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Manifold 26.06.20 10:07 am

The best Gold Find character. Crash test by Manifold (Diablo 2)

Continuing the theme

https://forums.playground.ru/diablo_2/voprosy_pro_uron_oruzhiya_kazhdoj_kategorii_i_zavisimost_statov-991972/

in which a discussion about what a character (“Bild” (C)) is the best/efficient/profitable/fastest in goldfind. I've started to throw stones, they say do not go, all have been long tested and everyone knows that Barba is generally no competitors even on the horizon. And that only deer shake BB Barbu strength, not vitality. Some did not hesitate to something to drag my Single Player background, like on PG zhezh consuls nepavyksta and to fight against them more difficult than in SP. In this case, as the arguments were used rollers with strangers, a bunch of that in the video, did 1 race and it was not clear that these Llery can show relatively long distances. As it turned out, theorists NG is complete and the practitioners and experimentalists units (even in game chat I was informed that leap barb > all).

Gentlemen, let us not quarrel and rend the air are uncorroborated statements. Suggest details to the end to understand the topic goldfind and put in disputes point (maybe not fat, but nevertheless).

In this topic, I will try the realities of the servers Rubattle.net to unlock the potential GF of three characters and try to reach the ceiling with each of them, namely: Blizzard Sorka, War Cry/Battle Cry barb, and Whirlwind barb. We compare them on two important indicators – the budget and profit. With a budget of more or less clear, let's see who to put on the cheaper one is more expensive, and someone in the middle. As profitability will use the indicator of the amount of mined gold per minute, which is obtained by dividing the total amount of gold mined at a distance of 5 races, the total time spent on 5 races. Set of 5 runs were chosen because as it turned out, in practice this is exactly the number of runs barb is able to completely fill the chest and pockets, and then with the gold you need something to do :D.

I'll be doing some attempts for 5 races in each, and bring to the table a figure is gold per minute in the form of a range from the worst (a bad set, when the consuls rarely kopali gold) to a record high (a good set, and when the thing fell out a few piles of gold from each Consul). For all characters there will be two versions: the most economical and the most expensive (more on this will be in the description of the character). Please, could some other measure should be taken into account for a more objective comparison.

I think to explain in detail why farm gold is not necessary. The theme beaten and you can easily find all the details. Personally I spend it to gamble rings and circleof/koronatov. When you reach one of the level 95 characters, this list will be added more charms.

So, we go directly to the point. Meet the first miners – Blizzard sorceress level 93 FalenShards, version 1.0.
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Gameplay (characteristic 3 race and demonstration of clothes) below.
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Gear for ver. 1.0 list:
1. Head: coronet 2 sorceress skills/20 fcr 1 Lem rune (50% extra gold);
2. Amulet: magic 2 sorceress skills/77% extra gold;
3. Chest armor: Wealth rune word in Archon Plate (300% extra gold);
4. Weapon: a sword with 6 runes Lem (450% extra gold);
5. Shield: spirit monarch
6. Gloves: Chance Guards (200% extra gold);
7. Rings: 2 dwarf (+200% extra gold);
8. Belt: craft with FCR/72% extra gold;
9. Shoes: yellow with FRW/RES/80% extra gold;
10. Call to Arms +5 battle orders / spirit monarch

Inventory: cube (if you need to lift something acre gold); torch 19/20; gheeds fortune 160% extra gold; 3 Hz 40% eg; Hz 21 cres/39% eg; cold SK/38% eg; 50 mana/36% eg; LTS 8 lres/22% eg; 23 mana/22% eg; 6 SC 10% eg; 2 STS 9% eg; 1 SC 7% eg.
Features: 1951% eg amount; 1579 life (under Bo); 697 mana (under Bo); -42 fres; 55 cres; 19 lres; -15 pres; Ice blast damage 2238-2316; Blizzard damage 4480-4716.

A small review on the gear. It is clear that it is desirable to have gold find on each slot (recall that +extra gold in contrast to the +magic find does not have the so-called diminishing return), but it is not recommended to ignore break the 63% FCR and +skills sorceress on the helmet and amulet. Merc need to equip so that it does not fall off from Hydra, and light bolts, even under escort, the damage he doesn't need because all the killing makes a character. My prayer merc from normal is Insight in eth Thresher'e (just try this aurastar to regen HP, I recommend), Guardian Angel and Kira''s Guardian.

In the video I showed 3 of the race, which was within 1 minute 42.5 seconds (roughly 34 seconds on the race). Produced 851074 gold 283691 average for the race or 400694 gold per minute. Of course, at a relatively long distance numbers will be different: time the race will grow due to the spawn complex consuls (with the convoy or 2 cold imuna) and the need to choose an interesting drop (charmy, etc.). I did 4 sets for 5 races and here is the result: at the time 11.06.2020 PERFOMANS such corki is 266064 to 388034 gold per minute

What can be done to try to improve this value for a particular version: 1. To raise damage at the expense of skylarov with eg, thus reducing the time required for a set of 5 runs; 2. Find circlet 2/20/2, to get an additional +50% eg thereby slightly increase the amount of gold mined in race 3 To improve your gameplay (not blunt, not to misclicking, not to die, not to die merc, etc) and knock off another couple seconds from the average time of the race and 4. To obtain the blessing of the gods Diablo 2, to each dead the Consul Drupal for 3 piles of gold

Budget corki v1.0 I estimated about 0.5 - 1 Lo (depending on the parameter CtA and torch). I'd like to test infinity merc, but this Pb I do not (yet, at least :D). In theory infomerc was expected to reduce the average time of the race, because it can be a a Kotz staticom all the mobs. Well, imun Turk Ispita to remove and quickly kill it (in version 1.0 I leave). Can lend who invic for a while for the sake of experiment? Will give you, not Scam :D

The arena goes barb is level 88 with a straightforward name Gold-Grinder version 3.0 – it is also the most expensive.
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Video perfomance on 462k gold per minute
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Equipment list:
1. Head: the helmet from the Immortal King set with 2 Lem rune (137% extra gold);
2. Amulet: magic 2 warcries/62% extra gold;
3. Chest armor: Wealth rune word in a Dusk Shroud (300% extra gold);
4. Weapon 1: sword 6 Lem runes (450% extra gold);
5. Weapon 2: sword 6 Lem runes (450% extra gold);
6. Gloves: Chance Guards (200% extra gold);
7. Rings: 2 dwarf (+200% extra gold);
8. Belt: rare with lres/80% extra gold;
9. Shoes: yellow with FRW/RES/80% extra gold;
10. Swap: Najs Puzzler (Teleport charges).

Inventory: cube, torch 19/18; gheeds fortune 160% extra gold; 3 Hz 40% eg; Hz 21 cres/39% eg; wc SK/33% eg; 50 mana/36% eg; LTS 8 lres/22% eg; 23 mana/22% eg; 7 SC 10% eg; tp tome (after all 3 of TP act-> VI 4 proved to be faster than running through the docks of act 3, even given some time which is necessary for the replenishment of book 4 tp act).
Features: 2477% eg; slvl 29 Find Item (55% chance); 4055 life (under Bo OFC); 415 mana; 10 fres; cres 39; 63 lres; 31 pres

Now the most important thing is Merk. The name of the Passive Barb speaks for itself: the character doesn't kill anyone, he is a support for the mercenary (gives Bo a/shout, sometimes uses Leap and War Cry), and he in turn does all the dirty work. In this context, for maximum efficiency merc need to put on the dps, not goldfind (Ala Crown of Thieves, Bonehew 2xlem, Wealth). These extra interest extra gold on the measure will not bring a tangible profit in gold, at the same time races will increase significantly due to lack of damage.

So my choice: eth Reapers Toll (ed/ias jewel), eth Archon Plate Fortitude and Guillaume''s Face (ias jewel). Some prefer Kira''s Guardian in the slot for a helmet that Merck does not fall off under escort. I like this variant do not like and why. The fact that the probability of spawn Consul convoy accounted for only 7.2%, that is roughly only 7 of the 100 races the merc will need these additional all resistance with Kira's. Yes it also has Cannot be Frozen, but from my observations the presence of this fashion is not strictly required. At the same time Guillaume''s Face gives very not sickly increase in dps thanks to crushing blow, deadly strike and 15 strength :D that will work in 93 cases out of 100. In my honest observation with a stopwatch that helmet with the horns allows to reduce the time of the race by about 10 seconds! If the Consul spionida konva, I just leave the game and start a new one. The creation of the game, escape to the Board and realising that it's better to leave and start a new race takes about 20 seconds. That is, at a distance of 100 races will have to spend 140 seconds on the reentry, and the presence of Guillaume''s Face will reduce the time spent on those 100 races, as much as 930 seconds. But the choice, of course, for you. Someone does not accept the fact that you have to throw the white flag in front of the mobs. I – bird is not proud, and can give way if it will bring me more profit in the long run.

Made a table. GF Max is the maximum possible % gold find if all the items and charmy was perfect. GF on kill – real % gold find on a character by killing monsters. GF on FI - %gold find when using Find Item (introduced this column, because it will be different for ww Barba). Gear Cost – everything is clear, the budget. Avg run time – average time of one race. Gold per minute – I do not need to explain. Safety is for hsncom, my subjective assessment of the suitability of the character to farm gold on hardcore on a five-point scale.



In conclusion, I would like to thank MAKC D for kindly providing access to his account and acquired by good :D. Thanks for Sora torch 19/20 and кта5 to corki, Fortitude for Barba!

The first message will be updated as they created characters that are specified in the table.

Thank you for your attention!
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minovalo 15.07.20

Manifold
Again, draw in haredcore Yes Pitesti. And vekas softany save.

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Manifold 15.07.20

Obsessed
If you like, and ZIL to run in the grass, to farm gold. But the topic is about how to produce it as efficiently as possible. No +Gold Find on each slot is not enough (good-bye, dungo, the SS, Gaylord, etc.)

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Yeah, I know it will end. The single is not such mobs as PG, in single spawn consuls static and so on... what is? I said that the Berserker top Goldfinger, so to burden me to have proof that it is not necessary
I have long made it clear that the majority is ready only to give advice and make assumptions. Self-experiment people don't want to... even if to stimulate runtime

In total I finished over Barba, with two Oath's, and it surprised me. The average time of the race compared with the Assembly of Dual Grief PB increased only 15%. With a budget of about Vex so barb pulls 316k gold per minute

Video for ww Barba and the final table will add later

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Obsessed 15.07.20

the theme of the
Manifold, in any case, not a PR ZIL as travianer. even runzy.

The average time of the race compared with the Assembly of Dual Grief PB increased only 15%.
2 oath barb walked 2 pb-loggerhead?

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Manifold 15.07.20

Obsessed
No no, just the time the race in 2 Oath increased, so the increased gold/min has dropped. No surprises

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firkax 15.07.20

Manifold wrote:
No no, just the time the race in 2 Oath increased, so the increased gold/min has dropped. No surprises
Slightly offtopic: about 10 years ago has led to this oath agitation, compared take down the barb with oath and other fashion cheap clothes and Barba in the IR set, the second was better by a large margin.

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Manifold 15.07.20

firkax
IK set is good, but the cold damage will not allow to search all the corpses

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T-Fox 15.07.20

firkax
If the total is equal to 2 oatha no worse than one hammer, not talking about what you can wear some demany armor(but in this topic his armor, but let's not about him) and not the IR kit. For example, armor can be charged forti or simple jeweld with HP for the poor (nakoplenii chars from socket armor with HP to charge 150+ ed, no IAS), Bosko and sneakers to crash and deli, peppers with damage to demons, etc.
Plus no one bothers you and the power to pump up to 200, as IR Barbu, which is also a beneficial effect on DMG.

Plus IR beaver that to not bother NADOs cuts liches and other things; that is his armor from small force. That's about it.
It seems to me that you either slegontsa embellish their performance test, or somehow the memory has distorted the data and you remembered something wrong. Because well, can not 2веапона, each with the same DMG as sledgehammers, worse than one with it by a large margin.

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Obsessed 15.07.20

Manifold, Hm, odd I by inertia thought, increased :D I have oath+lawbringer to offer :D

T-Fox, in full IR last fat bonus adds magic dmg, plus FERC generally likes about denisevskie bildi to write here. it is unlikely that the campaign will correct his opinion and will add the desire to play D2. ;-)

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firkax 15.07.20

T-Fox wrote:
It seems to me that you either slegontsa embellish their performance test, or somehow the memory has distorted the data and you remembered something wrong. Because well, can not 2веапона, each with the same DMG as sledgehammers, worse than one with it by a large margin.
There was a summary of that oath-barb was just not capable of anything disabled if you play without straining constantly. What exactly - not out, just remember that the price of to OC (i.e. no funds for forti or vulture) IR Seto no competition if you want it for himself to fight and not to supportit other players or your merc.
Obsessed wrote:
FERC generally likes about denisevskie bildi to write here.
not about the builds, let the builders write, and there is not simulator construction

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T-Fox 15.07.20

firkax
my opinion is that within the honey-IR set sosnet. But to do the bottom of beaver, I even in the single, not particularly eager. Maybe later

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Obsessed 15.07.20

oath-barb was just not capable of anything disabled if the play is not for necro
fixed )

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Manifold 15.07.20

And finally, the third gold digger – Whirldwind barbarian named Krobelus



Barbarian in action:

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A small comment on the video. For 5 runs in Travincal, which was within 5 minutes and 47 seconds assembled 2 713 312 of gold, equivalent to 469160 gold per minute. Average gold per min is ~360k (according to results of 100 runs, 20 sets of 5). The 4th race in the video from 3:25 turned abnormally juicy, fell about 1.2 KK gold

Equipment list:
1. Head: Crown of Thieves with Lem rune (148% extra gold);
2. Amulet: Entropy ranny Heart 1 Barb skills/3% ml/41 mana/lvl 1 Teleport (22 Charges);
3. Chest armor: Wealth rune word in Archon Plate (300% extra gold);
4. Weapon 1: Grief Phase Blade 35/351
5. Weapon 2: Grief Phase Blade 34/356

(wiped away a tear from crapbot both rolls for DMG on the vultures)

6. Gloves: Chance Guards (200% extra gold);
7. Rings: 2 dwarf (+200% extra gold);
8. Zone:ramy Bitter Clasp Spiderweb Sash 28 life/lres 29/80% extra gold;
9. Shoes: ranny with FRW/RES/80% extra gold;
10. Swap: 2xCrystal Sword with runes Lem (+900% extra gold)

Inventory: cube, torch 19/18; gheeds fortune 160% extra gold; Hz 10 max dmg/57 ar/38% eg; Hz 105 ar/40% eg; Hz 2 min dmg/40% eg; wc SK/33% eg; 50 mana/36% eg; Hz 21 cres/39% eg; LTS 8 lres/22% eg; 23 mana/22% eg; 7 SC 10% eg/res (or ar or max dmg/ar); tp tome.

In this build, I got 212 strength, agility, 187, 220 vitality (Hello followers “page under the gear, rest Vita” of the bunch). 2450 life and 525 mana after Bo. With these figures you can quite safely remove the consuls and not to be killed. For HC, of course, the more lives the better

Merc requires three things: 1 - as fast as possible to hang Decrepify; 2 – not to die from Hydra, even under convoy; 3 – have low damage so as not to crack cold dmg'om bodies. This predetermines the choice of equipment is: plain (no essential) Reapers Toll with possible low Enhanced Damage roll + Shael rune; helmet eth Kira's Guardian with jewel 15 ias; armor eth Guardian Angel with a Ral rune.

When replacing 2 Grief's Oath's in Balrog Blade profit dramatically changes. Yes, the average time of the race increases from 73 to 83 seconds, leading to a drop in exhaust from 360k to 316k gold per minute. So if the budget is strictly limited, I recommend to use Whirlwind Barba, not budget Passive (Leap+WC).

Summary table with numbers
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Infiniti for a test near sorki v.2 me so no one has suggested that, in principle, it was expected :D. So I removed the Assembly from the table.

What is the conclusion? If you do not want to spend much on a Goldfind character, I suggest you look to Blizzard Sorka or Dual Oath to a Whirlwind barb. Both will practice each subfolder in them the rune and bring about 360k gold per minute. If you play on hardcore, then only Passive barb, or if the priority is maximum efficiency – the same Passive barb with merc, dressed in eReaper, eFortitude and Guillaume''s Face (Kira''s Guardian), will bring the average 409k gold per minute.

Updated the first message. Experiment declare complete

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Dmitriy Zhigunov 15.07.20

Another possible variant HC Berserker barb with stormshield.

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Sweety_Mustard 15.07.20

Recently at the grocery store standing in the queue in front of me IR FIRC merchandised, his Golda on Sigi was not enough - had to wait until the line rolls back :C

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Obsessed 15.07.20

Sweety_Mustard, it was necessary to hold among the 2 Oath-agitation. ;-)

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Dmitriy Zhigunov 15.07.20

Well INCHEM IR set is not bad I think, specifically VV beaver with IR. But without encha and/or angelic combo Pocono proven third-party resource...

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minovalo 15.07.20

Touchend / IC is deleted. Especially with krapo-IR.

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Obsessed 15.07.20

Dmitriy Zhigunov has passed, how dare you doubt trudnosti gaming experience Simple Player #1 ???