has a view of the condition of the mill and that all subsequent attacks will enter in the FHR. Often means just getting the character in the animation FHR. You can consider it as a kind of jargon, colloquial, etc. But with the Enem stuns climenole looks like the old soldered with BUILD.

Leap = kb. kb=fhr. Lip drives the animation fehértó, definitely.

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Sweety_Mustard 26.06.20

T-Fox wrote:
Lip drives the animation fehértó, by far
Thank you for your support, Vladimir Zhirinovsky :DD

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T-Fox 26.06.20

Sweety_Mustard
But it was necessary to clarify that the cat or encel did not deny this fact.

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Immense 26.06.20

Manifold
What is the point of this topic? Will still run and those who prefer to give murder at the mercy of the merc or hewing himself.

PS I wish Aurora to win brought.

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Manifold 26.06.20

Immense
The meaning of the theme - to understand what one is capable of specific numbers and what is the approximate budget of each character.

I don't understand the phrase to run someone more like. Let's say someone set a very specific goal - to find the tiara 30 FRW/3 holes. How to achieve the goal quickly? The answer is gamble. How to farm gold as quickly as possible? While there is no exact answer. If you find that passive barb best of all, for the rapid achievement of goals it is logical to use it, and like to play it or not is another question entirely. If the goal is just to play, then you can run to spoil anyone even on normal. This game becomes boring and meaningless, when not formulated the ultimate goal of all efforts.

Spoilery about Aurora - she recently rescued Anya and prepare for battle with pendlum and nylom.

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Immense 26.06.20

Manifold
Manifold wrote: I don't understand the phrase to run someone more like.
You offered 3 options who run for the gold. Reminded you about the fourth. From this set, and they will choose whom they like best. I did 3 options: Warcry, lip and barb-a werewolf. Liked the lip, not the speed of zaciski or gold in a minute, but just the feelings or as they say rushing.

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bd_sm[TDPG] 26.06.20

Manifold
If you find that passive barb best of all, for the rapid achievement of goals it is logical to use it, and like to play it or not is another question entirely.
Unfortunately, this is the same issue. The psyche is limited resource. If we subject of toxicity and stress without any action, it will end, and the result will not be achieved. The comfort matters.